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I would like to add a caviate to assigning a series circuit which I
did
to follow convention for fractional WL. If I had a lab it would be
easy to prove whether the distributed capacitance
and the distributed inductance are themselves in parallel within the
radiating member instead of in series
such that the energy retention qualities are kept. And possibly this
circulatory arrangement will supply some connection to the swerling
eddy currents upon the surface. However I will keep to convention
until the corresponding evidence comes in. Got to get the DC
resistance of a radiator involved to resolve that one.
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On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:02:54 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

I would like to add a caviate to assigning a series circuit which I
did
to follow convention for fractional WL. If I had a lab it would be
easy to prove whether the distributed capacitance
and the distributed inductance are themselves in parallel within the
radiating member instead of in series
such that the energy retention qualities are kept. And possibly this
circulatory arrangement will supply some connection to the swerling
eddy currents upon the surface. However I will keep to convention
until the corresponding evidence comes in. Got to get the DC
resistance of a radiator involved to resolve that one.
Unwinantennas.com/


You are offering DC antennas?
How do you match them?
Are you sure, your cables and connectors don't leak and spill
direct current to the environment?

w.
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Art Unwin wrote:
I would like to add a caviate to assigning...


caviate

Latin

1. Second-person plural present subjunctive of cavare.


Dave K8MN
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Dave Heil wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
I would like to add a caviate to assigning...


caviate

Latin

1. Second-person plural present subjunctive of cavare.


Dave K8MN


Here are a few definitions for you of "caveat", from this URL
"http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Acaveat&btnG=Search"

# caution: a warning against certain acts; "a caveat against unfair
practices"

# (law) a formal notice filed with a court or officer to suspend a
proceeding until filer is given a hearing; "a caveat filed against the
probate of a will"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

# Caveat (foaled 1980 in Maryland) was an American thoroughbred stallion
racehorse. Bred by Ryehill Farm, he was sired by Kentucky Derby winner
Cannonade out of the The Axe mare, Cold Hearted.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveat (horse)

# a warning; a qualification or exemption; a notice requesting a
postponement of a court proceedings
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/caveat

# If a caveat is lodged upon a title to land it indicates that another
party other than the owner claims some right over or interest in the
property.
www.aussie.com.au/Glossary.htm

# Is a document any person with a legal interest in a property can lodge
with the Titles Office to ensure the property is not sold without their
knowledge
http://www.malenyrealty.com.au/resou...cal_terms.html

# A note placed on the register in the Land Titles Office at the
instigation of a person who claims a certain interest in the land. In
BC, a caveat remains in force for only 2 months, then lapses.
www.propertytours.ca/realty/glossary.htm

# A warning; a note of caution.
www.id.uscourts.gov/terms-cd.htm

# "Beware" – if a caveat is lodged on a title to land, it warns a person
buying the property that a third party (party which lodged the caveat)
has some right or interest in the property.
www.efame.com.au/glossary.htm

# A warning on a title to a purchaser that a third party might have some
interest or right in the property.
http://www.reinz.org.nz/reinz/public...erminology.cfm

# A formal notice, that asks a court to suspend action until the party
which filed the challenge can be heard.
http://www.boise-idahos-real-estate....ons-c-158.html

# a formal notice given by someone to prevent the proving of a Will or
the grant of administration of an Estate.
www.oceancountygov.com/surrogat/glossary.htm

# means a document lodged with the Recorder of Titles by a person
authorised to do so forbidding the recording of any dealing on the title
subject to the caveat Literally means beware. In real estate, it warns
persons (prospective purchasers, mortgagees, etc. ...
http://www.cromer-partners.com.au/pa...ssaryalpha.php

# A notice of warning given to a public authority, eg Titles Office,
claiming entitlement to an interest in certain land. The caveat is
registered and remains on the books as a warning to anyone who
contemplates dealing with the property. ...
http://www.redearthfinance.com.au/bw...e/followon.asp

# A notice on title proclaiming a possible interest other than that of
an owner.
www.talkproperty.net.au/index.php

# A notice given to a legal authority not to do something until the
person giving notice can be heard.
www.recalgary.com/information/glossary_c.htm

# A legal notice by a person having a (caveatable) interest in the
property which will prevent transfer in title until the claim has been
determined.
www.eastcoastconveyancing.com.au/glossary.htm

# Latin for "beware". Usually it is in the form of a contract clause
that stipulates a particular requirement.
www.yourfinancechoice.com/index.php

# If an creditor of the estate of a decedent is apprehensive that an
estate, wither testate or intestate, will be administered without the
creditor's knowledge, or if any person other than a creditor is
apprehensive that an estate may be administered, or that a will may be
admitted to probate ...
pages.jbiproperties.com/ezrealestateoptions/glossaryofterms.html

# a formal notice or warning against certain actions being taken by a
court; most often seen in regard to the granting of probate of a will by
the court; most common usage as a document that is filed in the Land
Titles Office to warn of possible title defects;
www.manitobacourts.mb.ca/definitions.html

