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Roy Lewallen wrote:
What is the delay through a physically very small toroidal coil with the same inductance as the solenoidal coil? Why? A toroidal coil cannot be modeled using the Dr. Corum formulas. But I will take a stab at the answer. In a physically very small toroidal coil, all the turns are tightly coupled, i.e. the flux caused by one coil links all of the other windings so the delay should be quite small. In any case, one cannot use a current with unchanging phase (referenced to the source phase) to calculate the delay through anything. The only phase information left in a standing wave is in the magnitude. If the current magnitude at the bottom of the coil is 1.0, the phase shift is the ARCCOSine of the current magnitude at the top of the coil for a base-loaded resonant antenna. Actual phase measurements on the current in standing-wave antennas is meaningless. We already know it hardly changes at all with length. EZNEC confirms that statement. In an air-core solenoidal coil, like the one w8ji used, the flux linkage tends to be associated with adjacent turns so all the flux does not link all the coils. Tom's coil was 100 turns, 10 TPI, 2" diameter. The first turn was 10 inches away from the last turn. The delay through that coil calculates out to be about 25 nS. If we setup a 2" transmit coil and a 2" receive coil 10 inches away in air, the energy transfer efficiency would be very small. I don't have a formula for such but I assume one (or more) exists. Bottom line: There are now formulas for calculating the Z0 and VF of large air-core loading coils which are known to be in the family of *slow-wave* devices. I doubt that a toroidal coil is in the family of slow-wave devices. -- 73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com |
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