On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:44:30 +0000, EI5DD
wrote:


Would anyone have a copy of an article from either 73 or CQ magazine
somewhere around the 90's which contained an article on how to
construct a Fractal Quad antenna for 10 metres. The design was based on
work done by Nathan Coen N1IR.

Steve (EI5DD)

Popcorn! GET YER HOT BUTTERD POPCORN HERE! Popcorn!

N9JBF
Whisper Does the Buffoon still come around?

"danl" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:44:30 +0000, EI5DD
wrote:


Would anyone have a copy of an article from either 73 or CQ magazine
somewhere around the 90's which contained an article on how to
construct a Fractal Quad antenna for 10 metres. The design was based on
work done by Nathan Coen N1IR.

Steve (EI5DD)

Popcorn! GET YER HOT BUTTERD POPCORN HERE! Popcorn!

N9JBF
Whisper Does the Buffoon still come around?
I don't think he is buffoon, he had an idea that was novel and looks like
he is selling a bunch of them.
Mike

On Dec 6, 7:47*pm, "amdx" wrote:
"danl" wrote in message

... On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:44:30 +0000, EI5DD
wrote:

Would anyone have a copy of an article from either 73 or CQ magazine
somewhere around the 90's which contained an article on how to
construct a Fractal Quad antenna for 10 metres. The design was based on
work done by Nathan Coen N1IR.

Steve (EI5DD)

Popcorn! *GET YER HOT BUTTERD POPCORN HERE! *Popcorn!

N9JBF
Whisper Does the Buffoon still come around?

*I don't think he is buffoon, he had an idea that was novel and looks like
he is selling a bunch of them.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Mike

No he isn't a buffoon, he had a Doctorate! Yes this group did go after
him with insults e.t.c. until he finally left and went into business
leaving the group devoid of experts again. He has several law suits
filed against the biggest phone makers in the world where they were
using his ideas with out his knowlege and not paying for them.If it
is found that he is correct that other phone makers felt they had to
use his ideas to stay in business then it would appear the ideas had
merit.
He wasn't the last antenna expert to leave the insults from this
group,
Tom W8ti was one , Litchfield is another who left, Llewellen rarely
appears now and there were a lot more that left. The pseudo experts
are still here and easily recognisable and there are many a day that
the newbies will not come near this newsgroup to ask a question. No,
Chip was not a buffoon and is laughing all the way to the bank despite
criticism from those from those who decided there was no need to go
to college or even high school because they could holler louder than
anybody else and win.

On Dec 6, 9:20*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
On Dec 6, 7:47*pm, "amdx" wrote:





"danl" wrote in message

.. . On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:44:30 +0000, EI5DD
wrote:

Would anyone have a copy of an article from either 73 or CQ magazine
somewhere around the 90's which contained an article on how to
construct a Fractal Quad antenna for 10 metres. The design was based on
work done by Nathan Coen N1IR.

Steve (EI5DD)

Popcorn! *GET YER HOT BUTTERD POPCORN HERE! *Popcorn!

N9JBF
Whisper Does the Buffoon still come around?

*I don't think he is buffoon, he had an idea that was novel and looks like
he is selling a bunch of them.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Mike

No he isn't a buffoon, he had a Doctorate!

A non sequitur. Look at posts by and decide about
buffoonery. Cohen loved to threaten people. http://opsyhopsy.com/MiscJunk/who_is_nc.htm

On Dec 7, 12:14*pm, Bill wrote:
On Dec 6, 9:20*pm, Art Unwin wrote:



On Dec 6, 7:47*pm, "amdx" wrote:

"danl" wrote in message

.. . On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:44:30 +0000, EI5DD
wrote:

Would anyone have a copy of an article from either 73 or CQ magazine
somewhere around the 90's which contained an article on how to
construct a Fractal Quad antenna for 10 metres. The design was based on
work done by Nathan Coen N1IR.

Steve (EI5DD)

Popcorn! *GET YER HOT BUTTERD POPCORN HERE! *Popcorn!

N9JBF
Whisper Does the Buffoon still come around?

*I don't think he is buffoon, he had an idea that was novel and looks like
he is selling a bunch of them.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Mike

No he isn't a buffoon, he had a Doctorate!

