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Some time ago JS woundered why we view the center of the earth is not
represented by force vectors pushing OUT ie the equal and opposite reaction with respect to gravity. This is a very insightful comment. In fact the earth's ferrite mass center is represented by the magnetic poles but because of the diagmagnetic content of the earth which produces a weak magnetic field at right angles to a ferrite field we have two magnetic axis at a distance from each other in our earth and not just one.Thus somewhere, in between these two pole structures, we have a point of equilibrium where the vector forces emminate from this point in a outward direction. It is the position of the diagmatic pole that provides the "curl" effect as seen when studying the radiator vector format which is also responsible for the earth turning and the circular rotation of a pendulum to which a radiator is often compared.. ( By another name I believe this also describes the Corriolis effect) One can stretch their minds and ponder on the effect of this diamagnetic pole tho weak would have on a compass on opposite sides of the earth, such as the Bermuda triangle and the area on the other side of the earth but of to the side where Amelia Erhardt altered her course for a unknown reason and disappeared. Regards Art |
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On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:47:59 -0800 (PST), art
wrote: One can stretch their minds and ponder on the effect of this diamagnetic pole tho weak would have on a compass on opposite sides of the earth, such as the Bermuda triangle and the area on the other side of the earth but of to the side where Amelia Erhardt altered her course for a unknown reason and disappeared. She dissappeared over the Perth Australia? I think if she looked out the window, she would've figured out she wasn't lost at sea in the mid Pacific. She could've probably hailed a cab using your navigational skills. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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On 3 Jan, 10:51, Richard Clark wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:47:59 -0800 (PST), art wrote: One can stretch their minds and ponder on the effect of this diamagnetic pole tho weak would have on a compass on opposite sides of the earth, such as the Bermuda triangle and the area on the other side of the earth but of to the side where Amelia Erhardt altered her course for a unknown reason and disappeared. She dissappeared over the Perth Australia? *I think if she looked out the window, she would've figured out she wasn't lost at sea in the mid Pacific. *She could've probably hailed a cab using your navigational skills. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC Again, no technical statements coming from your mouth only taunts. Just shows what sort of individual you are, always taking a poke at people with none having technical content. I am beginning to think of you as a small person in stature with a big chip on your shoulder and a slobbering mouth. |
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On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:35:56 -0800 (PST), art
wrote: One can stretch their minds and ponder on the effect of this diamagnetic pole tho weak would have on a compass on opposite sides of the earth, such as the Bermuda triangle and the area on the other side of the earth but of to the side where Amelia Erhardt altered her course for a unknown reason and disappeared. She dissappeared over the Perth Australia? *I think if she looked out the window, she would've figured out she wasn't lost at sea in the mid Pacific. *She could've probably hailed a cab using your navigational skills. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC Again, no technical statements Oh most celebrated Prior Art, sir of infinite wisdom, You write about geography and vectors. The compass uses magnetism where you have curled the North Pole into Bermuda. The complex conjugate coordinates of Bermuda locate Perth Australia. You have place Amelia at the conjugate North Pole by your navigational skills [sic]. It stands to reason that modest cab fare would have gotten her to town to allow her to announce she wasn't lost. Vectors prove this and Gauss' law was used! OH! I get it. You don't understand the technical part of "other side of the earth" and complex conjugate. You only have a degree in Spanner Engineering, not English, so your affliction is noted. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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On Jan 4, 3:51 am, Richard Clark wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:47:59 -0800 (PST), art wrote: One can stretch their minds and ponder on the effect of this diamagnetic pole tho weak would have on a compass on opposite sides of the earth, such as the Bermuda triangle and the area on the other side of the earth but of to the side where Amelia Erhardt altered her course for a unknown reason and disappeared. She dissappeared over the Perth Australia? I think if she looked out the window, she would've figured out she wasn't lost at sea in the mid Pacific. She could've probably hailed a cab using your navigational skills. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC She is believed to have gone down around 150 miles from Howland Island in the Pacific, considering that is around 100 miles from the equator I would say Art is pretty much on the money. Derek |
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On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:57:55 -0800 (PST), Derek
wrote: On Jan 4, 3:51 am, Richard Clark wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:47:59 -0800 (PST), art wrote: One can stretch their minds and ponder on the effect of this diamagnetic pole tho weak would have on a compass on opposite sides of the earth, such as the Bermuda triangle and the area on the other side of the earth but of to the side where Amelia Erhardt altered her course for a unknown reason and disappeared. She dissappeared over the Perth Australia? I think if she looked out the window, she would've figured out she wasn't lost at sea in the mid Pacific. She could've probably hailed a cab using your navigational skills. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC She is believed to have gone down around 150 miles from Howland Island in the Pacific, considering that is around 100 miles from the equator I would say Art is pretty much on the money. Bermuda (or even the Bermuda triangle) are both 3000 to 4000 kM from the equator. The "other side of the earth" doesn't even come close to Howland Island OR the Pacific! How much money would you put down? Better yet, would you fly with Art as navigator with his level of accurate map reading? