On Dec 6, 10:37*am, "Dave" wrote:
"Art Unwin" wrote in message

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the inclusion of the "weak" force
required for equilibrium

leave it up to art to take a perfectly good premise and insert utter idiocy
into it. *next he'll be saying that since the magical levitating weak force
neutrinos are jumping off the antenna at an angle to the element that the
polarization is caused by them. *how about it art, can you make your
levitating neutrinos rotate in different directions with left or right hand
circular antennas??

You can have diversity with respect to all polarizations except
circular
where you only have the choice of one. If you believe that antenna
programs
are utter idiocy then that will be inline with your general attitude.
I am sure that some have taken up my suggestion to check for
themselves
instead of resorting to knee jerk reactions with out foundation.
One more fool like you on this newsgroup changes little
Art

"Art Unwin" wrote in message
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You can have diversity with respect to all polarizations except
circular where you only have the choice of one.

why can't you do lhcp and rhcp diversity?

If you believe that antenna programs
are utter idiocy then that will be inline with your general attitude.
I am sure that some have taken up my suggestion to check for
themselves instead of resorting to knee jerk reactions with out foundation.

on the contrary, i believe antenna programs and understand how they work, at
one time i wrote one of my own that did well on designing phased vertical
arrays... and not a single reference to the weak force in it at all! nor
will you find any of the existing antenna modeling programs that use the
weak force. which kind of contradicts your whole rant, you say you believe
in the modeling programs and that they give results that agree with your
corrupted weak force model, and yet they don't use the weak force at all...
never have, and never will. nor can you state where the weak force is
included in Maxwell's equations, which of course all the modeling programs
are based on. so that just leaves you hanging by your magical equilibrium
levitating diamagnetic neutrinos... which you still haven't explained how
they work with my ferromagnetic radiators.

On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:46:16 GMT, "Dave" wrote the
lamentations of a weak mind struggling with the high concepts of an
infinitely Byzantine theory from the laboratories of Ærthur:

on the contrary, i believe antenna programs and understand how they work, at
one time i wrote one of my own that did well on designing phased vertical
arrays... and not a single reference to the weak force in it at all!

It is singularly impossible for them to have not included the weak
force - whose total contribution to the resulting -um- results
registers in the 13th digit to the right of the decimal point.
Dismissing this immense revelation is like arguing that a drowning man
is immune from the effects of a drunk ****ing into the ocean.

nor
will you find any of the existing antenna modeling programs that use the
weak force.

op. cit.

which kind of contradicts your whole rant,

That well may be seeing that Ærthur practices a self reinforcing
argument that exhibits that quality of Æquilibrium: damned if you do,
and damned if you do it again.

you say you believe
in the modeling programs and that they give results that agree with your
corrupted weak force model,

A corrupted weak force, the wæk force?

and yet they don't use the weak force at all...

Of course they do (op. cit.)

never have, and never will.

Always has and always will (I already said that didn't I? (which is
what op. cit. mæns in Lat.))

nor can you state where the weak force is
included in Maxwell's equations,

Ærthur, while rooting in the library stacks of an ancient university
located on the banks of a great (but not grand) lake, he discovered
them in the margins (long neglected as flyspecks on the page due to
their singular characteristic out 13 places to the right). Patents
are pænding, so watch your step.

As we are taxpayers, supporting inventors on the dole, it should be
our full right to be able to examine these hidden documents, but
Ærthur continues to suppress their access.

which of course all the modeling programs
are based on. so that just leaves you hanging by your magical equilibrium
levitating diamagnetic neutrinos... which you still haven't explained how
they work with my ferromagnetic radiators.

The only thing he hasn't explained is the beneficial prosperities of
the color of the color-coded wire. Just as all resistors look the
same except for the colors - and we are all perfectly aware that not
all resistors are the same - hence it is a color thing. (Lest we
diverge into the side topic of wæk resistance, aka Unpedance.)

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard:

[snip]
"Richard Clark" wrote in message
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:46:16 GMT, "Dave" wrote the
lamentations of a weak mind struggling with the high concepts of an
infinitely Byzantine theory from the laboratories of Ærthur:

on the contrary, i believe antenna programs and understand how they work,
at
one time i wrote one of my own that did well on designing phased vertical
arrays... and not a single reference to the weak force in it at all!
..
..
..
73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
[snip]

Hmmmm you guys are just to sceptical of poor Art's "different" biases.

