On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:14:31 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

Well, ya', an adjustable whip(s) is good, especially with the cost of
copper and the pain in "resoldering your prunings." LOL

Incidentally, one of the tricks I learned (the hard way) was to
replace the mobile whip antenna with a piece of copper electrical
wire. Then cut it to length, tune, optimize, test and whatever. Once
the optimum length is established, replace the copper wire antenna
with the real stainless whip, cut to the exact same length.

You have wine? Why didn't you say so, that changes everything:

The antenna transfer function of wine is highly exponential and very
non-linear. A little wine will produce a superior antenna. However,
incremental increases in wine dosage will tend to have lesser effects.
At some threshold, additional can cause a substantial drop in
performance. It may even go negative. Think equilibrium.

Or, to summarize, the more complex the antenna, the more meters you are
going to need ... LOL

Kinda reminds me of a former tech. All day, he would spend his time
working with the latest state of the art test equipment in the lab.
After hours, he would drag out his ham radio, and tune the xmitter to
maximum using a light bulb dummy load. Attempts to convince him that
the company test equipment might be useful for dealing with his radios
were futile.

If away from my laptop, the programmable calculator is always in my
pocket! (I mean, my gawd man, I have space invaders on it!) straight-face

That doesn't leave much room for the pocket protector. I collect HP
calculators. There are numerous calculators scattered around the
office and house. No need to drag a calculator around.

... some patents are NOT what they used to be ... but then, there has
always been some suspicion about the politics involved, not to mention
courts ...

There's plenty wrong with patents that I don't wanna get into. Suffice
to say that it's very helpful to understand something about patents
before trying to create one. I'm just suggesting that you make the
effort to read patents.

Groan. I decide to stay home today to recover from my home cooking.
Outside, PG&E (the power company) and the local tree service just
arrived. There goes my power...





--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sep 18, 4:51*pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:14:31 -0700, John Smith

wrote:
Well, ya', an adjustable whip(s) is good, especially with the cost of
copper and the pain in "resoldering your prunings." *LOL

Incidentally, one of the tricks I learned (the hard way) was to
replace the mobile whip antenna with a piece of copper electrical
wire. *Then cut it to length, tune, optimize, test and whatever. *Once
the optimum length is established, replace the copper wire antenna
with the real stainless whip, cut to the exact same length.

You have wine? *Why didn't you say so, that changes everything:

The antenna transfer function of wine is highly exponential and very
non-linear. *A little wine will produce a superior antenna. *However,
incremental increases in wine dosage will tend to have lesser effects.
At some threshold, additional can cause a substantial drop in
performance. *It may even go negative. *Think equilibrium.

Or, to summarize, the more complex the antenna, the more meters you are
going to need ... LOL

Kinda reminds me of a former tech. *All day, he would spend his time
working with the latest state of the art test equipment in the lab.
After hours, he would drag out his ham radio, and tune the xmitter to
maximum using a light bulb dummy load. *Attempts to convince him that
the company test equipment might be useful for dealing with his radios
were futile.

If away from my laptop, the programmable calculator is always in my
pocket! (I mean, my gawd man, I have space invaders on it!) *straight-face

That doesn't leave much room for the pocket protector. *I collect HP
calculators. *There are numerous calculators scattered around the
office and house. *No need to drag a calculator around.

... some patents are NOT what they used to be ... but then, there has
always been some suspicion about the politics involved, not to mention
courts ...

There's plenty wrong with patents that I don't wanna get into. Suffice
to say that it's very helpful to understand something about patents
before trying to create one. *I'm just suggesting that you make the
effort to read patents.

Groan. *I decide to stay home today to recover from my home cooking.
Outside, PG&E (the power company) and the local tree service just
arrived. *There goes my power...

--
Jeff Liebermann * *
150 Felker St #D * *http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann * * AE6KS * *831-336-2558

Jeff we all make mistakes by over estimating ones ability
In making one of my antennas I made a last minuit change just in time
before I finished the antenna
It was some weeks before that antenna was tested on the air in
Australia
That test proved that reprocity with respect to radiation is not a
given!.
I had neutralised the weak force such that particles could arrive but
not depart!
Yes it was an error on my part but it didn't rule out the value of
experimentationj.
Has anybody got a use for such an antenna?. This error in many ways
provided
proof that the trail I followed was coirrect. This is why I have
delayed the sending of a antenna to AC6XG
as the correction took over some of my free time. But Jim understands
what happened not necessarily why.
as he does have trust and an open mind as well as my respect.
When I supplied an antenna to the U of I I gave them a sample of the
same antenna in Australia
because of their treatment towards me and comments made in advance of
getting the antenna.
Thus I gave them exactly what they expected to get based on pre
examine comments similar to those of this group
He who laughs last laughs longer and forever. Something like getting a
bunch of wire with lip stick all over it
Best regards
Art Unwin....KB9MZ.......xg

"Art Unwin" wrote in message
...
That test proved that reprocity with respect to radiation is not a
given!.
I had neutralised the weak force such that particles could arrive but
not depart!

Now that is worth a nobel prize! publish that and get it peer reviewed in a
respectable physics journal and i will personally nominate you for a nobel!