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Dear Group: While I attend only now-and-then, it seems as it has been days
since new communications have been posted.

Something might have changed with my ISP or I asserted some secret
instruction.

73, Mac N8TT

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J. Mc Laughlin wrote:
Dear Group: While I attend only now-and-then, it seems as it has been days
since new communications have been posted.

Something might have changed with my ISP or I asserted some secret
instruction.

73, Mac N8TT


You're fine. Sometimes it's just quiet.

Art is in an institution or fresh back with good meds. Others are
probably busy with it being summer. Those of us in the upper midwest
haven't had a "normal" summer yet this year which is just fine by me.
Bring on the drought, bring on more cold summers!

tom
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Art is in an institution or fresh back with good meds. Others are
probably busy with it being summer. Those of us in the upper midwest
haven't had a "normal" summer yet this year which is just fine by me.
Bring on the drought, bring on more cold summers!



Tom, this wierd summer ( or lack of it ) has applied to the Pacific
Northwest, too.... except for the past week.

Ed K7AAT



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"Ed" wrote in message
. 192.196...

Art is in an institution or fresh back with good meds. Others are
probably busy with it being summer. Those of us in the upper midwest
haven't had a "normal" summer yet this year which is just fine by me.
Bring on the drought, bring on more cold summers!



Tom, this wierd summer ( or lack of it ) has applied to the Pacific
Northwest, too.... except for the past week.

Ed K7AAT


but at least all the 'normal' kooks are taking a vacation or got their meds
caught up. sure reduces the noise level in here quite a bit.

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tom wrote:
... bring on more cold summers!


Caused, no doubt, by Global Warming. :-)
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Cecil Moore wrote:
tom wrote:
... bring on more cold summers!


Caused, no doubt, by Global Warming. :-)


Of course, but it's "Climate Change", that way no matter what happens it
the fault of humanity.

On a similar note, has anyone noticed how the sun's output has a lot to
do with the climate? And that it sort of tracks what's going on? Ok,
tracks quite well.

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tom wrote:
On a similar note, has anyone noticed how the sun's output has a lot to
do with the climate? And that it sort of tracks what's going on? Ok,
tracks quite well.


Something else that tracks quite well is the size
of the ice caps at the North Poles of both Earth
and Mars proving, beyond a doubt, that there must
be intelligent life on Mars generating emissions
that effect Climate Change, just like here. :-)
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Cecil Moore wrote:
Something else that tracks quite well is the size
of the ice caps at the North Poles of both Earth
and Mars proving, beyond a doubt, that there must
be intelligent life on Mars generating emissions
that effect Climate Change, just like here. :-)


So what we have proof of here is that alien life exists and is much
further advanced than we are!

I think The President should spend billions of dollars on this!
Actually billions is nothing in this blow money on crap budget, we
should spend a trillion on it. THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!! And there is no
one with more smarts than The President (TM).

tom
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On Jul 31, 8:51*am, Cecil Moore wrote:
tom wrote:
... bring on more cold summers!


Caused, no doubt, by Global Warming. :-)
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73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, *http://www.w5dxp.com


Cecil, your observation regarding the breakage of the ice caps tells
us that we are moving back to a particular climate that in the past
was normal! We can learn about that and past environments by
examining the different layers of ice. The last ice cap to shear
revealed a
reed coracle occupied by people in animal fur holding stone tools.
None of these had green cards which emphasizes what goes around comes
around with additions supplied by man













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Art Unwin wrote:
On Jul 31, 8:51 am, Cecil Moore wrote:
tom wrote:
... bring on more cold summers!

Caused, no doubt, by Global Warming. :-)
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73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com


Cecil, your observation regarding the breakage of the ice caps tells
us that we are moving back to a particular climate that in the past
was normal!


There is no such thing as a normal climate. It changes over time, and
short term is very variable.



We can learn about that and past environments by
examining the different layers of ice. The last ice cap to shear
revealed a
reed coracle occupied by people in animal fur holding stone tools.
None of these had green cards which emphasizes what goes around comes
around with additions supplied by man


Man has no effect upon the weather? Fine, show me the mechanism by which
the retention of heat in the atmosphere is not affect by the percentage
of greenhouse gases and water vapor. We would not exist without the
effect, so discarding the effect is impossible.

So now, WHY is the increased percentage being negated. To show a heat
retention effect is not difficult, middle school students do it all the
time.

But what we get is political statements. A political statement declaring
that the greenhouse effect doesn't exist is just as valid as noting
that since the present administration has been in office, there haven't
been any hurricanes. So therefore, there are less hurricanes when
Democrats are in office. Of course that's a stupid statement. But both
statements are. non-sequitar maximus.

BTW, mining the available data to produce one anomalous result is just
as bogus. The creationists and lunar landing hoaxers have been doing
that for years. You have to produce the theory first, then find
supporting or refuting facts. The deniers don't produce an alternate
theory - they only try to disprove.


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