On Jul 15, 6:03 am, "Walter Maxwell" wrote:
"Richard Clark" wrote in message

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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:05:06 -0700 (PDT), Bill B
wrote:

What would be the optimum given a 15X15 inch square space?

Hi Bill,

You are already there (or, rather, you are already so close that you
wouldn't be able to tell the difference which would be a circle of 15
inch diameter). Subtended area counts for most.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

If yer local to a 50kw station, why do you need an antenna all?

Walt, W2DU

I just use the local 50kw station as a reference. It's hard to see
microvolts from some far away station on a scope, so I just use the
big signals to make comparisons. I can see about 14 stations on a
scope connected directly to the loop, but the amplitudes vary from a
few millivolts to almost a volt.

-Bill

"Bill B" wrote in message
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On Jul 15, 6:03 am, "Walter Maxwell" wrote:
"Richard Clark" wrote in message

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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:05:06 -0700 (PDT), Bill B
wrote:

What would be the optimum given a 15X15 inch square space?

Hi Bill,

You are already there (or, rather, you are already so close that you
wouldn't be able to tell the difference which would be a circle of 15
inch diameter). Subtended area counts for most.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

If yer local to a 50kw station, why do you need an antenna all?

Walt, W2DU

I just use the local 50kw station as a reference. It's hard to see
microvolts from some far away station on a scope, so I just use the
big signals to make comparisons. I can see about 14 stations on a
scope connected directly to the loop, but the amplitudes vary from a
few millivolts to almost a volt.

-Bill

hook a couple of them up to a rectifier and use them to charge batteries to
power your radio. might as well make some use of that rf that is passing
through you all the time!

On Jul 15, 4:35 pm, "Dave" wrote:
"Bill B" wrote in message

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On Jul 15, 6:03 am, "Walter Maxwell" wrote:
"Richard Clark" wrote in message

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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:05:06 -0700 (PDT), Bill B
wrote:

What would be the optimum given a 15X15 inch square space?

Hi Bill,

You are already there (or, rather, you are already so close that you
wouldn't be able to tell the difference which would be a circle of 15
inch diameter). Subtended area counts for most.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

If yer local to a 50kw station, why do you need an antenna all?

Walt, W2DU

I just use the local 50kw station as a reference. It's hard to see
microvolts from some far away station on a scope, so I just use the
big signals to make comparisons. I can see about 14 stations on a
scope connected directly to the loop, but the amplitudes vary from a
few millivolts to almost a volt.

-Bill

hook a couple of them up to a rectifier and use them to charge batteries to
power your radio. might as well make some use of that rf that is passing
through you all the time!

Actually, I use a 20 watt solar panel to charge batteries that power a
car radio in my bedroom. At 12 cents a KWH, I figure I save 12 cents
in 50 hours under good conditions, but I don't leave the panel outside
all the time, just when the batteries get weak. It's good exercise
dragging the solar panel out from under my bed and putting it out in
the sunshine, and then putting it away again. It weighs about 17
pounds.

-Bill