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[email protected] July 28th 10 02:02 AM

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Richard Clark wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:38:10 -0000, wrote:

If the insulation is infinitely thick, there is no outside of the insulation
where radiation can occur.

But, yes, there will be radiation inside the insulation.


Air is an insulator.....


And yes there is radiation in the air as I said above but the air is not
infinitely thick.


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Szczepan Bialek July 28th 10 08:03 AM

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"Richard Clark" wrote
...
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:38:10 -0000, wrote:

If the insulation is infinitely thick, there is no outside of the
insulation
where radiation can occur.

But, yes, there will be radiation inside the insulation.


Air is an insulator.....


Like vacuum. But there are ions and free electrons.
In solid and liquid insulators no free electrons.

Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or stop it?
S*



Szczepan Bialek July 28th 10 08:05 AM

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"Richard Clark" wrote
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:28:53 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:


Radiate what?

What is better: bare metal or insulated metal?

To radiate what?


The radio waves.


Depends. Does "radio waves" mean NOT TV, NOT FM, NOT Cell Phone, NOT
Radar....?

To radiate what?


Your radio waves.
S*



Richard Clark July 28th 10 04:20 PM

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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:05:34 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:
To radiate what?


Your radio waves.


To radiate what?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

[email protected] July 28th 10 04:52 PM

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Richard Clark" wrote
...
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:38:10 -0000, wrote:

If the insulation is infinitely thick, there is no outside of the
insulation
where radiation can occur.

But, yes, there will be radiation inside the insulation.


Air is an insulator.....


Like vacuum. But there are ions and free electrons.
In solid and liquid insulators no free electrons.

Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or stop it?
S*


No.

The question has been answered.

You are a babbling idiot.



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Richard Clark July 28th 10 06:01 PM

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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:03:44 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

Air is an insulator.....


Like vacuum. But there are ions and free electrons.
In solid and liquid insulators no free electrons.


So, how can you tell?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Szczepan Bialek July 28th 10 06:21 PM

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"Richard Clark" wrote
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:05:34 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:
To radiate what?


Your radio waves.


To radiate what?


Jeff wrote: " Depends entirely on what the insulation is composed of!!"

Glass is an insulator but it is transparent for the light frequencies.

Does exist an insulation (reasonably thick) which is not transparent for the
radio-amateur frequencies?
S*



[email protected] July 28th 10 07:39 PM

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Richard Clark" wrote
...
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:05:34 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:
To radiate what?

Your radio waves.


To radiate what?


Jeff wrote: " Depends entirely on what the insulation is composed of!!"

Glass is an insulator but it is transparent for the light frequencies.

Does exist an insulation (reasonably thick) which is not transparent for the
radio-amateur frequencies?
S*


You obviously do not know that the amateur frequencies start at 1.8 MHz
and include everything above 300 GHz.

Within that range of frequencies, there are lots of materials that are
"insulators" that have large dielectric losses.

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permittivity

and in particular:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permittivity#Lossy_medium

You are a babbling idiot.



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Richard Clark July 28th 10 09:11 PM

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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:21:54 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

"Richard Clark" wrote
To radiate what?


Jeff wrote:


I'm perfectly aware of what Jeff wrote.
What are you going to write? It is a very simple question:

To radiate what?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

tom July 29th 10 12:59 AM

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On 7/28/2010 12:01 PM, Richard Clark wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:03:44 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

Air is an insulator.....


Like vacuum. But there are ions and free electrons.
In solid and liquid insulators no free electrons.


So, how can you tell?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC


I think I see where you're going with this Richard, but you must realize
by now that you're talking to a rock.

To put it another way, he wouldn't pass the Turing Test.

tom
K0TAR


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