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In Switzerland on the 10th of this month they are going to project a
particle thru the Earths crust at the speed of light. The particle that they are projecting comes from outer space. So what does this have to do with antennas? Low energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space but they obtain their own magnetic field as they enter the earths arbitrary field and settle on such things as antennas made from a diamagnetic material! When a time varing field is applied to a diamagnetic material two magnetic fields are generated, primary and secondary both of which together project the particles off of the radiator with a spinnning action that provides a straight line projection away from gravitational effects. The anti gravity force or the electroweak force is the secondary magnetic field alluded to earlier. This electroweak force is used regularly in scrap metal yards to sort materials by ejection from magnetized conveyor line which produces a magnetic field which ejects metals of a like field into a particular container by the inter action of two magnetic fields as per antenna/radiator. It is the secondary force that is known as the weak force which is a closed field on the material surface called the Foucault current or eddy current which is also used for non destructive metal examination.So soon the CERN project will try to mimic the antenna operation by projecting a particle originaly from outer space thru the crust of the Earth at near the speed of light where they will be captured by a large area of water, which is a diamagnetic material just like our receiving antennas !. Regards Art KB9MZ...........xg |
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Art Unwin wrote:
In Switzerland on the 10th of this month they are going to project a particle thru the Earths crust at the speed of light. The particle that they are projecting comes from outer space. Well actually they are going project 2 locally generated proton beams around a giant circle at 99.99% the speed of light so that they collide. But don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. So what does this have to do with antennas? Nothing. Low energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space Actually, high energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space, they are called cosmic rays, but again don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. but they obtain their own magnetic field as they enter the earths arbitrary field and settle on such things as antennas made from a diamagnetic material! And thus we have completed our journey to la-la land. Hope you enjoyed the trip. snip remaining babble -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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On Sep 4, 9:45*pm, wrote:
Art Unwin wrote: In Switzerland on the 10th of this month they are going to project a particle thru the Earths crust at the speed of light. The particle that they are projecting comes from outer space. Well actually they are going project 2 locally generated proton beams around a giant circle at 99.99% the speed of light so that they collide. But don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. So what does this have to do with antennas? Nothing. Low energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space Actually, high energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space, they are called cosmic rays, but again don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. but they obtain their own magnetic field as they enter the earths arbitrary field and settle on such things as antennas made from a diamagnetic material! And thus we have completed our journey to la-la land. Hope you enjoyed the trip. snip remaining babble -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. My understanding was that the experiment that I described was the initiating test where the collider experiment was going to start around November. So If I am behind in the facts, and I may be, you are surely aware that one of the tests is as I described ! Either way the search is for info on the leptons and their bye products such as Neutrinos which I have stated before can well be the same particle involved with radiatiation. Since you declare your self so up to date I would like to hear your opinion as to why my explanation of radiation is incorrect instead of immittating a reckless smart arse plus your interpretation of the electro-weak force which overides my explanation? Arrt |
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Art Unwin wrote:
On Sep 4, 9:45?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: In Switzerland on the 10th of this month they are going to project a particle thru the Earths crust at the speed of light. The particle that they are projecting comes from outer space. Well actually they are going project 2 locally generated proton beams around a giant circle at 99.99% the speed of light so that they collide. But don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. So what does this have to do with antennas? Nothing. Low energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space Actually, high energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space, they are called cosmic rays, but again don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. but they obtain their own magnetic field as they enter the earths arbitrary field and settle on such things as antennas made from a diamagnetic material! And thus we have completed our journey to la-la land. Hope you enjoyed the trip. snip remaining babble -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. My understanding was that the experiment that I described was the initiating test where the collider experiment was going to start around November. So If I am behind in the facts, and I may be, you are surely aware that one of the tests is as I described ! Wrong, everything goes around in a circle in a vacuum. There never was a plan to do anything else. Nothing is going into the Earth's crust. Either way the search is for info on the leptons and their bye products such as Neutrinos which I have stated before can well be the same particle involved with radiatiation. Wrong, the search is for information on the collision of large hadrons which are composed of quarks, not leptons, and specifically to see if the Higgs boson is produced in the collision. This would be a step in the search for a so called Grand Unified Theory which would unify electromagnetism, the strong nuclear force, and the weak nuclear force, leaving out only gravity. Neutrinos are leptons, not a by product of leptons. Since you declare your self so up to date I would like to hear your opinion as to why my explanation of radiation is incorrect instead of immittating a reckless smart arse plus your interpretation of the electro-weak force which overides my explanation? I declare myself able to read and as having stayed awake during physics classes enough to know there is no such thing as an "electro-weak force". www.cern.ch -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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On Sep 4, 9:45*pm, wrote:
Art Unwin wrote: In Switzerland on the 10th of this month they are going to project a particle thru the Earths crust at the speed of light. The particle that they are projecting comes from outer space. Well actually they are going project 2 locally generated proton beams around a giant circle at 99.99% the speed of light so that they collide. But don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. So what does this have to do with antennas? Nothing. Low energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space Actually, high energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space, they are called cosmic rays, but again don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. but they obtain their own magnetic field as they enter the earths arbitrary field and settle on such things as antennas made from a diamagnetic material! And thus we have completed our journey to la-la land. Hope you enjoyed the trip. snip remaining babble -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. When one referes to Cosmic rays it really shows that he is uninformed. Informed people would call it an accumullation of particles that continually bombard our earth some of which release their energy when collisions occur with the earths magnetic field. Such particles are usually clumps bounded together by the force of colour that is released in the form of an Aurora where some speculate it is that that feeds energy to the weather clouds of Earth that provides time varying magnetic fields which can create tornadoes as a form of eddy current. Those that bombard or float thru the earth's boundary are in single particle form and rest on surfaces that will not absorb them into their overall atomic pattern. Since the earth is more than 95% diagmatic they can really settle anywhere. It is these particles that I am refering to and that is not babble unless you can prove otherwise. These same particles cannot radiate in space under their own means but only when under the earth's gravitational influence and where the anti gravity forces become a reality.(Newton's law in action) If you are not aware of the particular experiment that I was referring to then your posting was intended to cause anger because of the absence of anything that could be seen as adding to a conversation in a polite manner. Art Unwin |