A non sequitur. Look at posts by and decide about
buffoonery. Cohen loved to threaten people.http://opsyhopsy.com/MiscJunk/who_is_nc.htm

He stood up for himself, nothing wrong with that

Art Unwin wrote:
On Dec 7, 12:14 pm, Bill wrote:
On Dec 6, 9:20 pm, Art Unwin wrote:



On Dec 6, 7:47 pm, "amdx" wrote:
"danl" wrote in message
... On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:44:30 +0000, EI5DD
wrote:
Would anyone have a copy of an article from either 73 or CQ magazine
somewhere around the 90's which contained an article on how to
construct a Fractal Quad antenna for 10 metres. The design was based on
work done by Nathan Coen N1IR.
Steve (EI5DD)
Popcorn! GET YER HOT BUTTERD POPCORN HERE! Popcorn!
N9JBF
Whisper Does the Buffoon still come around?
I don't think he is buffoon, he had an idea that was novel and looks like
he is selling a bunch of them.
Mike
No he isn't a buffoon, he had a Doctorate!
A non sequitur. Look at posts by and decide about
buffoonery. Cohen loved to threaten people.http://opsyhopsy.com/MiscJunk/who_is_nc.htm

He stood up for himself, nothing wrong with that


What I'm curious about is what exactly does he own? Does he own the
fractal patterns? the formula to derive the fractal patters. Just what?
The Madelbort and Julia sets? If it the above, I'm outta here to go get
a patent on Pi and all it's applications.


- 73 de Mike N3LI -

"Bill" wrote in message
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On Dec 6, 9:20 pm, Art Unwin wrote:
On Dec 6, 7:47 pm, "amdx" wrote:





"danl" wrote in message

.. . On Sun, 6 Dec 2009
10:44:30 +0000, EI5DD
wrote:

Would anyone have a copy of an article from either 73 or CQ magazine
somewhere around the 90's which contained an article on how to
construct a Fractal Quad antenna for 10 metres. The design was based
on
work done by Nathan Coen N1IR.

Steve (EI5DD)

Popcorn! GET YER HOT BUTTERD POPCORN HERE! Popcorn!

N9JBF
Whisper Does the Buffoon still come around?

I don't think he is buffoon, he had an idea that was novel and looks
like
he is selling a bunch of them.
Mike

No he isn't a buffoon, he had a Doctorate!

A non sequitur. Look at posts by and decide about
buffoonery. Cohen loved to threaten people.
http://opsyhopsy.com/MiscJunk/who_is_nc.htm

I was threatened with a lawyer by him in the 90's simply because I
questioned his theory.
He made no attempts to befriend the group.

GeorgeC

On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:20:17 -0800 (PST), Art Unwin
wrote:

He wasn't the last antenna expert to leave the insults from this
group,

Ever consider what motivates the real experts to spend their time
answering questions? I'm certainly no expert, but I do try to answer
what little I can. For me it's learning something new and a karma
boost in helping others learn and understand. Passing on my
experiences and knowledge and all that.

Now, contrast that with the signal to noise ratio of this group. There
isn't any question or discussion that doesn't get derailed into
politics, philosophy, and some really off the wall physics. The
dedicated experts will try to untangle the mess, and inject some
reality into the discussion, with little results. All the time and
effort spent in honestly answering on topic questions gets lost and
wasted in the apparently endless and useless pseudo science
discussions, none of which have any obvious applications to antennas.
Little wonder the experts get tired of wasting their time, and go
elsewhere.

I have some ideas on how to solve the problem, but since I'm sometimes
part of the problem, I'll leave my foot in my mouth where it belongs.
I suggest you also reflect on whether you're part of the solution or
part of the problem.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
I have some ideas on how to solve the problem, but since I'm sometimes
part of the problem, I'll leave my foot in my mouth where it belongs.
I suggest you also reflect on whether you're part of the solution or
part of the problem.

Or to inject some more meaningless physics, part of the precipitate?

:-)

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM

On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:19:04 +0000 (UTC), "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"
wrote:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
I have some ideas on how to solve the problem, but since I'm sometimes
part of the problem, I'll leave my foot in my mouth where it belongs.
I suggest you also reflect on whether you're part of the solution or
part of the problem.

Or to inject some more meaningless physics, part of the precipitate?
Geoff.

More like natural philosophy or possibly fizzix. It's also more like
flocculation than precipitation. With a precipitate, all the rot just
settles to other bottom, where it's easy to separate and identify.
With flocculation, the rubbish seems to appear out of nowhere and turn
into flakes, while the topic of discussion remains suspended in
solution.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flocculation

Let he who is free of off-topic, irrelevant, pseudo-science, and
useless comments, cast the first follow up.


--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558