And what is "THIS"?
____________

Rewritten to clarify for "art"

Are you saying that coupling from your 160-m, gaussian, compact, full-wave,
tank circuit, tilted antenna in equilibrium into randomly located conductors
near the transmit antenna is the basis for increased gain from that antenna?

Such random couplings ARE the reason for the increased signals you mentioned
in your earlier statement, "You see this effect in a mobile when the audio
increases as you drive by power lines and the like," and it appears you are
claiming that effect to explain the performance of your 160-m, gaussian,
etc, etc antenna in equilibrium.

Please explain.

RF

On 18 Jan, 09:16, "Richard Fry" wrote:
And what is "THIS"?

____________

Rewritten to clarify for "art"

Are you saying that coupling from your 160-m, gaussian, compact, full-wave,
tank circuit, tilted antenna in equilibrium into randomly located conductors
near the transmit antenna is the basis for increased gain from that antenna?

Such random couplings ARE the reason for the increased signals you mentioned
in your earlier statement, "You see this effect in a mobile when the audio
increases as you drive by power lines and the like," and it appears you are
claiming that effect to explain the performance of your 160-m, gaussian,
etc, etc antenna in equilibrium.

Please explain.

RF

No.I do not carry telephone poles on my vehical.What strange thinking

"art" wrote:
No.I do not carry telephone poles on my vehical.
________

But aren't you claiming the effects you noted for a mobile antenna near
other conductors for your 160-m, time-variant Gaussian, diamagnetic,
cosmic-particle-levitating, compact, full-wave, tank circuit, tilted antenna
in equilibrium that you have described as installed on top of a short tower
in your back yard?

BTW, do you have means to change the tilt of your antenna when you want to
get best coverage in various different directions?

RF

On 18 Jan, 10:18, "Richard Fry" wrote:
"art" wrote:
No.I do not carry telephone poles on my vehical.

________

But aren't you claiming the effects you noted for a mobile antenna near
other conductors for your 160-m, time-variant Gaussian, diamagnetic,
cosmic-particle-levitating, compact, full-wave, tank circuit, tilted antenna
in equilibrium that you have described as installed on top of a short tower
in your back yard?

BTW, do you have means to change the tilt of your antenna when you want to
get best coverage in various different directions?

RF

No. I have a radio in my Mercedes and I can tune to the local radio
stations for the music.
Yes I have a a motor like the ones used on dishes.I put in on just as
the snow started to fly
and in my haste altered the antenna some what. In the spring I will
correct that plus wire up
the rotator and tilt mechanism. Why all the questions? As one of the
adjudicators on this group
that determine all that is correct and all that is not you have
identified all that I do as a failure so why the pursuit?

"art" wrote
... Why all the questions? As one of the adjudicators on this group
that determine all that is correct and all that is not you have
identified all that I do as a failure so why the pursuit?
________

To give you, and others in your camp the chance to recognize how your
unsupported/unproven beliefs appear to those having specific education and
knowledge based on the proven results of many decades of antenna design, and
the many decades of proven, practical experience with such designs.

RF

On Jan 19, 8:39 am, "Richard Fry" wrote:
"art" wrote ... Why all the questions? As one of the adjudicators on this group
that determine all that is correct and all that is not you have
identified all that I do as a failure so why the pursuit?

________

To give you, and others in your camp the chance to recognize how your
unsupported/unproven beliefs appear to those having specific education and
knowledge based on the proven results of many decades of antenna design, and
the many decades of proven, practical experience with such designs.

RF

Hi Richard

Are we to take it you regard Art's claim's for his 160m antenna
to be a fraud?

Derek

On Jan 19, 8:39 am, "Richard Fry" wrote:


To give you, and others in your camp the chance to recognize how your
unsupported/unproven beliefs appear to those having specific education and
knowledge based on the proven results of many decades of antenna design, and
the many decades of proven, practical experience with such designs.

RF

All experience based on yesterdays knowledge which does not allow for
new discoveries, because you are an expert and there is nothing for
you to learn that you do not know already.
Some expert!

Derek

"Derek" wrote:

Are we to take it you regard Art's claim's for his 160m antenna
to be a fraud?

So far neither the performance of Art's 160-m antenna, nor the claims he
makes for its underlying physics have been publicly proven by scientific
methods.

All experience based on yesterdays knowledge which does
not allow for new discoveries, because you are an expert
and there is nothing for you to learn that you do not know already.

Not at all. Discoveries continue to be made in the sciences. And when they
are, they are supported by natural law, are thoroughly documented and
presented in such a context, and those discoveries and their results can be
replicated by others.

If Art could followed that course he would get a better response to his
concepts, if he still chose to present them.

RF