Thank you.
I was hoping toward CB. I am going to add a CB radio to my boat. I already
have a VHF radio.

I have a SWR meter. Will the length of the coax have an effect on the
tuning? I would like to have a run from the top of the flybridge to cabin of
perhaps around 20 feet.

"David G. Nagel" wrote in message
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Scott;

What you have there is a CB antenna. You can tell from the loading coil
at the top of the stick. A VHF marine antenna will not have any coils as
the 48" length is sufficent for a half wave vertical dipole.

Dave WD9BDZ

Scott Downey wrote:
I have a white fiberglass top loaded antenna that is 48 inches long.

At the bottom of the antenna where the metal part screws onto the L
bracket
aluminum mounting base is imprinted 'wondershaft'.

It is toploaded because the top 15 inches is thicker and I assume there
is a
coil of wire under the white fiberglass covering.
It uses a Pl259 coax connector mount on the base for the coax cable.

Does anyone know if this is a marine CB antenna or would it be a marine
VHF
antenna or how to tell the difference?
Thanks for any info.

Scott Downey wrote:
I have a SWR meter. Will the length of the coax have an effect on the
tuning? I would like to have a run from the top of the flybridge to cabin of
perhaps around 20 feet.

Is the (metal?) flybridge your ground plane?
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The boat is mostly wood and fiberglass, only metal is railings.


"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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Scott Downey wrote:
I have a SWR meter. Will the length of the coax have an effect on the
tuning? I would like to have a run from the top of the flybridge to
cabin of
perhaps around 20 feet.

Is the (metal?) flybridge your ground plane?
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Scott Downey wrote:
The boat is mostly wood and fiberglass, only metal is railings.

To what is the coax shield going to be tied? If that antenna is
an electrical 1/4 wavelength, where's the ground plane?
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Are you saying it wont work?
Why would the manufacturer make a marine CB antenna knowing it would be put
on a fiberglass boat knowing that most people would simply hook up the coax
and see it it works.
I read in the marine catalogs about marine CB antennas designed for boats
and not to be concerned about a ground plane.
Anyone know the answer?


"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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Scott Downey wrote:
The boat is mostly wood and fiberglass, only metal is railings.

To what is the coax shield going to be tied? If that antenna is
an electrical 1/4 wavelength, where's the ground plane?
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I found this

"I agree with the other posts. The length of cable is not an issue and your
problem is a lack of a good groundplane. I suggest that you try a CB marine
antenna. These antennas are design to operator without a groundplane.
However, they are probably not design to handle high power. Looking at
shakespears webpage it looks like there antennas are limited to 25 watts
max. Well with in the range of a legal CB radio."

http://www.shakespeare-marine.com/index.html

what a long link

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...N%26 tab%3Dwg


"Scott Downey" wrote in message
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Are you saying it wont work?
Why would the manufacturer make a marine CB antenna knowing it would be
put
on a fiberglass boat knowing that most people would simply hook up the
coax
and see it it works.
I read in the marine catalogs about marine CB antennas designed for boats
and not to be concerned about a ground plane.
Anyone know the answer?


"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Scott Downey wrote:
The boat is mostly wood and fiberglass, only metal is railings.

To what is the coax shield going to be tied? If that antenna is
an electrical 1/4 wavelength, where's the ground plane?
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 15:35:24 -0500, "Scott Downey"
wrote:
I read in the marine catalogs about marine CB antennas designed for boats
and not to be concerned about a ground plane.
Anyone know the answer?

Hi Scott,

It could be a half-wave antenna (or jimmied to look like one) and it
counts on the cable feed to act as the minimal counterpoise to work
against.

OR

It could be outright baloney about not needing a ground plane.
CB does not have the reputation for marketing to the savvy.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Scott Downey wrote:

Are you saying it wont work?
Why would the manufacturer make a marine CB antenna knowing it would be put
on a fiberglass boat knowing that most people would simply hook up the coax
and see it it works.
I read in the marine catalogs about marine CB antennas designed for boats
and not to be concerned about a ground plane.
Anyone know the answer?

I said "if it is a 1/4WL antenna..." If it is a 1/2WL antenna, it will work
without a ground plane. Does it have a coax connector on it? If so, what is
the outside of the connector tied to?

"Cecil Moore" wrote:
To what is the coax shield going to be tied? If that antenna is
an electrical 1/4 wavelength, where's the ground plane?
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Yes, it has a pl 259 coax connector on the antenna and it did not come with
any cable.

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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Scott Downey wrote:

Are you saying it wont work?
Why would the manufacturer make a marine CB antenna knowing it would be
put
on a fiberglass boat knowing that most people would simply hook up the
coax
and see it it works.
I read in the marine catalogs about marine CB antennas designed for
boats
and not to be concerned about a ground plane.
Anyone know the answer?

I said "if it is a 1/4WL antenna..." If it is a 1/2WL antenna, it will
work
without a ground plane. Does it have a coax connector on it? If so, what
is
the outside of the connector tied to?

"Cecil Moore" wrote:
To what is the coax shield going to be tied? If that antenna is
an electrical 1/4 wavelength, where's the ground plane?
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Cecil is not fallowing along. I have an antenna just like yours and it is
designed to work without a ground plane. It is designed for boats.
"Scott Downey" wrote in message
...
Are you saying it wont work?
Why would the manufacturer make a marine CB antenna knowing it would be
put
on a fiberglass boat knowing that most people would simply hook up the
coax
and see it it works.
I read in the marine catalogs about marine CB antennas designed for boats
and not to be concerned about a ground plane.
Anyone know the answer?


"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Scott Downey wrote:
The boat is mostly wood and fiberglass, only metal is railings.

To what is the coax shield going to be tied? If that antenna is
an electrical 1/4 wavelength, where's the ground plane?
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