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Art Unwin wrote:
On Sep 4, 9:45?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: In Switzerland on the 10th of this month they are going to project a particle thru the Earths crust at the speed of light. The particle that they are projecting comes from outer space. Well actually they are going project 2 locally generated proton beams around a giant circle at 99.99% the speed of light so that they collide. But don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. So what does this have to do with antennas? Nothing. Low energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space Actually, high energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space, they are called cosmic rays, but again don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. but they obtain their own magnetic field as they enter the earths arbitrary field and settle on such things as antennas made from a diamagnetic material! And thus we have completed our journey to la-la land. Hope you enjoyed the trip. snip remaining babble -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. When one referes to Cosmic rays it really shows that he is uninformed. Informed people would call it an accumullation of particles that continually bombard our earth some of which release their energy when collisions occur with the earths magnetic field. Wrong, the term "cosmic rays" is a misnomer as they are actually individually arriving partcles, about 90% of which are protons, 9% are helium nuclei or alpha particles and about 1% are electrons. They collide with the molecules of the atmosphere and produce a cascade of lighter particles. Such particles are usually clumps bounded together by the force of colour that is released in the form of an Aurora where some speculate it is that that feeds energy to the weather clouds of Earth that provides time varying magnetic fields which can create tornadoes as a form of eddy current. Those that bombard or float thru the earth's boundary are in single particle form and rest on surfaces that will not absorb them into their overall atomic pattern. Since the earth is more than 95% diagmatic they can really settle anywhere. Utter, babbling nonsense. Cosmic rays arrive individually and are not clumped. It is these particles that I am refering to and that is not babble unless you can prove otherwise. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_ray http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/cosmic.html http://www.srl.caltech.edu/personnel...cos_encyc.html http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/SOLAR/C...YS/cosmic.html http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/sc...smic_rays.html http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ro/cosmic.html http://www2.slac.stanford.edu/vvc/cosmic_rays.html http://www.ast.leeds.ac.uk/haverah/aims.shtml http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1009160230.htm http://www.auger.org/ Want more proof you are babbling nonsense? These same particles cannot radiate in space under their own means but only when under the earth's gravitational influence and where the anti gravity forces become a reality.(Newton's law in action) More babbling nonsense. The particles come from space. Gravity has little influence on them. There is no such thing as "the anti gravity forces". The velocities and energies are such that Newtonian physics doesn't apply and you are forced to use relativistic physics. If you are not aware of the particular experiment that I was referring to then your posting was intended to cause anger because of the absence of anything that could be seen as adding to a conversation in a polite manner. There is no such experiment. www.cern.ch -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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On Sep 4, 11:05*pm, wrote:
Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 4, 9:45?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: In Switzerland on the 10th of this month they are going to project a particle thru the Earths crust at the speed of light. The particle that they are projecting comes from outer space. Well actually they are going project 2 locally generated proton beams around a giant circle at 99.99% the speed of light so that they collide. But don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. So what does this have to do with antennas? Nothing. Low energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space Actually, high energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space, they are called cosmic rays, but again don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. but they obtain their own magnetic field as they enter the earths arbitrary field and settle on such things as antennas made from a diamagnetic material! And thus we have completed our journey to la-la land. Hope you enjoyed the trip. snip remaining babble -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. My understanding was that the experiment that I described was the initiating test where the collider experiment was going to start around November. So If I am behind in the facts, and I may be, you are surely aware that one of the tests is as I described ! Wrong, everything goes around in a circle in a vacuum. There never was a plan to do anything else. Nothing is going into the Earth's crust. Either way the search is for info on the *leptons and their bye products such as Neutrinos which I have stated before can well be the same particle involved with radiatiation. Wrong, the search is for information on the collision of large hadrons which are composed of quarks, not leptons, and specifically to see if the Higgs boson is produced in the collision. This would be a step in the search for a so called Grand Unified Theory which would unify electromagnetism, the strong nuclear force, and the weak nuclear force, leaving out only gravity. Neutrinos are leptons, not a by product of leptons. Since you declare your self so up to date I would like to hear your opinion as to why my explanation of radiation is incorrect instead of immittating a reckless smart arse plus *your interpretation of the electro-weak force which overides my explanation? I declare myself able to read and as having stayed awake during physics classes enough to know there is no such thing as an "electro-weak force". www.cern.ch -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. Oh my! Leptons are objects of different flavours one of which the neutrino evolves from. If I remember correctly there are 4 types of leptons one of which is a clump of five or more electrons of which three are of colour form i.e. heavy binding forces As far as there is no such thing as a electroweak force. The standard model of physics has four forces of which electro weak or anti gravity force is one, Einstein spent his whole life looking for it and it is expected that Higgs field will provide details. If you want to disagree about the four forces and reduce them to three then be my guest but it is the weak force that provides the tilting force on a antenna in equilibrium. I understand that one sea port have tilted all their antennas to get improved performance which is provided by the "weak" force and its presence is verified by the laws of Maxwell and Newton The experiment I am refering to is the projection of particles from a near earth surface and where the particles travel in a straight line at right angles to the center of the earth where they penetrate the earths surface and emerge some hundred miles away, the particles being called neutrinos which are low life radiation particles that escape from the Sun's arbitrary boundary. They are one of many types of particles that exist in the Universe some of which are distributed by solar winds. I would be very interested on what grounds you dismiss the existance of the "weak" force since all the masters of science include that force for the attainment of equilibriumaround which all Universal laws are based around..The weak force does not exist in outer space but when gravity enters the situation Newtons law states for every action there is a reactionI Was Faraday,Newton Coloumn,Gauss, Einstein, Feyman and others all totally in error because of something that YOU have found? Why not print your physics fact sheet so that CERN can redirect their efforts? Art Unwin......KB9MZ |
