On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:05:56 -0400, "W3CQH"
wrote:

Double winding - in which direction and spaced how far apart in each
direction?

On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin wrote:

Wind a close coil any diameter with it until half the wire is used
then change direction and come back
without changing wire winding direction and wind the wire on top of
the first coil where you finish with two wires to feed.
Put a variometer in series with it and then get on the air. Now this
is not exactly in equilibrium because one coil is a larger diameter
than
the other. Nor is the wire pre twisted pair which nullifies near field
noise to my thinking. Now you have a helix style antenna but without
the helix.
Coat the antenna with an alkyd type solution before you slide it off
the tube since the inside coil must be exposed the same way the
outside coil is exposed


Take one wavelength of zip cord. Wrap it around any diameter form, as
distinctly specified above by the authur. Half the wire is used
going, and half the wire is used returning by specification of the zip
cord, as distinctly specified above by the authur.

There is no change in winding direction as zip cord guarantees this by
physical attachment, as specified above by the authur. Both wires are
wrapped without changing direction, as distinctly specified above by
the author.

There is no pre twisting for the same reason (which might nullifie
near field noise to his thinking - an asset to almost anyone else, but
go figure), as specified above by the authur. It is exactly in
equilibrium because both coils are the same diameter, as distinctly
specified above by the authur.

There is no need for coating as there is no inside coil, this is
guaranteed by the physical construction of zip cord. Zip cord also
guarantees equal lengths of going/returning lengths of conductor.

Short one end of the zip cord paired conductors to make the gussian
loop, as distinctly specified above by the authur.

Feed the other end of the zip cord paired conductors to emit the
neutrons' weak force, as distinctly specified above by the authur.

Performance will follow the principal physics of this weak force and
provide an intensely weak signal. If your listeners experience
received signal levels greater than -40dB compared to a standard
(non-gussian) dipole, then you have not followed instructions
distinctly quoted above from the authur.

Careful attention to detail can achieve increased performances of up
to -60dB below traditional designs (indistinctly specified by the
authur).

Take care to note that this design is impossible to model as it
violates every software package's capacity to allow closely spaced
wires. There are absolutely no software products, nor freely
available packages that perform this analysis - you are now in faith
based alchemy. Any claims to the contrary (contradicting this faith
based illusion) are delusional. This level of delusion can be
confirmed by the whole absence of reference, citation, or offering of
results of double-blind testing.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:41:15 -0700, Richard Clark wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:05:56 -0400, "W3CQH"
wrote:

Double winding - in which direction and spaced how far apart in each
direction?

On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

Wind a close coil any diameter with it until half the wire is used then
change direction and come back
without changing wire winding direction and wind the wire on top of the
first coil where you finish with two wires to feed. Put a variometer in
series with it and then get on the air. Now this is not exactly in
equilibrium because one coil is a larger diameter than
the other. Nor is the wire pre twisted pair which nullifies near field
noise to my thinking. Now you have a helix style antenna but without
the helix.
Coat the antenna with an alkyd type solution before you slide it off
the tube since the inside coil must be exposed the same way the outside
coil is exposed


Take one wavelength of zip cord. Wrap it around any diameter form, as
distinctly specified above by the authur. Half the wire is used going,
and half the wire is used returning by specification of the zip cord, as
distinctly specified above by the authur.

There is no change in winding direction as zip cord guarantees this by
physical attachment, as specified above by the authur. Both wires are
wrapped without changing direction, as distinctly specified above by the
author.

Not that I have any confidence in Art's antenna design. But you wind a
cylinder with zip cord from left to right, with the left end pair being
the feed and the right pair shorted (as if a single 2W wire) then the
'return winding' will essentially be wrapped in the opposite direction.

"Tehrasha Darkon" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:41:15 -0700, Richard Clark wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:05:56 -0400, "W3CQH"
wrote:

Double winding - in which direction and spaced how far apart in each
direction?

On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

Wind a close coil any diameter with it until half the wire is used then
change direction and come back
without changing wire winding direction and wind the wire on top of the
first coil where you finish with two wires to feed. Put a variometer in
series with it and then get on the air. Now this is not exactly in
equilibrium because one coil is a larger diameter than
the other. Nor is the wire pre twisted pair which nullifies near field
noise to my thinking. Now you have a helix style antenna but without
the helix.
Coat the antenna with an alkyd type solution before you slide it off
the tube since the inside coil must be exposed the same way the outside
coil is exposed


Take one wavelength of zip cord. Wrap it around any diameter form, as
distinctly specified above by the authur. Half the wire is used going,
and half the wire is used returning by specification of the zip cord, as
distinctly specified above by the authur.

There is no change in winding direction as zip cord guarantees this by
physical attachment, as specified above by the authur. Both wires are
wrapped without changing direction, as distinctly specified above by the
author.

Not that I have any confidence in Art's antenna design. But you wind a
cylinder with zip cord from left to right, with the left end pair being
the feed and the right pair shorted (as if a single 2W wire) then the
'return winding' will essentially be wrapped in the opposite direction.