# A notice not to do something until the person caveating has been
heard. It is often seen in the case of land claims, where a caveator
might object to a claim overlapping his own. ...
www.genfiles.com/legal/legalterms.htm

# Latin for “beware”. This often applies to a contract clause
www.interestrate.com.au/glossary.asp

# This indicates the rights or interests of a third party in the
property. A caveat is a legal document which, when lodged in the Land
Registry Office, gives the caveator the opportunity of protecting an
existing right or of establishing an existing claim in property. ...
www.virtualrealty.co.nz/reterms.html

# If you don't pay your fees, you may find one of these registered
against your title. This ensures the corporation gets its money before
you dispose of the asset and may be the basis for collection procedures.
http://www.calgaryselect.com/Housing...0/Default.aspx

Quite interesting, the fact you were being "fooled" into thinking there
was but one! grin

Regards,
JS
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Art wrote:
"If I had a lab it would be easy to prove whether the distributed
capacitance and distributed inductance are themselves in parallel within
the radiating member instead of in series such that the energy retention
qualies are kept."

J.C. Maxwell, also an Englishman, had no lab.

Radiation is the function of a radio antenna. Kept energy is not so
important.

Recall that Maxwell`s great speculation was that displacement currents
generated a magnetic field the same as conductive currents. Later, this
was proved beyond doubt. It is a radiation requirement as no conductors
inhabit empty space.

My edition of the "ARRL Antenna Book" is the 20th, which means its
contents have been refined and tested over many years. It says on page
2-6:
"Now we just compared the antenna to a series-tuned circuit. Near its
half-wave resonant frequency, a center-fed lambda/2 dipole exhibits much
the same characteristics as a series-resonant circuit."

J.C. Maxwell died in 1879 at an age of 48 years, 8 years before Heinrich
Hertz generated the first man-made intentional electromagnetic waves.
These proved Maxwell correct. Oliver Heaviside, a Scot, born in 1850,
decided to teach himself the contents of Maxwell`s "Electromagnetic
Theory" and in 1887 started "dumbing down" Maxwell in a series of
articles published in an English magazine, "The Electrician". That was
the beginning of modern communication engineering.

Oliver Heaviside once said, "Let mathematics be humanized if possible.
The best of proofs is to set out a fact descriptively so that it can be
seen to be a fact."

Heaviside proves that all who are born in Edinburgh or London are not
fools.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI



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Richard Harrison wrote:

J.C. Maxwell, also an Englishman,

Ahem!

[...]
J.C. Maxwell died in 1879 at an age of 48 years, 8 years before
Heinrich Hertz generated the first man-made intentional electromagnetic
waves. These proved Maxwell correct. Oliver Heaviside, a Scot, born in
1850, decided to teach himself the contents of Maxwell`s
"Electromagnetic Theory" and in 1887 started "dumbing down" Maxwell in
a series of articles published in an English magazine, "The
Electrician". That was the beginning of modern communication engineering.

Oliver Heaviside once said, "Let mathematics be humanized if possible.
The best of proofs is to set out a fact descriptively so that it can be
seen to be a fact."

Heaviside proves that all who are born in Edinburgh or London are not
fools.


James Clerk Maxwell was a Scot, born in Edinburgh and buried at his
family home in south-west Scotland, less than 50 miles from here.

Now can we please shut this discussion down? The sound of Maxwell
turning in his grave is keeping this whole county awake.


--

73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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John Smith wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
I would like to add a caviate to assigning...


caviate

Latin

1. Second-person plural present subjunctive of cavare.


Dave K8MN


Here are a few definitions for you of "caveat", from this URL
"http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Acaveat&btnG=Search"

# caution: a warning against certain acts; "a caveat against unfair
practices"

# (law) a formal notice filed with a court or officer to suspend a
proceeding until filer is given a hearing; "a caveat filed against the
probate of a will"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

# Caveat (foaled 1980 in Maryland) was an American thoroughbred stallion
racehorse. Bred by Ryehill Farm, he was sired by Kentucky Derby winner
Cannonade out of the The Axe mare, Cold Hearted.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveat (horse)

# a warning; a qualification or exemption; a notice requesting a
postponement of a court proceedings
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/caveat

# If a caveat is lodged upon a title to land it indicates that another
party other than the owner claims some right over or interest in the
property.
www.aussie.com.au/Glossary.htm

# Is a document any person with a legal interest in a property can lodge
with the Titles Office to ensure the property is not sold without their
knowledge
http://www.malenyrealty.com.au/resou...cal_terms.html

# A note placed on the register in the Land Titles Office at the
instigation of a person who claims a certain interest in the land. In
BC, a caveat remains in force for only 2 months, then lapses.
www.propertytours.ca/realty/glossary.htm

# A warning; a note of caution.
www.id.uscourts.gov/terms-cd.htm

# "Beware" – if a caveat is lodged on a title to land, it warns a person
buying the property that a third party (party which lodged the caveat)
has some right or interest in the property.
www.efame.com.au/glossary.htm