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On Sep 4, 11:45*pm, wrote:
Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 4, 9:45?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: In Switzerland on the 10th of this month they are going to project a particle thru the Earths crust at the speed of light. The particle that they are projecting comes from outer space. Well actually they are going project 2 locally generated proton beams around a giant circle at 99.99% the speed of light so that they collide. But don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. So what does this have to do with antennas? Nothing. Low energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space Actually, high energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space, they are called cosmic rays, but again don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. but they obtain their own magnetic field as they enter the earths arbitrary field and settle on such things as antennas made from a diamagnetic material! And thus we have completed our journey to la-la land. Hope you enjoyed the trip. snip remaining babble -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. When one referes to Cosmic rays it really shows that he is uninformed. Informed people would call it an accumullation of particles that continually bombard our earth some of which release their energy when collisions occur with the earths magnetic field. Wrong, the term "cosmic rays" is a misnomer as they are actually individually arriving partcles, about 90% of which are protons, 9% are helium nuclei or alpha particles and about 1% are electrons. They collide with the molecules of the atmosphere and produce a cascade of lighter particles. Such particles are usually clumps bounded together by the force of colour that is released in the form of an Aurora where some speculate it *is that that feeds energy to the weather clouds of Earth that provides time varying magnetic fields which can create tornadoes as a form of eddy current. Those that bombard or float thru the earth's boundary are in single particle form and rest on surfaces that will not absorb them into their overall atomic pattern. Since the earth is more than 95% diagmatic they can really settle anywhere. Utter, babbling nonsense. Cosmic rays arrive individually and are not clumped. It is these particles that I am refering to and that is not babble unless you can prove otherwise. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_...www.auger.org/ Want more proof you are babbling nonsense? These same particles cannot radiate in space under their own means but only when under the earth's gravitational influence and where the anti gravity forces become a reality.(Newton's law in action) More babbling nonsense. The particles come from space. Gravity has little influence on them. There is no such thing as "the anti gravity forces". The velocities and energies are such that Newtonian physics doesn't apply and you are forced to use relativistic physics. If you are not aware of the particular experiment that I was referring to then your posting was intended to cause anger *because of the absence of anything that could be seen as adding to a conversation in a polite manner. There is no such experiment. www.cern.ch -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. Cosmic rays are particles as you stated Wilkpedia said as much by saying it is a misnomer, I also called them particles which is what you contradicted ! Personaly I do not know what the word "ray" defines with respect to physics since physics is built around particles that can oscillate. I believe most if not all of your statements are false and thus raise the question of validity when you espouse about antennas of which the "weak" force is a vital component of radiation directivity and density. As far as the experiment that I refered to as being non existent the same as the presence of four forces with respect to the standard model I would remind you that similar tests were done in I believe Japan, where they had difficulty in harvesting the amount of neutrinos that they had calculated upon but later proved their calculations were correct. Neutrinos seemes to be the center of Physics these days with the may publications yet you seem to know so little about the subject. I think you have said enough on this thread to expose yourself Art |
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Art Unwin wrote:
On Sep 4, 11:05?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 4, 9:45?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: In Switzerland on the 10th of this month they are going to project a particle thru the Earths crust at the speed of light. The particle that they are projecting comes from outer space. Well actually they are going project 2 locally generated proton beams around a giant circle at 99.99% the speed of light so that they collide. But don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. So what does this have to do with antennas? Nothing. Low energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space Actually, high energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space, they are called cosmic rays, but again don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. but they obtain their own magnetic field as they enter the earths arbitrary field and settle on such things as antennas made from a diamagnetic material! And thus we have completed our journey to la-la land. Hope you enjoyed the trip. snip remaining babble -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. My understanding was that the experiment that I described was the initiating test where the collider experiment was going to start around November. So If I am behind in the facts, and I may be, you are surely aware that one of the tests is as I described ! Wrong, everything goes around in a circle in a vacuum. There never was a plan to do anything else. Nothing is going into the Earth's crust. Either way the search is for info on the ?leptons and their bye products such as Neutrinos which I have stated before can well be the same particle involved with radiatiation. Wrong, the search is for information on the collision of large hadrons which are composed of quarks, not leptons, and specifically to see if the Higgs boson is produced in the collision. This would be a step in the search for a so called Grand Unified Theory which would unify electromagnetism, the strong nuclear force, and the weak nuclear force, leaving out only gravity. Neutrinos are leptons, not a by product of leptons. Since you declare your self so up to date I would like to hear your opinion as to why my explanation of radiation is incorrect instead of immittating a reckless smart arse plus ?your interpretation of the electro-weak force which overides my explanation? I declare myself able to read and as having stayed awake during physics classes enough to know there is no such thing as an "electro-weak force". www.cern.ch -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. Oh my! Leptons are objects of different flavours one of which the neutrino evolves from. If I remember correctly there are 4 types of leptons one of which is a clump of five or more electrons of which three are of colour form i.e. heavy binding forces As far as there is no such thing as a electroweak force. The standard model of physics has four forces of which electro weak or anti gravity force is one, Einstein spent his whole life looking for it and it is expected that Higgs field will provide details. If you want to disagree about the four forces and