"tom" wrote
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Art Unwin wrote:
And we have not figured out radio radiation yet, even tho we have a
multitude of formulae from a century ago!

Art, please do not include the majority of us here in your statements.

What you really should be saying is YOU have not figured out EM radiation
yet.

I for one can design and build, with the help of STANDARD TEXTS
(especially those many decades old!), almost any type of antenna or
antenna array anyone could ever need. And it will work exactly as
predicted if one takes into account normal environmental variables, such
as buildings, trees and ground conductivity.

Everybody should see that engineering people know his job.

This isn't unknown unpredictable territory, regardless of your claims,
none of which have been proven, by the way. This stuff works, and we know
how, and it's not the way you claim.

You all know how. You have yours own STANDARD TEXTS. But I do not know the
one thing. Which part of the antenna radiate.
See;
(http://people.seas.harvard.edu/~jone...Hertz_exp.html

"According to theory, if electromagnetic waves were spreading from the
oscillator sparks"

The theory is from XIX century. The oscillating sparks are in the centre of
the Hertz dipole.
What do you assume in your predictions. Are the radio waves radiated from
the end (no current) of an antena or from the places of the wire where the
current is max?
S*

"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
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"tom" wrote
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Art Unwin wrote:
And we have not figured out radio radiation yet, even tho we have a
multitude of formulae from a century ago!
What do you assume in your predictions. Are the radio waves radiated from
the end (no current) of an antena or from the places of the wire where the
current is max?
S*

both, and neither, art's radiation comes from magical levitating
antidiamagnetic neutrinos from the sun that jump off of antennas when the
current flows.

"Dave" wrote
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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
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"tom" wrote
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Art Unwin wrote:
And we have not figured out radio radiation yet, even tho we have a
multitude of formulae from a century ago!
What do you assume in your predictions. Are the radio waves radiated
from the end (no current) of an antena or from the places of the wire
where the current is max?
S*

both, and neither, art's radiation comes from magical levitating
antidiamagnetic neutrinos from the sun that jump off of antennas when the
current flows.

Earlier Art wrote: "For your information you have never built an antenna
that conforms in its
entirety to Maxwell';s laws thus you cannot possibly understand
radiation as presented by Maxwell. For instance, Einstein studied
Maxwell's laws in the hope of finding the properties of the "weak"
force. He failed. He then decided to move away from standard physics
to look at things from another view point but still failed."

So Art is looking for the next theory. It is a good way to know the results
of experiments. Maxwell did not see the antenas. You all do. Tell than us
which part radiate the radio waves.
S*

On Sat, 30 May 2009 18:43:45 +0200, Szczepan Bia?ek
wrote:
"Dave" wrote
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both, and neither,
which part radiate the radio waves.

I can see a struggle developing here between you and Art as to who has
the claim to wear the cap and bells.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

"Richard Clark" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 30 May 2009 18:43:45 +0200, Szczepan Bia?ek
wrote:
"Dave" wrote
.. .
both, and neither,
which part radiate the radio waves.

I can see a struggle developing here between you and Art as to who has
the claim to wear the cap and bells.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

I think Szczepan can take Art in best out of three falls. Neither seems to
have an interest in real world antennas. Perhaps there is a
rec.radio.magicalphysics group they could move to?

Dale W4OP

Dale Parfitt wrote:

"Richard Clark" wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 May 2009 18:43:45 +0200, Szczepan Bia?ek
wrote:
"Dave" wrote
. ..
both, and neither,
which part radiate the radio waves.

I can see a struggle developing here between you and Art as to who has
the claim to wear the cap and bells.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

I think Szczepan can take Art in best out of three falls. Neither seems to
have an interest in real world antennas. Perhaps there is a
rec.radio.magicalphysics group they could move to?

Dale W4OP

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On May 30, 1:55*pm, "Dale Parfitt" wrote:
"Richard Clark" wrote in message

news
On Sat, 30 May 2009 18:43:45 +0200, Szczepan Bia?ek
wrote:
"Dave" wrote
.. .
both, and neither,
which part radiate the radio waves.

I can see a struggle developing here between you and Art as to who has
the claim to wear the cap and bells.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

I think Szczepan can take Art in best out of three falls. Neither seems to
have an interest in real world antennas. Perhaps there is a
rec.radio.magicalphysics group they could move to?

Dale W4OP

Heh I just want you all to keep posting regarding your knowledge of
antennas. The more you post the more you reveal yourselves. I was a
mechanical engineer not a antenna or electrical engineer so I am
struggling just to get on the ladder of knowledge. There are a few
here that feel they are best qualified to judge with respect to
antennas. I just can't make them out. Now we have Tom competing for
the top spot because he has made antennas to work and is anxious to
let everybody know about it Yup 98% efficient he states
That 98% of radiation that went to the wrong place.What has he
accomplished that nobody else has done Now where did that other 2% go
possibly hiding inside the radiator tube? Has he accounted for a
everything involved in the generation of radiation? Does he know what
radiation is and what creates it? Now will somebody explain to me why
the subject
of waves keep coming up when radiation is discussed and do the waves
tip over when they get to their destination and dump dots and dashes
all over the place? Every body is keeping mum as to what creates
radiation because none can answer the question They only can ask
questions to divert the spot light else where. Perhaps the "tide" has
turned with respect to Maxwell and it is time to surf the "waves"!

"Art Unwin" wrote in message
...
I think Szczepan can take Art in best out of three falls. Neither seems
to
have an interest in real world antennas. Perhaps there is a
rec.radio.magicalphysics group they could move to?

not even close, art has him for crackpot theories hands down.

Every body is keeping mum as to what creates
radiation because none can answer the question.

you haven't asked that question, you have stated your theory about magical
levitating anti-diamagnetic neutrinos. according to Maxwell's equations as
supported by detailed observations and calculations over the last 100 years
or more, accelerating charges create radiation.

Art Unwin wrote:
antennas. I just can't make them out. Now we have Tom competing for
the top spot because he has made antennas to work and is anxious to

Me? Compete with people like the Richards, or Roy or the late great
Cebik or any other of the other real pros here? Nonsense. Not even trying.

You are amusing in a kind of Lewis Carroll way. So don't stop. But
don't think the criticism will either, because you are just plain wrong.

tom
K0TAR

Dale Parfitt wrote:

I think Szczepan can take Art in best out of three falls. Neither seems to
have an interest in real world antennas. Perhaps there is a
rec.radio.magicalphysics group they could move to?

Dale W4OP



Well if you took them and added Chris from s.p.fusion, you'd have an
amazing trio. Chris, to be fair, actually builds things and truthfully
reports the results, makes modifications when it again fails, does more
calculations, tries agains, fails again. He just thinks, similar to
Art, that he's the only one that knows the "secret". Well sort of,
you'd have to read his stuff.

tom
K0TAR