Well if you do wrap in one direction and then immediately wrap in the
opposite direction upon each other, I wonder what the cancellation db
figures are. On the other hand if you should wrap in the reverse direction
with some substantial spacing, I could imagine that there might be some gain
although very small??

"Tehrasha Darkon" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:41:15 -0700, Richard Clark wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:05:56 -0400, "W3CQH"
wrote:

Double winding - in which direction and spaced how far apart in each
direction?

On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

Wind a close coil any diameter with it until half the wire is used then
change direction and come back
without changing wire winding direction and wind the wire on top of the
first coil where you finish with two wires to feed. Put a variometer in
series with it and then get on the air. Now this is not exactly in
equilibrium because one coil is a larger diameter than
the other. Nor is the wire pre twisted pair which nullifies near field
noise to my thinking. Now you have a helix style antenna but without
the helix.
Coat the antenna with an alkyd type solution before you slide it off
the tube since the inside coil must be exposed the same way the outside
coil is exposed


Take one wavelength of zip cord. Wrap it around any diameter form, as
distinctly specified above by the authur. Half the wire is used going,
and half the wire is used returning by specification of the zip cord, as
distinctly specified above by the authur.

There is no change in winding direction as zip cord guarantees this by
physical attachment, as specified above by the authur. Both wires are
wrapped without changing direction, as distinctly specified above by the
author.

Not that I have any confidence in Art's antenna design. But you wind a
cylinder with zip cord from left to right, with the left end pair being
the feed and the right pair shorted (as if a single 2W wire) then the
'return winding' will essentially be wrapped in the opposite direction.

BTW if you split the 2 zip cord wires apart you could construct a loop
antenna, in just about any configuration you wished.

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:06:27 +0000 (UTC), Tehrasha Darkon
wrote:

On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

Wind a close coil any diameter with it until half the wire is used then
change direction and come back
without changing wire winding direction

then the
'return winding' will essentially be wrapped in the opposite direction.

The authur is quite distinct. Zip cord perfectly enforces the
original specification of winding direction. Any confusion that
results is not expressed by the explicit statement from that authur
above.

Further, results of supremely weak performance confirms this and has
been experienced by many (including Guss himself) for more than 3
centuries now.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:22:43 -0400, "W3CQH"
wrote:

I could imagine that there might be some gain
although very small??

-60dB gain is quite substantial - even if small. All antennas have
gain.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:25:30 -0400, "W3CQH"
wrote:

BTW if you split the 2 zip cord wires apart you could construct a loop
antenna, in just about any configuration you wished.

We aren't talking about "any" antenna, just those with superior weak
force performance due to neutron emission. It's all there on the
page, just read it!

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Jul 10, 11:06 am, Tehrasha Darkon wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:41:15 -0700, Richard Clark wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:05:56 -0400, "W3CQH"
wrote:

Double winding - in which direction and spaced how far apart in each
direction?

On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

Wind a close coil any diameter with it until half the wire is used then
change direction and come back
without changing wire winding direction and wind the wire on top of the
first coil where you finish with two wires to feed. Put a variometer in
series with it and then get on the air. Now this is not exactly in
equilibrium because one coil is a larger diameter than
the other. Nor is the wire pre twisted pair which nullifies near field
noise to my thinking. Now you have a helix style antenna but without
the helix.
Coat the antenna with an alkyd type solution before you slide it off
the tube since the inside coil must be exposed the same way the outside
coil is exposed

Take one wavelength of zip cord. Wrap it around any diameter form, as
distinctly specified above by the authur. Half the wire is used going,
and half the wire is used returning by specification of the zip cord, as
distinctly specified above by the authur.

There is no change in winding direction as zip cord guarantees this by
physical attachment, as specified above by the authur. Both wires are
wrapped without changing direction, as distinctly specified above by the
author.

Not that I have any confidence in Art's antenna design. But you wind a
cylinder with zip cord from left to right, with the left end pair being
the feed and the right pair shorted (as if a single 2W wire) then the
'return winding' will essentially be wrapped in the opposite direction.

Correct. And if zip wire is used then you are adding a lumped load
which is a violation with respect to equilibriu,

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:21:56 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

Not that I have any confidence in Art's antenna design. But you wind a
cylinder with zip cord from left to right, with the left end pair being
the feed and the right pair shorted (as if a single 2W wire) then the
'return winding' will essentially be wrapped in the opposite direction.

Correct. And if zip wire is used then you are adding a lumped load
which is a violation with respect to equilibriu,

The zip cord is in true equilibrium for any winding. What you
describe is twisting and this violates equilibrium. That won't work,
and Guss has demonstrated this three centuries ago.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Take care to note that this design is impossible to model as it
violates every software package's capacity to allow closely spaced
wires. There are absolutely no software products, nor freely
available packages that perform this analysis - you are now in faith
based alchemy. Any claims to the contrary (contradicting this faith
based illusion) are delusional. This level of delusion can be
confirmed by the whole absence of reference, citation, or offering of
results of double-blind testing.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

You could always use a lumped element model, but be sure a balun
is not included, in order to maximize radiation from the coaxial feedline
shield.

Frank