reduce them to three then be my guest but it is the weak force that provides the tilting force on a antenna in equilibrium. I understand that one sea port have tilted all their antennas to get improved performance which is provided by the "weak" force and its presence is verified by the laws of Maxwell and Newton The experiment I am refering to is the projection of particles from a near earth surface and where the particles travel in a straight line at right angles to the center of the earth where they penetrate the earths surface and emerge some hundred miles away, the particles being called neutrinos which are low life radiation particles that escape from the Sun's arbitrary boundary. They are one of many types of particles that exist in the Universe some of which are distributed by solar winds. I would be very interested on what grounds you dismiss the existance of the "weak" force since all the masters of science include that force for the attainment of equilibriumaround which all Universal laws are based around..The weak force does not exist in outer space but when gravity enters the situation Newtons law states for every action there is a reactionI Was Faraday,Newton Coloumn,Gauss, Einstein, Feyman and others all totally in error because of something that YOU have found? Why not print your physics fact sheet so that CERN can redirect their efforts? Art Unwin......KB9MZ The people at CERN already know what they are doing and none of it even comes close to matching all your babbling nonsense. www.cern.ch It would take more hours than I care to invest to correct all this babble. Try these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lepton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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wrote in message ... Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 4, 9:45?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: In Switzerland on the 10th of this month they are going to project a particle thru the Earths crust at the speed of light. The particle that they are projecting comes from outer space. Well actually they are going project 2 locally generated proton beams around a giant circle at 99.99% the speed of light so that they collide. But don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. So what does this have to do with antennas? Nothing. Low energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space Actually, high energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space, they are called cosmic rays, but again don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. but they obtain their own magnetic field as they enter the earths arbitrary field and settle on such things as antennas made from a diamagnetic material! And thus we have completed our journey to la-la land. Hope you enjoyed the trip. snip remaining babble -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. When one referes to Cosmic rays it really shows that he is uninformed. Informed people would call it an accumullation of particles that continually bombard our earth some of which release their energy when collisions occur with the earths magnetic field. Wrong, the term "cosmic rays" is a misnomer as they are actually individually arriving partcles, about 90% of which are protons, 9% are helium nuclei or alpha particles and about 1% are electrons. They collide with the molecules of the atmosphere and produce a cascade of lighter particles. Such particles are usually clumps bounded together by the force of colour that is released in the form of an Aurora where some speculate it is that that feeds energy to the weather clouds of Earth that provides time varying magnetic fields which can create tornadoes as a form of eddy current. Those that bombard or float thru the earth's boundary are in single particle form and rest on surfaces that will not absorb them into their overall atomic pattern. Since the earth is more than 95% diagmatic they can really settle anywhere. Utter, babbling nonsense. Cosmic rays arrive individually and are not clumped. It is these particles that I am refering to and that is not babble unless you can prove otherwise. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_ray http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/cosmic.html http://www.srl.caltech.edu/personnel...cos_encyc.html http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/SOLAR/C...YS/cosmic.html http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/sc...smic_rays.html http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ro/cosmic.html http://www2.slac.stanford.edu/vvc/cosmic_rays.html http://www.ast.leeds.ac.uk/haverah/aims.shtml http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1009160230.htm http://www.auger.org/ Want more proof you are babbling nonsense? These same particles cannot radiate in space under their own means but only when under the earth's gravitational influence and where the anti gravity forces become a reality.(Newton's law in action) More babbling nonsense. The particles come from space. Gravity has little influence on them. There is no such thing as "the anti gravity forces". The velocities and energies are such that Newtonian physics doesn't apply and you are forced to use relativistic physics. If you are not aware of the particular experiment that I was referring to then your posting was intended to cause anger because of the absence of anything that could be seen as adding to a conversation in a polite manner. There is no such experiment. www.cern.ch -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. welcome back art, i needed a good laugh today! your statement about tornados being caused by eddy currents is a real knee slapper! keep up the good work, some day with all your material you could be a stand up act at a physics convention. guaranteed to bring the house down! |
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Dave wrote:
welcome back art, i needed a good laugh today! your statement about tornados being caused by eddy currents is a real knee slapper! From Webster's: "eddy - a current at variance with the main current in a stream of liquid or gas, esp. one having a rotary or whirling motion." Wouldn't tornadoes, spawned around the edge of a hurricane, meet that definition of "eddy current"? -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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On Sep 5, 8:03*am, Cecil Moore wrote:
Dave wrote: welcome back art, i needed a good laugh today! *your statement about tornados being caused by eddy currents is a real knee slapper! *From Webster's: "eddy - a current at variance with the main current in a stream of liquid or gas, esp. one having a rotary or whirling motion." Wouldn't tornadoes, spawned around the edge of a hurricane, meet that definition of "eddy current"? -- 73, Cecil *http://www.w5dxp.com It is similar to a helicopter or a Sedgeway where one must have stability. That is why the rotator at the rear of a helicopter follows the Universal law of action and reaction mimicing the eddy force. Same goes for the weather. Lightning is a electrical occillation of many frequencies thus follows the same Universal law. When there is a heavy storm that picks up energy from the ground and lightning occurrs ir must produce a circulating force in equal and opposite fashion. When I spoke of the weather I used it as an example of the swirling eddy current where the rest was speculation based on same. Exactly the same motions occur during radiation in the manner I spoke of in the beginning of this thread. Simple physics Art Unwin KB9MZ |
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On Sep 5, 9:26*am, Art Unwin wrote:
