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Translate Smith-Chart statement to English?
I recently bought an automatic tuner (I know, I know; I wasted my
money since manual tuners are so easy to build) which could supposedly tune "8-1000" ohms resistance. I first asked the manufacturer if maybe they meant "impedance", and they replied "Yes, thanks for the correction". That lead to a followup question: ( NOTE: My keyboard doesn't have keys for "plus or minus" or "square root" so I'll use "#" and "SQRT()", respectively.) "Does '8-1000 ohms impedance' include ALL COMBINATIONS of #X#jY SUCH THAT SQRT (Xsquare + Ysquare) is in the range of 8 to 1000 (such as #8+j0 to #1000+j0 and 0#j8 to 0#j1000), or are there some "holes" in coverage?" Their response was: " We use the polar coordinate system and it covers all phase angles at 14 MHz. Obviously, plotted on a smith chart you would see the range decrease as you depart from 14 MHz." I haven't used a Smith Chart since I was first introduced to them in college (1963!-() Could someone please translate their response to simple English that I can understand. In particular, what range of impedances might their tuner cover on 80 meters? 40 meters? 15 meters? 10 meters? |
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Translate Smith-Chart statement to English?
Myron A. Calhoun wrote:
I recently bought an automatic tuner (I know, I know; I wasted my money since manual tuners are so easy to build) which could supposedly tune "8-1000" ohms resistance. I first asked the manufacturer if maybe they meant "impedance", and they replied "Yes, thanks for the correction". That lead to a followup question: ( NOTE: My keyboard doesn't have keys for "plus or minus" or "square root" so I'll use "#" and "SQRT()", respectively.) "Does '8-1000 ohms impedance' include ALL COMBINATIONS of #X#jY SUCH THAT SQRT (Xsquare + Ysquare) is in the range of 8 to 1000 (such as #8+j0 to #1000+j0 and 0#j8 to 0#j1000), or are there some "holes" in coverage?" Their response was: " We use the polar coordinate system and it covers all phase angles at 14 MHz. Obviously, plotted on a smith chart you would see the range decrease as you depart from 14 MHz." I haven't used a Smith Chart since I was first introduced to them in college (1963!-() Could someone please translate their response to simple English that I can understand. In particular, what range of impedances might their tuner cover on 80 meters? 40 meters? 15 meters? 10 meters? The response translates to: "The range is less at other frequencies than at 14 MHz." Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
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Translate Smith-Chart statement to English?
On Sep 11, 8:06*am, "Myron A. Calhoun" wrote:
I recently bought an automatic tuner (I know, I know; I wasted my money since manual tuners are so easy to build) which could supposedly tune "8-1000" ohms resistance. *I first asked the manufacturer if maybe they meant "impedance", and they replied "Yes, thanks for the correction". *That lead to a followup question: ( NOTE: *My keyboard doesn't have keys for "plus or minus" or "square root" so I'll use "#" and "SQRT()", respectively.) "Does '8-1000 ohms impedance' *include ALL COMBINATIONS of #X#jY SUCH THAT SQRT (Xsquare + Ysquare) is in the range of 8 to 1000 (such as #8+j0 to #1000+j0 and 0#j8 to 0#j1000), or are there some "holes" in coverage?" Their response was: " We use the polar coordinate system and it covers all phase angles at 14 MHz. Obviously, plotted on a smith chart you would see the range decrease as you depart from 14 MHz." I haven't used a Smith Chart since I was first introduced to them in college (1963!-() Could someone please translate their response to simple English that I can understand. *In particular, what range of impedances might their tuner cover on 80 meters? *40 meters? *15 meters? *10 meters? Hi Myron, Their response _suggests_ to me that the tuner can match loads inside the circle on the Smith chart that's centered on the real axis and passes through R=8 and R=1000, when used at 14MHz. I guess that's equivalent to loads representing up to about 11:1 SWR in an 89 ohm line. They didn't exactly say that, but it seems a reasonable guess. It does seem like they denied that there would be holes in the coverage. Other than not being able to match as wide a range on other frequencies, their response really doesn't tell me anything about the capabilities away from 14MHz. You might be able to nail them down a bit better if you can get them to tell you what range they can match at 3.5MHz and at 30MHz, or other frequency you particularly care about. Cheers, Tom |
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Translate Smith-Chart statement to English?
Myron A. Calhoun wrote:
"Does '8-1000 ohms impedance' include ALL COMBINATIONS of #X#jY SUCH THAT SQRT (Xsquare + Ysquare) is in the range of 8 to 1000 (such as #8+j0 to #1000+j0 and 0#j8 to 0#j1000), or are there some "holes" in coverage?" This should be a rhetorical question. There is no tuner on earth that will deliver power, i.e. "match" 0+j1000 ohms. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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Translate Smith-Chart statement to English?
On Sep 11, 1:23*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
Myron A. Calhoun wrote: "Does '8-1000 ohms impedance' *include ALL COMBINATIONS of #X#jY SUCH THAT SQRT (Xsquare + Ysquare) is in the range of 8 to 1000 (such as #8+j0 to #1000+j0 and 0#j8 to 0#j1000), or are there some "holes" in coverage?" This should be a rhetorical question. There is no tuner on earth that will deliver power, i.e. "match" 0+j1000 ohms. -- 73, Cecil *http://www.w5dxp.com |
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