Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
#15
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:20:48 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: Those old schemes where you quickly switch between antennas work well for voice signals. I've found data channels don't do so well. A "Homer" works fine for continuous uni-directional data. It doesn't work well for half duplex such as Wi-Fi. They're really awful for situations where you hear multiple xmitters with the added bonus of collisions (i.e. packet data). There are workarounds, but all require decoding the data first and using a computah to keep track of which xmitter you're hearing. I was told that it has to do with how the data channels are nearly always at full modulation. One of these days I'm going to hack two radios so they share one local oscillator and see if I can DF based on phase comparison of the last IF output. It will work with one big catch. You'll have to replace the IF crystal filters with one that has a fairly stable group delay across the IF bandwidth. If you're working with data that has modulation components all the way to the edge of the IF filter, you're going to go through huge variations in phase shift between the carrier and the filter skirts. Building two matched receivers just adds to the complexity. OAR (Ocean Applied Research, now part of Cubic) once made an Adcock antenna DF system that had 3 receivers for measuring the phase and displaying the direction on a scope. http://www.cubic.com/cda1/Prod_&_Serv/C4ISR_Prod_&_Sys/DF_Products/df_processors.html http://www.cubic.com/cda1/pdf/aa1319.pdf Personally, I think you would do better with multiple remote receivers and measuring the TDOA (time difference of arrival) at each receiver. Each burst of RF is time coded and packaged along with signal strength, GPS phase, and decoded data, and sent off to a central computah for processing. The time codes are critical as that allows storage, replay, and post processing. Spewing RF around Area 51 is probably a bad idea, so post processing make sense. Collect the time coded data on thumb drives, stuff the data into a computah on your way out, compute, and replay the captured data later. Drivel: If you're thinking of doing it with a Doppler ADF, then please read my previous rants before blundering onward: http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/doppler_notes1.txt http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/doppler_notes2.txt http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/AN-SRD-22/ Those are 15 year old postings about a 35 year old product, but it's still generally accurate. Did you ever build and try the 1090 Mhz AMOS/Franklin antenna? -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Forum | |||
Satelite radio | Shortwave | |||
Satelite 800 vs. ATS 909 | Shortwave | |||
Portable Satelite antenna for FD | Antenna | |||
God Is Watching | Shortwave |