On Sep 5, 8:03*am, Cecil Moore wrote: Dave wrote: welcome back art, i needed a good laugh today! *your statement about tornados being caused by eddy currents is a real knee slapper! *From Webster's: "eddy - a current at variance with the main current in a stream of liquid or gas, esp. one having a rotary or whirling motion." Wouldn't tornadoes, spawned around the edge of a hurricane, meet that definition of "eddy current"? -- 73, Cecil *http://www.w5dxp.com It is similar to a helicopter or a Sedgeway where one must have stability. That is why the rotator at the rear of a helicopter follows the Universal law of action and reaction mimicing the eddy force. Same goes for the weather. Lightning is a electrical occillation of many frequencies thus follows the same Universal law. When there is a heavy storm that picks up energy from the ground and lightning occurrs ir must produce a circulating force in equal and opposite fashion. When I spoke of the weather I used it as an example of the swirling eddy current *where the rest was speculation based on same. Exactly the same motions occur during *radiation in the manner I spoke of in the beginning of this thread. Simple physics Art Unwin KB9MZ Yunno This thread high lights why electrical engineers fail to fully understand radiation by viewing it as a electrical phenomina instead of the adherence to the Universal laws. True parallel radiators produce radiation when applying just a portion of the forces in the standard model such that antennas are formed horizontally to include the gravitational forces and ignoring the electro weak force which for equilibrium means the radiator must be tilted. If one follows the laws of equilibrium which Maxwell's laws do all forces must be taken into account for three dimensional resolvement where the yagi involves just a two dimensional structure, which in itself does not represent ALL the vectors involved produced by all four forces. The four forces are there ofcourse because without the "weak force" radiation cannot occur, It is this force that pushes charges to the outside of a conducter by the swirling action of the eddy current, which is commonly reffered to by electrical engineers a "skin depth",.which is also made use of in non destructive metal measurements where a fissure breaks the rotational closed current circuit. Until scientists stop using computers in the hope that something will emerge to advance science there will be no progress especially when they are wedded to that printed in books which is representitive of present day theory only which times past has shown to be oft times incorrect. Correct use of Universal laws such as those of Maxwell are based on equilibrium where all forces are accounted for and without which radiation cannot occur. Without acceptance of such we only have self perceived experts in the hobby of ham radio. Happy days Art Unwin KB9MZ...........xg |
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"Art Unwin" wrote -massive drivel snip- Without acceptance of such we only have self perceived experts in the hobby of ham radio. Happy days Art Unwin KB9MZ...........xg Art: I checked your web page... soooo glad to see that you've corrected the errors, and have posted only what you KNOW about antennas! Mike W5CHR Memphis |
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On Sep 5, 12:05*pm, "Mike Lucas" wrote:
"Art Unwin" wrote -massive drivel snip- *Without acceptance of such we only have self perceived experts in the hobby of ham radio. Happy days Art Unwin KB9MZ...........xg Art: I checked your web page... soooo glad to see that you've corrected the errors, and have posted only what you KNOW about antennas! Mike W5CHR Memphis What I "know": is what I can prove that is correct using accepted known Universal laws such as the laws of Newton and Maxwell as taught universally. I will provide all of this when I get the go ahead for my page. If you can disprove without doubt what I state as a viable theory you can shatter by providing evidence where the theory does not hold. This is the way science progreses and not by stoking the fire and exercising a loose mouth Maybe it is a mistake coming back and sharing information on antennas when all that is required is a target for the uninformed Regards Art Unwin KB9MZ.........xg Art. |
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On Sep 4, 11:45*pm, wrote:
Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 4, 9:45?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: In Switzerland on the 10th of this month they are going to project a particle thru the Earths crust at the speed of light. The particle that they are projecting comes from outer space. Well actually they are going project 2 locally generated proton beams around a giant circle at 99.99% the speed of light so that they collide. But don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. So what does this have to do with antennas? Nothing. Low energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space Actually, high energy particles are in abundance on Earth as they are in space, they are called cosmic rays, but again don't let easily verifiable facts get in your way. but they obtain their own magnetic field as they enter the earths arbitrary field and settle on such things as antennas made from a diamagnetic material! And thus we have completed our journey to la-la land. Hope you enjoyed the trip. snip remaining babble -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. When one referes to Cosmic rays it really shows that he is uninformed. Informed people would call it an accumullation of particles that continually bombard our earth some of which release their energy when collisions occur with the earths magnetic field. Wrong, the term "cosmic rays" is a misnomer as they are actually individually arriving partcles, about 90% of which are protons, 9% are helium nuclei or alpha particles and about 1% are electrons. They collide with the molecules of the atmosphere and produce a cascade of lighter particles. Such particles are usually clumps bounded together by the force of colour that is released in the form of an Aurora where some speculate it *is that that feeds energy to the weather clouds of Earth that provides time varying magnetic fields which can create tornadoes as a form of eddy current. Those that bombard or float thru the earth's boundary are in single particle form and rest on surfaces that will not absorb them into their overall atomic pattern. Since the earth is more than 95% diagmatic they can really settle anywhere. Utter, babbling nonsense. Cosmic rays arrive individually and are not clumped. It is these particles that I am refering to and that is not babble unless you can prove otherwise. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_...www.auger.org/ Want more proof you are babbling nonsense? These same particles cannot radiate in space under their own means but only when under the earth's gravitational influence and where the anti gravity forces become a reality.(Newton's law in action) More babbling nonsense. The particles come from space. Gravity has little influence on them. There is no such thing as "the anti gravity forces". The velocities and energies are such that Newtonian physics doesn't apply and you are forced to use relativistic physics. If you are not aware of the particular experiment that I was referring to then your posting was intended to cause anger *because of the absence of anything that could be seen as adding to a conversation in a polite manner. There is no such experiment. www.cern.ch -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. Jim, following your advice I just entered "cern" in Google. It immediately states as correct everything I have stated in detail except for the identity of the "weak" force which I have subsequently discovered. If CERN provides such an outline of the progress on present day science and the path that they are proceding upon then on what premise do you have to advise others that all that it states is false? I recommend that all viewers do the same as I just did and decide whether you are correct in the face of what "cern" states ! I see no point in continueing this thread for the benefit of loose mouths Art |
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On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 11:11:35 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin wrote:
On Sep 4, 11:45 Jim Pennino wrote: www.cern.ch Jim, following your advice I just entered "cern" in Google. |
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Art Unwin wrote:
Jim, following your advice I just entered "cern" in Google. Yeah, sure, that's what I said. It immediately states as correct everything I have stated in detail Yeah, sure, of course it does. Yeah, you're genius all right; sane too. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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On Sep 5, 2:25*pm, wrote:
