On 12 Jan, 13:01, "AI4QJ" wrote:
"art" wrote in message

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Gentlemen and Radio hams

Comment #1: When you say radio hams remember that in the US the "ham" is
neither professional nor an occupation. In fact, it is considered bad form
for you to be discussing and attempting to gain information to enhance your
commercial 'invention' if indeed you are applying for a commercial patent on
your idea. You should define a clear separation between your amateur and
commercial activities and this is something that frankly has been bothering
me.



I had no idea that standing and travelling waves was reserved for post
doctorial studies in America, where offshore it is considered as an
early part of the education curriculum.

Whomever said it was not taught here as an early part of the curriculum? I
honestly think that you have an improper understanding of the standing wave
and its equations.

There are also physicists,
consultants, sailors,naval instructors, NASA Reps cb ers and lecturers
on this group argueing vehemently over the subject as if it is the
cusp of modern day research.

Not really. We are discussing it as it relates to amateur radio antennas
(that actually work). We are correcting each other as to how its
measurements affect, for example, the phase delay in a coil of a bug-catcher
antenna. We are far too low on the technical food to emulate you and relate
to such grandiose ideas as solving the unified field theory or trying to
explain the economics of global outsourcing where Bill Gates and others can
hire 10 times the "engineers" at 1/2 the cost. Bill will get plenty of US
technical labor at that point in time when americans are forced to accept
the reality that they must accept pauper wages or do not work at all. This
has NOTHING to do about differences in education. In fact, you will see many
Indian students at your beloved MIT who are forced to repatriate to hteir
home countries (although for me, I happen to find that going "home" in
Wisconsin is a nice thing, not a bad thing) after receiving their diplomas..
Bill Gates and IBM simply want them back and they will willingly return,
given the chance at a green card or H1B visa, since receiving 30K per year
in the US is far better than reciving 4K per year in India.

This has othing to do with a "hobby" or a "radio service" intended for use
by "amateurs" who are paid nothing at all.

Each discipline *having the benefit of
being educated in such in a manner suitable for the class content.
Considering the heated debate on mathematics on its misuse by a doctor
working on space research at MIT I really should not be that
surprised. It would appear that there is not a true foreign professor
around to consult or to request some teachings from so this debate of
several years could have closure. Reminds me of the 'O' ring debate in
America where it was discovered for the first time in the western
hemisphere that butile O rings had a low tensile strength, this found
over some one's dead body. We desperately need more Indian techs to
settle over here to help us out, and possibly one to join the group,
instead of marvelling on the side lines at the goings on regarding the
pursuit of knoweledge about radiation.

Upon reading this, my first question was 'what do O rings designed by
American or Indian engineers have to do with ham radio?', Suddenly I
realized that it involved the levitation of diagmagnetc O ring material
where perhaps current might travel through the center ;-) Perhaps you could
contact NASA, as a professional activity, and set them straight as to what
to do. Just give them a clue; then they can hire their 30K/year Indian
engineers to complete the solution.

We have more than 500 permanent Indian and Asian technicians in my
town hired by State Farm in a desperate effort to

....save millions of dollars in engineering labor/burden costs and improve
the bottom line, forcing other companies to do the same to remain
competitive.

Our hospitals would just rot if were
were not aided by the educated from the emerging countries who are

...applying methods and principles provided by US universties so emerging
3rd world countries can provide labor at 1/10 the cost of EU and US
professionals in the same field.

Caterpillar went to Northern England to
staff their metal pattern shops.

...at approximate 60% of the cost of hiring American workers. I know the
drill. I used to work for IBM who went to Ireland and Scotland to do the
same thing.

As for the rest they generated the
'Rust Belt' regions by

....having to compete with Japanese steel companies who forced them out of
business by dumping subsidized steel products on American shores without any
possibility of fair competition.

just one that can inform the group about standing and travelling
waves!

Frankly I believe that order would be too tall for you. I really don't think
you understand the equations but any mechancial engineer would have been
taught this phenomenon early in his curriculum. What happened? Did you
forget? Has it been too many years? Did nature in her cruelty decide to file
that information so far back in your memory banks that there is no hope for
a simple recovery of said information?

Gentlemen and radio hams, you can join the group without
leaving your countries to show of your education on this newsgroup.
They need help over here.....desperately.

Thus ends my participation in this troll thread.

AI4QJ

I am just a member of the WORLD wide web who has been viewing this
discussions of many thousands maybe tens of thousands of postings over
more than a decade. I am not sure if it is all a case of hitting Cecil
or that you cannot compete with his knoweledge. As for me I have also
been attacked for more than a dozen years because it is felt that my
ideas are all baloney. I share every thing I do with respect to ham
radio. I write up patents as a record of my work. How can I possibly
make money on my ideas when every body derides them as baloney without
providing a basis?
State Farm states that the talent is just not out there when the
subject comes up.
GE many years ago decided to get into the literal money side of
business and cut back on manufacturing e.t.c.Loads of engineers laid
off. About 80 at my plant went out the door leaving only six of us
engineers left.
If State Farm is correct then our teaching institutions are taking
money from students on the guise that a golden pot awaits. They
quickly find they have debts and nowhere to go.
As for hams on this newsgroup they costantly remind me of their former
employment to give credability to their statements when trying to down
size me.If you feel I am taking improper advantage of ham radio on a
commercial scale then talk to the FCC and also mention Roy by the way.
My ideas on waves may be way off but I am not really interested in
talking about them and probably have nothing to offer. When all of
this group challenged a well educated person on the validity of adding
a time varient to Gaussian law so it equates to Maxwells laws I was
shocked. That this group would fall over themselves denying the
validity of the math expressed
changed me immensily as does this savaging of the question of standing
waves.You don't have to make excuses to me why the standing wave can't
be resolved as with the mathematics supplied from that member of MIT,
This is viewed WORLD WIDE and those viewers are not stupid.
I know that my new antenna aproach is correct. You know that all that
is new will be rejected.
So when it becomes recognised and sort for by offshore companies
should I refuse them as an american when science outside of the
academic circle is berated? I have shared everything and I mean
everything, about by work with radio hams in the hope of bettering the
hobby. To reject is their choice especially when you intimate that it
doesn't work without reason. When this group requested a computor set
up so a member could check it out on his own program. Yes, the data
proved my work but what the hell, this group wanted to fight! Well I
am still here even tho my country rejects the science supplied. So you
can get back to your waves thread and continue to tell all of them
where you are correct while everybody else is wrong. As David
intimated the subject is good for quite a while yet, at least while
Cecil is still alive. But unlike Cecil who lets insults slide by I
think it is well past time to send some insults back
which those who insult consider shocking. I am very pleased that you
have decided not to pursue this thread because the actions of the
group speaks for themselves to the World
Changes need to be made in America, but without acceptance from
american employers and the complacence of the population the future
looks dire.As for me I have made my pile and feel good
Art,