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On Jan 27, 10:26*am, Cecil Moore wrote:
Keith Dysart wrote: When the generator is matched to the line so that the reflected wave does not encounter an impedance discontinuity when it arrives back at the generator (and therefore is not reflected), ... On the contrary, it is redistributed back toward the load in the process of destructive interference and becomes constructive interference associated with the forward wave. Whether you call that a reflection or not, the fact that the forward power equals the source power plus the reflected power tells us that reflected power being dissipated in the source would violate the conservation of energy principle. Unfortunately, this is quite wrong. And I continue to be surprised that you argue that there is a reflection where there is not an impedance discontinuity. Some parts of the rest of your post are correct by coincidence, but since the underlying premise of reflections where there is no discontinuity is incorrect, I have snipped it. But this debate has been had before. You do not want to understand how the output impedance of a generator affects a returning signal. I have offerred references and you have refused to look. I have offerred spice simulations, and you have refused to look. When the discussion moves to simpler generators so that the behaviour can be studied, you will declare them uninteresting because they do not represent "real ham transmitters". You will make jokes about 10 cent resistors, not realizing that is how real test equipment prevents re-reflection. (How well would a TDR work, if any substantial amount of the return was reflected?) When you decide that you do not want to argue that reflections occur where there is no impedance discontinuity, and are willing to study output immpedance, the learning can begin. ...Keith |
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