Art Unwin wrote: Jim, following your advice I just entered "cern" in Google. Yeah, sure, that's what I said. It immediately states as correct everything I have stated in detail Yeah, sure, of course it does. Yeah, you're genius all right; sane too. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. If I am a genius it is only by comparison to the likes of you. Put in "cern"in google where the first item that comes up is Cern's stated purposes where they specifically state there are four forces in the standard model So your idea that the "weak" force is fictitious as well as a swarm of particles should be referred to as cosmic "rays" whatever "rays" are totally incorrect as well as your other statements. Other readers can review the article and judge for themselves your level of knoweledge in physics and radiation. Remember, when you exercise your freedom of free speech you supply the means for others to judge exactly what and who you really are. You would have been better off giving the reasons why the weak force is fictitious thus showing a measure of your logic abilities rather than allowing your lack of knoweledge forcing you to rely emotionaly on the impact of insults! Art......nuf aid |
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On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:53:28 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote: Put in "cern"in google How silly when Jim already supplied the direct link: www.cern.ch Cern's stated purposes where they specifically state there are four forces in the standard model From CERN itself: CERN’s mission Research, technology, collaboration, education found on CERN's own web page "About us" where nowhere appears any references to any number of forces, nor any discussion of standard models. a swarm of particles should be referred to as cosmic "rays" whatever "rays" are totally incorrect Searching CERN's own website for Cosmic Rays reveals 12 documents within the first one of which clearly states: Cosmic rays are charged particles that bombard the Earth's atmosphere from outer space. The second of those 12 articles, in the FIRST SENTENCE states: The giant CMS particle detector at CERN has been sealed and switched on to collect data for an important series of tests using cosmic ray particles. The third of those 12 articles, in the FIRST SENTENCE states: Cosmic particles are raining down on CERN. The fourth of those 12 articles, in the FIRST SENTENCE 2nd paragraph states: Cosmic rays are charged particles that bombard the Earth's atmosphere from outer space. and on and on. Other readers can review the article and judge for themselves your level of knoweledge in physics and radiation. how true. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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Art Unwin wrote:
On Sep 5, 2:25?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: Jim, following your advice I just entered "cern" in Google. Yeah, sure, that's what I said. It immediately states as correct everything I have stated in detail Yeah, sure, of course it does. Yeah, you're genius all right; sane too. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. Put in "cern"in google where the first item that comes up is Cern's Or you could have gone directly to www.cern.ch like I told you at least 4 times. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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On Sep 5, 6:15*pm, wrote:
Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 5, 2:25?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: Jim, following your advice I just entered "cern" in Google. Yeah, sure, that's what I said. It immediately states as correct everything I have stated in detail Yeah, sure, of course it does. Yeah, you're genius all right; sane too. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. Put in "cern"in google where the first item that comes up is Cern's Or you could have gone directly towww.cern.chlike I told you at least 4 times. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. READERS CLICK ON THIS FOR THE TRUTH http//info.web.cern.ch/public/en/Science/StandardModel- en.html is what I got. I believe it represents the truth. Cosmic rays is supplanted by a swarm of active particles so no correction required. They show disbelief of the weak force being science fiction plus there are four forces in the Standard model In fact it exposes both of you as liers intent on deceiving the readers Shame on both of you Art |
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On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote: On Sep 5, 6:15*pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 5, 2:25?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: In fact it exposes both of you as liers intent on deceiving the readers Shame on both of you Both of you? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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Art Unwin wrote:
On Sep 5, 6:15?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 5, 2:25?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: Jim, following your advice I just entered "cern" in Google. Yeah, sure, that's what I said. It immediately states as correct everything I have stated in detail Yeah, sure, of course it does. Yeah, you're genius all right; sane too. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. Put in "cern"in google where the first item that comes up is Cern's Or you could have gone directly towww.cern.chlike I told you at least 4 times. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. READERS CLICK ON THIS FOR THE TRUTH You wouldn't recognize truth if it smacked you in the forehead with a two by four. Why did you edit what I wrote, you babbling lunatic? -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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On Sep 4, 9:25*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
So what does this have to do with antennas? Regards Art * * KB9MZ...........xg Midi-chlorians (also spelled "midi-clorians" or "midichlorians") are a microorganism in the fictional Star Wars galaxy, first mentioned in Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace. They are microscopic life-forms that reside within the cells of all living things and communicate with the Force. Midi-chlorians compose a collective consciousness and intelligence, forming links between everything living and the Force. They are symbionts with all other living things; that is, without them, life could not exist. The Jedi have learned how to listen to and coordinate the midi-chlorians. In order to be a Jedi or a Sith, one must have a high concentration of midi-chlorians in one's cells. The word "midi-chlorian" appears to be a portmanteau of "mitochondrion" and "chloroplast", two organelles found in real cells and thought to have evolved from bacteria as endosymbionts inside other cells, as purported in the endosymbiotic theory. Creator George Lucas has indeed stated that the midi-chlorians are based on the endosymbiotic theory (Rolling Stone, June 2005), and it appears that in the story of Anakin Skywalker, he wanted to create a more modern "virgin birth" in the Star Wars saga that was as much based in "science" (albeit fictional) as in philosophy and religion, with the mythic "givers of life" being microscopic life-forms, rather than gods. An ancient prophecy foretold the appearance of a chosen one imbued with a high concentration of midi-chlorians, strong with the Force, and destined to alter it forever. Anakin Skywalker was thought to be the one. He had the highest concentration of midi-chlorians the Jedi Council had ever seen. He was possibly conceived by the midi-chlorians; Anakin was born without the assistance of a male. Lucas has said in interviews that Luke Skywalker had the same total midi-chlorian count that Anakin did at birth, though this does not necessarily make him the Chosen one because Anakin did exactly what the prophecy foretold by coming back from the Dark Side and destroying Emperor Palpatine. In Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, Palpatine states that a Sith Lord, Darth Plagueis, had the ability to use the Dark Side to influence midi-chlorians to create life and to prevent people from dying. The Force can enhance natural physical and mental natural abilities, including enhancing strength (such as during a 'Force jump' or to slow a fall from an otherwise dangerous height) and accuracy as when Luke Skywalker was able to launch proton torpedoes into a small thermal exhaust port on the Death Star. A number of other force powers are demonstrated, those include but are not limited to telekinesis, telepathy, enhanced empathy and precognition. The Jedi were also able to influence and control the minds of others by making use of the Jedi mind trick. The Sith can sometimes use the Force to create harmful energy to attack others. Darth Sidious, 'the Emperor' is able to conjure a lightning-like attack using the force. Within the Star Wars expanded universe, a number of other powers have been demonstrated, those include the ability to heal or drain the life-force of others, increase resistance to attack, dissipate energy attacks and warp space. |
