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Would anyone have a copy of an article from either 73 or CQ magazine somewhere around the 90's which contained an article on how to construct a Fractal Quad antenna for 10 metres. The design was based on work done by Nathan Coen N1IR.

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Would anyone have a copy of an article from either 73 or CQ magazine
somewhere around the 90's which contained an article on how to
construct a Fractal Quad antenna for 10 metres. The design was based on
work done by Nathan Coen N1IR.

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Would anyone have a copy of an article from either 73 or CQ magazine
somewhere around the 90's which contained an article on how to
construct a Fractal Quad antenna for 10 metres. The design was based on
work done by Nathan Coen N1IR.

Steve (EI5DD)

IIRC, he had the design posted on his webpage and perhaps in QEX. I don't
remember him ever giving details to QST or to this group, but he did
eventually provide construction details on a "fractal vertical". Brings
back memories of spirited discussions.
--Wayne
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On Dec 6, 5:44*am, EI5DD wrote:
Would anyone have a copy of an article from either 73 or CQ magazine
somewhere around the 90's which contained an article on how to
construct a Fractal Quad antenna for 10 metres. The design was based on
work done by Nathan Coen N1IR.

Steve (EI5DD)

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Maybe this link could help?

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7019695-0-large.jpg
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Would anyone have a copy of an article from either 73 or CQ magazine
somewhere around the 90's which contained an article on how to
construct a Fractal Quad antenna for 10 metres. The design was based on
work done by Nathan Coen N1IR.

Steve (EI5DD)




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I remember seeing a construction article, but not sure where.
I looked through my Communications Quarterlys and found summer 1995
has an article "Fractal Antennas Part 1, Introduction and the Fractal Quad"
You might be able to build an antenna from the article, I couldn't.
They sell the article here.
http://www.fractenna.com/nca_reprint.html
I don't know if part two was ever printed.
Chip took a lot of heat about this idea, probably would have
saved himself a lot of grief if he would have skipped the whole ham thing
and just started marketing them as shrunken antennas.
Mike




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On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:44:30 +0000, EI5DD
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Would anyone have a copy of an article from either 73 or CQ magazine
somewhere around the 90's which contained an article on how to
construct a Fractal Quad antenna for 10 metres. The design was based on
work done by Nathan Coen N1IR.

Steve (EI5DD)


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I don't think he is buffoon, he had an idea that was novel and looks like
he is selling a bunch of them.
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On Dec 6, 7:47*pm, "amdx" wrote:
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... On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:44:30 +0000, EI5DD
wrote:


Would anyone have a copy of an article from either 73 or CQ magazine
somewhere around the 90's which contained an article on how to
construct a Fractal Quad antenna for 10 metres. The design was based on
work done by Nathan Coen N1IR.


Steve (EI5DD)


Popcorn! *GET YER HOT BUTTERD POPCORN HERE! *Popcorn!


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*I don't think he is buffoon, he had an idea that was novel and looks like
he is selling a bunch of them.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Mike


No he isn't a buffoon, he had a Doctorate! Yes this group did go after
him with insults e.t.c. until he finally left and went into business
leaving the group devoid of experts again. He has several law suits
filed against the biggest phone makers in the world where they were
using his ideas with out his knowlege and not paying for them.If it
is found that he is correct that other phone makers felt they had to
use his ideas to stay in business then it would appear the ideas had
merit.
He wasn't the last antenna expert to leave the insults from this
group,
Tom W8ti was one , Litchfield is another who left, Llewellen rarely
appears now and there were a lot more that left. The pseudo experts
are still here and easily recognisable and there are many a day that
the newbies will not come near this newsgroup to ask a question. No,
Chip was not a buffoon and is laughing all the way to the bank despite
criticism from those from those who decided there was no need to go
to college or even high school because they could holler louder than
anybody else and win.
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"EI5DD" wrote in message
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Would anyone have a copy of an article from either 73 or CQ magazine
somewhere around the 90's which contained an article on how to
construct a Fractal Quad antenna for 10 metres. The design was based on
work done by Nathan Coen N1IR.

Steve (EI5DD)




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EI5DD

I remember seeing a construction article, but not sure where.
I looked through my Communications Quarterlys and found summer 1995
has an article "Fractal Antennas Part 1, Introduction and the Fractal
Quad"
You might be able to build an antenna from the article, I couldn't.
They sell the article here.
http://www.fractenna.com/nca_reprint.html
I don't know if part two was ever printed.
Chip took a lot of heat about this idea, probably would have
saved himself a lot of grief if he would have skipped the whole ham thing
and just started marketing them as shrunken antennas.
Mike

I found a Comm Quarterly index, Chip has more Fractal articles.
summer 1995, spring 1996, summer 1996 and winter 1996.
I dont know if any are construction articles.
Mike


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Dear Group:

Dr. Nathan Cohen

See also US Patents: (some may have been missed) (just antenna related)
6104349
6140975
6127977
6445352
6452553
6476766
6985122
7019695
7126537
7145513
7190318
7215290
7256751
7345642
7456799

and perhaps five published applications

This set must have cost a serious amount of money.

73, Mac N8TT

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J. Mc Laughlin wrote:
Dear Group:

Dr. Nathan Cohen

See also US Patents: (some may have been missed) (just antenna related)
6104349
6140975
6127977
6445352
6452553
6476766
6985122
7019695
7126537
7145513
7190318
7215290
7256751
7345642
7456799

and perhaps five published applications

This set must have cost a serious amount of money.

73, Mac N8TT


What those patents cost to get would make a handsome annual salary.
Especially if any were initially rejected.

tom
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