# A warning on a title to a purchaser that a third party might have some
interest or right in the property.
http://www.reinz.org.nz/reinz/public...erminology.cfm

# A formal notice, that asks a court to suspend action until the party
which filed the challenge can be heard.
http://www.boise-idahos-real-estate....ons-c-158.html

# a formal notice given by someone to prevent the proving of a Will or
the grant of administration of an Estate.
www.oceancountygov.com/surrogat/glossary.htm

# means a document lodged with the Recorder of Titles by a person
authorised to do so forbidding the recording of any dealing on the title
subject to the caveat Literally means beware. In real estate, it warns
persons (prospective purchasers, mortgagees, etc. ...
http://www.cromer-partners.com.au/pa...ssaryalpha.php

# A notice of warning given to a public authority, eg Titles Office,
claiming entitlement to an interest in certain land. The caveat is
registered and remains on the books as a warning to anyone who
contemplates dealing with the property. ...
http://www.redearthfinance.com.au/bw...e/followon.asp

# A notice on title proclaiming a possible interest other than that of
an owner.
www.talkproperty.net.au/index.php

# A notice given to a legal authority not to do something until the
person giving notice can be heard.
www.recalgary.com/information/glossary_c.htm

# A legal notice by a person having a (caveatable) interest in the
property which will prevent transfer in title until the claim has been
determined.
www.eastcoastconveyancing.com.au/glossary.htm

# Latin for "beware". Usually it is in the form of a contract clause
that stipulates a particular requirement.
www.yourfinancechoice.com/index.php

# If an creditor of the estate of a decedent is apprehensive that an
estate, wither testate or intestate, will be administered without the
creditor's knowledge, or if any person other than a creditor is
apprehensive that an estate may be administered, or that a will may be
admitted to probate ...
pages.jbiproperties.com/ezrealestateoptions/glossaryofterms.html

# a formal notice or warning against certain actions being taken by a
court; most often seen in regard to the granting of probate of a will by
the court; most common usage as a document that is filed in the Land
Titles Office to warn of possible title defects;
www.manitobacourts.mb.ca/definitions.html

# A notice not to do something until the person caveating has been
heard. It is often seen in the case of land claims, where a caveator
might object to a claim overlapping his own. ...
www.genfiles.com/legal/legalterms.htm

# Latin for “beware”. This often applies to a contract clause
www.interestrate.com.au/glossary.asp

# This indicates the rights or interests of a third party in the
property. A caveat is a legal document which, when lodged in the Land
Registry Office, gives the caveator the opportunity of protecting an
existing right or of establishing an existing claim in property. ...
www.virtualrealty.co.nz/reterms.html

# If you don't pay your fees, you may find one of these registered
against your title. This ensures the corporation gets its money before
you dispose of the asset and may be the basis for collection procedures.
http://www.calgaryselect.com/Housing...0/Default.aspx

Quite interesting, the fact you were being "fooled" into thinking there
was but one! grin

Regards,
JS


I didn't get fooled by anything, "John". Art didn't use the word
"caveat". He used the word "caviate". It means what the definition I
provided says that it means. You may go back to sleep now.

Dave K8MN
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Dave Heil wrote:

...
I didn't get fooled by anything, "John". Art didn't use the word
"caveat". He used the word "caviate". It means what the definition I
provided says that it means. You may go back to sleep now.

Dave K8MN


Yes Dave. But, I realized you would have missed the fact that it is
obvious, to all really, that Art does-not/and-has-not made good use of a
spell checker in all/or-most of his past posts ...

I just realized this would be yet another trivial thing which would
"fool you" once again ...

Don't worry brother, we all see the limitations here, and make
allowances for those missing the obvious ... hey, from time-to-time we
all need a little help. :-)

Regards,
JS
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Ian White, GM3SEK wrote:
"James Clerk Maxwell was a Scot, born in Edinburgh and buried at his
family home in south-west Scotland, less than 50 miles from here. "

Wikipedia agrees. I should have consulted and I stand corrected.
According to Wiki the home is now an interesting museum.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

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On Jul 11, 11:57 am, John Smith wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
...
I didn't get fooled by anything, "John". Art didn't use the word
"caveat". He used the word "caviate". It means what the definition I
provided says that it means. You may go back to sleep now.


Dave K8MN


Yes Dave. But, I realized you would have missed the fact that it is
obvious, to all really, that Art does-not/and-has-not made good use of a
spell checker in all/or-most of his past posts ...

I just realized this would be yet another trivial thing which would
"fool you" once again ...

Don't worry brother, we all see the limitations here, and make
allowances for those missing the obvious ... hey, from time-to-time we
all need a little help. :-)

Regards,
JS


John I know who and what you are, but I also am a man and on the
inside I am an equal
If I am allowed time the ruined paths of communication of my body will
be rebuilt such
that I become an equal also on the outside.And possibly, I hope, the
new system will be to my advantage
When the virus of hate gets near just hold your nose and allow me to
handle the rest, please!
Nothing personal intended
Very best regardsArt
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