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On Sep 5, 9:05*pm, wrote:
Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 5, 6:15?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 5, 2:25?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: Jim, following your advice I just entered "cern" in Google. Yeah, sure, that's what I said. It immediately states as correct everything I have stated in detail Yeah, sure, of course it does. Yeah, you're genius all right; sane too. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. Put in "cern"in google where the first item that comes up is Cern's Or you could have gone directly towww.cern.chlikeI told you at least 4 times. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. READERS CLICK ON THIS FOR THE TRUTH You wouldn't recognize truth if it smacked you in the forehead with a two by four. Why did you edit what I wrote, you babbling lunatic? -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. "edit" ? What on earth are you talking about? I am still waiting for an answer why you believe the "weak" force is ficticious. What proof do you have? I gave an explanation of it in a series of examples that are in use today which explained radiation. It shows the procedure which can also be accompanied by mathematical proof using the laws of the masters and the antennas can be made quite easily if one wants to use a test range which usually come under fire from naysayers. Is there only three forces in a standard model or can you quote the presence of more? Your postings supply zero content to support your beliefs. All we are getting from you is expressions of emotion and anger that is shielding your brain from activity. I think it is better that I leave again for a while so the newsgroup can sink back to inactivity but I will come back......I think! Have a very happy day with the belief that you were correct in every way in this dual on physics since nobody but I found fault with you. Ofcourse the "weak" force is fictitious the experts on the group provided nothing to show you are in error so you are in the company of like thinkers. Put your 2 by 4 away I am running away scared to death Regards Art |
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Roy Lewallen wrote:
When directly quoting something written by someone else, it's good form as well as common courtesy to give credit to the source. The first clue here was the use of "portmanteau", not a word I would expect to be in an original posting in this newsgroup except perhaps from Richard Clark. Roy Lewallen, W7EL ... ABSOLUTELY! I would also expect "everything but the kitchen sink" also (well, if there was a kitchen sink in the mess, it would not be that surprising), in a post by richard--along with a little Shakespeare for good measure! When you are right, you are RIGHT! Regards, JS -- It is like a nightmare where the public servants are the people which the police are supposed to protect us from! |
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Art Unwin wrote:
On Sep 5, 9:05?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 5, 6:15?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 5, 2:25?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: Jim, following your advice I just entered "cern" in Google. Yeah, sure, that's what I said. It immediately states as correct everything I have stated in detail Yeah, sure, of course it does. Yeah, you're genius all right; sane too. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. Put in "cern"in google where the first item that comes up is Cern's Or you could have gone directly towww.cern.chlikeI told you at least 4 times. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. READERS CLICK ON THIS FOR THE TRUTH You wouldn't recognize truth if it smacked you in the forehead with a two by four. Why did you edit what I wrote, you babbling lunatic? -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. "edit" ? What on earth are you talking about? You are so far gone you haven't a clue what you did. snip senile babble -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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wrote in message ... Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 5, 6:15?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 5, 2:25?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: Jim, following your advice I just entered "cern" in Google. Yeah, sure, that's what I said. It immediately states as correct everything I have stated in detail Yeah, sure, of course it does. Yeah, you're genius all right; sane too. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. Put in "cern"in google where the first item that comes up is Cern's Or you could have gone directly towww.cern.chlike I told you at least 4 times. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. READERS CLICK ON THIS FOR THE TRUTH You wouldn't recognize truth if it smacked you in the forehead with a two by four. Why did you edit what I wrote, you babbling lunatic? art is just pulling everyone's leg with techno babble. note how it changes with new news and how he latches on to meaningless terms. of course the weak force has nothing to do with electromagnetic waves and antennas, but because it got mentioned in something and is sometimes termed the electro-weak force he fits it into his fantasy world. may the farce be with you art... and keep writing, the wx is bad over here today and getting worse so we could use some entertainment... maybe try to link up the possible effects of beta decay caused by the weak force with your diamagnetic seeking anti gravity particles, that might be fun. |
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Dave wrote:
wrote in message ... Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 5, 6:15?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 5, 2:25?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: Jim, following your advice I just entered "cern" in Google. Yeah, sure, that's what I said. It immediately states as correct everything I have stated in detail Yeah, sure, of course it does. Yeah, you're genius all right; sane too. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. Put in "cern"in google where the first item that comes up is Cern's Or you could have gone directly towww.cern.chlike I told you at least 4 times. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. READERS CLICK ON THIS FOR THE TRUTH You wouldn't recognize truth if it smacked you in the forehead with a two by four. Why did you edit what I wrote, you babbling lunatic? art is just pulling everyone's leg with techno babble. note how it changes with new news and how he latches on to meaningless terms. of course the weak force has nothing to do with electromagnetic waves and antennas, but because it got mentioned in something and is sometimes termed the electro-weak force he fits it into his fantasy world. may the farce be with you art... and keep writing, the wx is bad over here today and getting worse so we could use some entertainment... maybe try to link up the possible effects of beta decay caused by the weak force with your diamagnetic seeking anti gravity particles, that might be fun. The diamagnetic reference proves he's in leg-pulling mode, and not just being psychotic. Nice try, Art. 73, Tom Donaly, KA6RUH |
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On Sep 6, 11:40*am, "Tom Donaly" wrote:
Dave wrote: wrote in message ... Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 5, 6:15?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: On Sep 5, 2:25?pm, wrote: Art Unwin wrote: Jim, following your advice I just entered "cern" in Google. Yeah, sure, that's what I said. It immediately states as correct everything I have stated in detail Yeah, sure, of course it does. Yeah, you're genius all right; sane too. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. Put in "cern"in google where the first item that comes up is Cern's Or you could have gone directly towww.cern.chlikeI told you at least 4 times. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. READERS CLICK ON THIS FOR THE TRUTH You wouldn't recognize truth if it smacked you in the forehead with a two by four. Why did you edit what I wrote, you babbling lunatic? art is just pulling everyone's leg with techno babble. *note how it changes with new news and how he latches on to meaningless terms. *of course the weak force has nothing to do with electromagnetic waves and antennas, but because it got mentioned in something and is sometimes termed the electro-weak force he fits it into his fantasy world. *may the farce be with you art... and keep writing, the wx is bad over here today and getting worse so we could use some entertainment... maybe try to link up the possible effects of beta decay caused by the weak force with your diamagnetic seeking anti gravity particles, that might be fun. The diamagnetic reference proves he's in leg-pulling mode, and not just being psychotic. Nice try, Art. 73, Tom Donaly, KA6RUH Tom A diamagnetic material ( over 90% of the elements on earth are diamagnetic) does not absorb a free or non bonded electron into the subatomic structure of the element! So the many types of particles that enter the earth's atmosphere can safely settle or be at rest. Many particles arrive every second, some with spin which means they have a straight line velocity while others arrive with little or no spin and thus wander thru out the stratosphere and some will get propelled by solar winds. These particles number in the multi millions per cu metre on earth but are so small and with little energy that they are difficult to detect in science. One of these particles consist of small energy which escapes from the Sun similar to smoke where the" energy less" particles are carried away without particular direction. But on entering the earth's boundary they do become magnetized on a very small scale from the presence of the earths magnetic field as they float down to rest on the multiple diamagnetic materials on earth, which also includes water on the ground and airborne droplets This is why the term diamagnetic is so important in the science of particles and radiation bearing in mind that minute particles from the Sun have a very short nuclear life which is why the Sun expelled them in the first place! So Tom, the reference of diamagnetic is not a form of " leg pulling " or a maniacle uttering but an important part of radiation and antenna phenomina. Very best regards Art Unwin KB9MZ........xg |
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"Art Unwin" wrote in message ... the weak farce is strong in you... may the farce be with you... sorry, no time for more bad puns today, wx is too nice to sit in front of the computer. |
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On Sep 7, 1:30*pm, "Dave" wrote:
"Art Unwin" wrote in message ... the weak farce is strong in you... may the farce be with you... sorry, no time for more bad puns today, wx is too nice to sit in front of the computer. You should note that one of the particles I referred to is the neutrino which is oft times referred to an off spring of the big "W" which must certainly occur while contained within the arbitrary boundary of the Sun or solely in the mind of Feynman. The word neutrino will supply energy to the upcomming naysayers as always who will confirm that all is known about the Universe and the antenna radiation phenomina Art |
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"Art Unwin" wrote in message ... On Sep 7, 1:30 pm, "Dave" wrote: "Art Unwin" wrote in message nothing worth commenting about... take another pill and go to bed art, it will all be ok in the morning. |
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Art,
To the best of my knowledge, the only time I have ever seen the phrase "all is known about __(insert word of choice)__" is when you have used it. I haven't seen it used in connection with anything except when you use it. Can you give reference to two examples of this phrase being used concerning radio, antennas, or physics? I would appreciate it. - 'Doc |
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On Sep 7, 6:47*pm, John Smith wrote:
wrote: Art, * *To the best of my knowledge, the only time I have ever seen the phrase "all is known about __(insert word of choice)__" is when you have used it. *I haven't seen it used in connection with anything except when you use it. *Can you give reference to two examples of this phrase being used concerning radio, antennas, or physics? *I would appreciate it. *- 'Doc Where do these idiots come from, and what entertainment do they think they provide me/us--even in their weak arguments which speak insanity? What flood-gates have opened which has released such a black plague on this earth and this new group in particular? *:-( Regards, JS -- It is like a nightmare where the public servants are the people which the police are supposed to protect us from! John, When in conversation with Hately of cross field claims he told me of the difficulty of getting the chance to explain his inventive antenna to the IEEE international meeting. He told me that he got the brush off with the statement that antennas has been studied to death and all is known about antennas. When I tried to share my ideas on antennas to the antenna laboratory of the University of ILLINOIS I pretty much received the same brush off so I believe professor Hately comments. When I share my hobby with people on this newsgroup I pretty much get the same reception tho in the case of this newsgroup you cannot have a conversation on the physics of antennas as many never made it thru a physics class!. Just a few days ago it was suggested that the weak force was just fantasy and the idea of particles involved in radiation was laughable. Some time ago this group was universal in denying the mathematical quality of extending a Gaussian to that of Maxwell so the resposes that you get can be measured against those in terms of quality.Some months ago I spoke about the fact that antennas such as a verticle must be tipped to achieve maximum gain. No curiousity just laughter and rude comments and one stated we don't need a new design antenna as we all ready have one.This inspite of the fact that Naval antennas in one sea port have universly tipped all their antennas for quality reception! Does the U.S. navy do silly things like tipping antennas without attaining irefutable facts? So with the above comments you cannot expect any questions reflecting curiousity about science and antennas as just like those of lower interlect or education who cannot find the words that are needed resort to swear words and insults to display a measure of testerone in the absence of brain power. The days have gone when radio hams became members of the group in search of the new science of radio propagation as now all is needed isan instruction on how to turn on the radio so talking heads can rattle without curiousity of the means to do it. But don't dispare, there are hams around of the old school it just happens that they do not dwell on this newsgroup as most want intelligent return with respect to conversation. If there was respect on this newsgroup we could all learn and advance but there are many that are limited in that respect and resort to actions that display testerone instead similar to the gang make up in our cities where the communities are not now self sustaining leaving rubble for self perceived desired turf. Best regards Art |
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Art Unwin wrote:
... John, When in conversation with Hately of cross field claims he told me of the difficulty of getting the chance to explain his inventive antenna to the IEEE international meeting. He told me that he got the brush off with the statement that antennas has been studied to death and all is known about antennas. When I tried to share my ideas on antennas to the antenna laboratory Best regards Art I think it was Cecil who quoted that poor hapless individual who inferred that all would shortly be "KNOWN" and the patent office duly closed in response ... Yeah, I know ... they are "out there" (in more ways than one!) :-) Regards, JS -- It is like a nightmare where the public servants are the people which the police are supposed to protect us from! |
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Art,
So it seems that this phrase was used privately between you and one other person who was not taken 'seriously'. I can believe that. So, this phrase has in fact not been used here on this forum except by you. Is that correct, or am I missing something? - 'Doc JS, Get over it. - 'Doc |
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