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"Back at about the same time the BBC had (and still has) a powerful
transmitter on 200khz (now198) a local farmer who lived close to the
station
built a large tuning coil in the loft and lit his house using fluorescent
tubes.

He was successfully prosecuted for stealing electricity or something
similar.


If this is true (and I have no reason to doubt it), did it make the
signal weaker for everybody else?

73 de G3NYY


In the version that I heard it was the null that the 'suck out' caused that
led to an investigation that resulted in the prosecution.

Now whether this is true or not is another matter.

73
Jeff


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Jeff wrote:
"Back at about the same time the BBC had (and still has) a powerful
transmitter on 200khz (now198) a local farmer who lived close to the
station
built a large tuning coil in the loft and lit his house using fluorescent
tubes.

He was successfully prosecuted for stealing electricity or something
similar.

If this is true (and I have no reason to doubt it), did it make the
signal weaker for everybody else?

73 de G3NYY


In the version that I heard it was the null that the 'suck out' caused that
led to an investigation that resulted in the prosecution.

Now whether this is true or not is another matter.


It seems to me that a resonant structure to capture energy would
re-radiate so I can't see where such a null would come from, the
wavelength is long so the path difference between the main tx and the
re-radiator would make such a phase shift difficult to achieve.

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In the version that I heard it was the null that the 'suck out' caused
that
led to an investigation that resulted in the prosecution.

Now whether this is true or not is another matter.


It seems to me that a resonant structure to capture energy would
re-radiate so I can't see where such a null would come from, the
wavelength is long so the path difference between the main tx and the
re-radiator would make such a phase shift difficult to achieve.

--

Brian


Surely that would only be true if the power was not dumped into a load? The
power in the load has to come from somewhere, and if it is in the load it is
not in the aether.

Jeff


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Jeff wrote:
In the version that I heard it was the null that the 'suck out' caused
that
led to an investigation that resulted in the prosecution.

Now whether this is true or not is another matter.

It seems to me that a resonant structure to capture energy would
re-radiate so I can't see where such a null would come from, the
wavelength is long so the path difference between the main tx and the
re-radiator would make such a phase shift difficult to achieve.


Surely that would only be true if the power was not dumped into a load? The
power in the load has to come from somewhere, and if it is in the load it is
not in the aether.


It depends on the power captured vs the power in the load, but in any
case the aperture of the loop is fairly small and cannot allow energy to
be captured from outside that aperture. In comparison with the size of
the transmitting antenna and the field it generates this must be
insignificant I think.

In fact, I wonder if he could really run a house full of fluorescent
lights this way.

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"Jeff" wrote:

"Back at about the same time the BBC had (and still has) a powerful
transmitter on 200khz (now198) a local farmer who lived close to the
station
built a large tuning coil in the loft and lit his house using fluorescent
tubes.

He was successfully prosecuted for stealing electricity or something
similar.


If this is true (and I have no reason to doubt it), did it make the
signal weaker for everybody else?

73 de G3NYY


In the version that I heard it was the null that the 'suck out' caused that
led to an investigation that resulted in the prosecution.

Now whether this is true or not is another matter.

73
Jeff


I thought the farmers equipment caused four "nulls", or local minima, in the
radiation pattern.

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John Byrns

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