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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On Jan 4, 8:07 am, Richard Clark wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:57:55 -0800 (PST), Derek wrote: On Jan 4, 3:51 am, Richard Clark wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:47:59 -0800 (PST), art wrote: One can stretch their minds and ponder on the effect of this diamagnetic pole tho weak would have on a compass on opposite sides of the earth, such as the Bermuda triangle and the area on the other side of the earth but of to the side where Amelia Erhardt altered her course for a unknown reason and disappeared. She dissappeared over the Perth Australia? I think if she looked out the window, she would've figured out she wasn't lost at sea in the mid Pacific. She could've probably hailed a cab using your navigational skills. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC She is believed to have gone down around 150 miles from Howland Island in the Pacific, considering that is around 100 miles from the equator I would say Art is pretty much on the money. Bermuda (or even the Bermuda triangle) are both 3000 to 4000 kM from the equator. The "other side of the earth" doesn't even come close to Howland Island OR the Pacific! How much money would you put down? Better yet, would you fly with Art as navigator with his level of accurate map reading? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC But it is midway between the pole's on the other side of the globe, which is more to the point of Art"s observation than your nit picking. Derek |
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On 3 Jan, 15:57, Derek wrote:
On Jan 4, 8:07 am, Richard Clark wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:57:55 -0800 (PST), Derek wrote: On Jan 4, 3:51 am, Richard Clark wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:47:59 -0800 (PST), art wrote: One can stretch their minds and ponder on the effect of this diamagnetic pole tho weak would have on a compass on opposite sides of the earth, such as the Bermuda triangle and the area on the other side of the earth but of to the side where Amelia Erhardt altered her course for a unknown reason and disappeared. She dissappeared over the Perth Australia? *I think if she looked out the window, she would've figured out she wasn't lost at sea in the mid Pacific. *She could've probably hailed a cab using your navigational skills. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC She is believed to have gone down around 150 miles from Howland Island in the Pacific, considering that is around 100 miles from the equator I would say Art is pretty much on the money. Bermuda (or even the Bermuda triangle) are both 3000 to 4000 kM from the equator. *The "other side of the earth" doesn't even come close to Howland Island OR the Pacific! How much money would you put down? *Better yet, would you fly with Art as navigator with his level of accurate map reading? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC * * *But it is midway between the pole's on the other side of the globe, which is more to the point of Art"s observation than your nit picking. *Derek- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Derek, there are half a dozen more poles in our earth. Non ofcourse are as strong as the ferrite pole but none pass thru the geometric center of the earth so none can be exactly aligned on the opposite side of the center point. These poles being made of natural diamagnetic material will have their lengths closest to the surface. All of course are weak but all are weighted by the inverse square law. and aligned at right angles to the ferrite pole ( north and south)So at certain points on the surface of this earth all have a sweet spot for maximum impact on a small piece of ferrite metal shimmering tho balanced on a tiny pin when held in the hand.Don't take any notice of Richard he was a swabby for most of his time and never got the chance to look out the front of the ship.The bottom line is that he leaves nothing for you to ponder on so why converse with him? Os an aside Derek the majority of the earth's surface is covered by water which is diamagnetic. Both of the areas that I pointed to lie in a vaste area of water. I am not saying that compases malfunction in any way but there are many aircrafts that have dissapeared in these areas without trace. Makes you think doesn't it. Regards Art Unwin KB9MZ....XG (uk) |
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On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:57:08 -0800 (PST), Derek
wrote: But it is midway between the pole's on the other side of the globe, which is more to the point of Art"s observation than your nit picking. Howland Island is near dead on the Equator, Bermuda is not even close. Howland Island is near dead on the international date line, Bermuda is nowhere near the Prime Meridian (opposite side). The opposite side of the Earth for Howland Island would be south of the Ivory Coast in Central-West Africa! I have sailed in the Bermuda triangle many times (to no shocking results) and Bermuda is three times closer to Boston than Quito Ecuador which is midway between the poles. Bermuda is also on 65 degrees West longitude, 180 degrees away (or 115 degrees East longitude) is the Indian Ocean, not the Pacific (and I've been to both oceans too, crossing the full Pacific twice before I was 8 years old). If nit picking amounts to a difference of 8000 kilometers, you must have your money on one hell of a spread. This doesn't bode well for Art's magnetic compass correction factors. Even Gauss could tell the difference between the Indian Ocean and the Pacific Ocean (and he would have looked at a globe first before uttering this foolishness). After all, this is really very simple stuff, but I guess you have to have been there to appreciate these nit picking issues. As for diamagnetic curls of the magnetic field, if no one responded to this baloney, Art's ideas would die miserable solitary lives. Laughing at them is about the best currency exchange he can hope for. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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In article
, art wrote: In fact the earth's ferrite mass center is represented by the magnetic poles snip "Ferrite mass center?" What are you talking about? Did you mean "ferrous?" Ferrites have high electrical resistivity, not a property that's usually associated with the hypothetical process(es) that gives rise to the geomagnetic field. Sincerely, and 73s, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 |
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