The one eyed man in the land of the blind, indeed.

Have ya'll considered that Art may not be fully occupying our own four-space
and may in fact be operating in several of modern string theory's higher
dimensions.

After all, modern we now know as explained by John Moffat [1], that from the
view of modern Physicists unfettered by actual observation and experiment
that there may be at least 11 of those dimensions available to someone of
Art's calibre and that perhaps... just perhaps, we "flatladers" may not even
be able to comprehend Art's machinations from our own puny four space
viewpoint.

All that said... we've got to get around to viewing emag fields from the
viewpoint of circular components. The universe may well be better
understood when viewed by circular polarization rather than by rectilinear
polarization. No?

[1] John W. Moffat, "Reinventing Gravity", HarperCollins Publishers, New
York, 2008. ISBN: 978-0-06-117088-1. May be found at LC under LCC
QC178.M64 2008.

Cheers!

-- Pete K1PO
-- Indialantic By-the-Sea, FL

On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:10:39 -0500, "Peter O. Brackett"
wrote:

"Reinventing Gravity",

I prefer the original over ersatz.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark wrote:

Ærthur, while rooting in the library stacks of an ancient university
located on the banks of a great (but not grand) lake,

That would be good old Miskatonic U in Arkham?

- 73 d eMike N3LI -

Hmmm... never been there???

-- Pete K1PO


"Michael Coslo" wrote in message
...
Richard Clark wrote:

Ærthur, while rooting in the library stacks of an ancient university
located on the banks of a great (but not grand) lake,

That would be good old Miskatonic U in Arkham?

- 73 d eMike N3LI -

On Dec 6, 12:46*pm, "Dave" wrote:
"Art Unwin" wrote in message

...

You can have diversity with respect to all polarizations except
circular where you only have the choice of one.

why can't you do lhcp and rhcp diversity?

If you believe that antenna programs
are utter idiocy then that will be inline with your general attitude.
I am sure that some have taken up my suggestion to check for
themselves instead of resorting to knee jerk reactions with out foundation.

on the contrary, i believe antenna programs and understand how they work, at
one time i wrote one of my own that did well on designing phased vertical
arrays... and not a single reference to the weak force in it at all! *nor
will you find any of the existing antenna modeling programs that use the
weak force. *which kind of contradicts your whole rant, you say you believe
in the modeling programs and that they give results that agree with your
corrupted weak force model, and yet they don't use the weak force at all....
never have, and never will. *nor can you state where the weak force is
included in Maxwell's equations, which of course all the modeling programs
are based on. *so that just leaves you hanging by your magical equilibrium
levitating diamagnetic neutrinos... which you still haven't explained how
they work with my ferromagnetic radiators.

I explained ferro magnetism and antennas a long time ago where the
weak force becomes swamped
You should be able to come to your own conclusions when evatuating
the effect on the Tank Circuit
With respect to the weak force action it was that addition to Maxwells
laws that provided equilibrium.
Kraus gave an example of it when he empirically created pitch angle
with respect to other parameters
without a full understanding of what created it. In this Universe
there is no such thing as a straight line tho a helicoptor can
simulate it with two rotors at right angles to create equilibrium the
same as a gyroscope or a Sedgeman.
The Universe is contained within an arbitrary border in equilibrium,
you can't get away from that.
The pitch angle that Kraus uses is a creation of the weak force which
thus forbids parallelism
in antenna arrays. If your antenna that you are bragging about
contains parallelism between elements and or the ground surface
then you are NOT obtaining maximum radiation but in fact you are
increasing your losses. You really have a long way to go with respect
to antennas
and the answers you search for are not to be found in Snakesphere that
is muddied to prevent understanding.
As far as antenna programs not using the weak force, that is stupid as
it is what is termed as the "displacement" current a guess arrived at
based on the units required
But rarely do hams use computer programs as initially designed around
Maxwell but instead use a modification of such in following Yagi and
Uda
planar design which is an aproximation. All you have to do is to
provide a one liner to a optimiser to realise you are stating a load
of crap and have reached a point where you cannot handle the truth as
it reveals exactly who and what you are. Some day a knoweledgable
person will arrive on this group and ram a computer sample down your
throat and expose you and the others as just talking heads. Most of
you are like a high school student who wondered into a post graduate
lecture room where all appeared as a torrent of babble until the time
you grew up, if you ever did.
Have a great week end
Art