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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

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On 8/2/2010 2:12 PM, Szczepan Bia?ek wrote:

You're missing something very important here, and you ask for the
information and then discount it when it doesn't satisfy you.

I encourage you to find the correct.

Meaningless babble.

The MEASURED CHARACTERISTICS of something cannot change just because the
theory explaining it has changed.

Yes. But the permittivity is the result of the conductivity measurement.
Conductors, semiconductors and insulators are for students. It is
simplification.
The reality is more complex.

More meaningless babble.

And it is quite easy to find. I'm surprised since you seem to be able to
find all the esoteric explanations of how the world works.

I can find milions papers on the theory of glow and losses in AC network.
The same should be for the radio frequences.
I was thinking that somebody from you have a link to such.

The AC glow is not simmetrical. So in the radio transmitter must be the
netto electrons flow.
Where can I find the DC ground current?

S*

Yet more babble and word salad.

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"tom" wrote
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I'm not sure you've hit it here. Mr B seems to understand language, he
just ignores the responses if they don't support his skewed world view.

Longitudinal electric waves were supported by all scientists.
Maxwell-Heaviside's erroneous hipothesis is chosen to teach the field
theory.
Radio people should know that.
S*

More meaningless word salad.


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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Michael Coslo" wrote
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

The was the additional question: "And what with the "natural"
insulations: the ice and the wet?

Sometimes are on your dipoles an ice or water.
They should melt/evaporate in the places where are picks of the voltage.
Is it observed?

Are you assuming that because there is high voltage, there is current
induced heating?

Bill Miller calls it "the transverse current". Electrons must displace
perpendicular to the antenna surface in AC.
In insulators are the electric losses.

Voltage does not translate diresctly to heat.

In insulated antena are the transverse current and the displacement current.

The all are facts. Should be easy to observe.

Some topics ago somebody analised the antenna temperature.
The end of the dipole should be the hottest.

Have you any observations in this subject?
S*

All nonsense word salad.



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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
"Michael Coslo" wrote
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:
The was the additional question: "And what with the "natural"
insulations: the ice and the wet?

Sometimes are on your dipoles an ice or water.
They should melt/evaporate in the places where are picks of the voltage.
Is it observed?
Are you assuming that because there is high voltage, there is current
induced heating?

Bill Miller calls it "the transverse current". Electrons must displace
perpendicular to the antenna surface in AC.
In insulators are the electric losses.
Voltage does not translate diresctly to heat.

Is a quantum effect current flow, and does heat emit from the process?
If it isn't heat induced, the effect is almost certainly ionization.

In insulated antena are the transverse current and the displacement current.

The all are facts. Should be easy to observe.

Some topics ago somebody analised the antenna temperature.
The end of the dipole should be the hottest.

Have you any observations in this subject?

Aside from analysis, has anyone measured this effect?

Is it to be expected in highly efficent antennas, or just inneficient
ones in which there is substantial heating already?

Is this assuming that the heat if given off is enough to raise the
temperature surrounding th eantenna above 0deg C?

- Mike -

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In article ,
says...
The AC glow is not simmetrical. So in the radio transmitter must be
the
netto electrons flow.
Where can I find the DC ground current?

S*

You are clearly influenced by the research of Professor Stanley Unwin.
You should read more of his works - you will recognise many of the
concepts you have been trying to explain.

G

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On 8/3/2010 11:49 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
"Michael wrote
Bill Miller calls it "the transverse current". Electrons must displace
perpendicular to the antenna surface in AC.
In insulators are the electric losses.

Voltage does not translate diresctly to heat.

In insulated antena are the transverse current and the displacement current.

The all are facts. Should be easy to observe.

If it is easy to observe then you should be able to observe the effect
yourself.

What have you seen?

t

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"tom" wrote
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On 8/3/2010 11:49 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
"Michael wrote
Bill Miller calls it "the transverse current". Electrons must displace
perpendicular to the antenna surface in AC.
In insulators are the electric losses.

Voltage does not translate diresctly to heat.

In insulated antena are the transverse current and the displacement
current.

The all are facts. Should be easy to observe.

If it is easy to observe then you should be able to observe the effect
yourself.

What have you seen?

I have not any possibility or opportunity.
Years ago I asked about the frequency doubling. The second answer was:
Luxembourg efect. It was this what I was
looking for.

But next were two hundred post with word salad on me and non-linear effects.

With the "polarisation" was the same.
So I know that sooner or later appear the valuable information.

Michael wrote: "Is it to be expected in highly efficent antennas, or just
inneficient ones in which there is substantial heating already? "

Lodge has seen the glow. You use the LED and VSWR..

Now everybody from you can measure the electron emission and heat emission.
I was expected that you (radio people) know the results.
S*

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"Michael Coslo" wrote
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:
"Michael Coslo" wrote
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:
The was the additional question: "And what with the "natural"
insulations: the ice and the wet?

Sometimes are on your dipoles an ice or water.
They should melt/evaporate in the places where are picks of the
voltage.
Is it observed?
Are you assuming that because there is high voltage, there is current
induced heating?

Bill Miller calls it "the transverse current". Electrons must displace
perpendicular to the antenna surface in AC.
In insulators are the electric losses.

Voltage does not translate diresctly to heat.

Is a quantum effect current flow, and does heat emit from the process? If
it isn't heat induced, the effect is almost certainly ionization.

No heat only in superconductors. In gold is lower than in aluminium.

In insulated antena are the transverse current and the displacement
current.

The all are facts. Should be easy to observe.

Some topics ago somebody analised the antenna temperature.
The end of the dipole should be the hottest.

Have you any observations in this subject?

Aside from analysis, has anyone measured this effect?

Of course. The antennas on animalls have temperature rise below 15C.

Is it to be expected in highly efficent antennas, or just inneficient ones
in which there is substantial heating already?

Is this assuming that the heat if given off is enough to raise the
temperature surrounding th eantenna above 0deg C?

I do not know. I am asking you (antenna owners).
Working antenna is hotter than at rest. Which part of the dipole is the
hottest?
S*

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

I have not any possibility or opportunity.
Years ago I asked about the frequency doubling. The second answer was:
Luxembourg efect. It was this what I was
looking for.

But next were two hundred post with word salad on me and non-linear effects.

With the "polarisation" was the same.
So I know that sooner or later appear the valuable information.

Michael wrote: "Is it to be expected in highly efficent antennas, or just
inneficient ones in which there is substantial heating already? "

Lodge has seen the glow. You use the LED and VSWR..

Now everybody from you can measure the electron emission and heat emission.
I was expected that you (radio people) know the results.
S*

Yet another steaming pile of gibberish and word salad.


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On Aug 4, 8:36*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"Michael Coslo" ...



Szczepan Bialek wrote:
*"Michael Coslo" wrote
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:
The was the additional question: "And what with the "natural"
insulations: the ice and the wet?

Sometimes are on your dipoles an ice or water.
They should melt/evaporate in the places where are picks of the
voltage.
Is it observed?
Are you assuming that because there is high voltage, there is current
induced heating?

Bill Miller calls it "the transverse current". Electrons must displace
perpendicular to the antenna surface in AC.
In insulators are the electric losses.
Voltage does not translate diresctly to heat.

Is a quantum effect current flow, and does heat emit from the process? If
it isn't heat induced, the effect is almost certainly ionization.

No heat only in superconductors. In gold is lower than in aluminium.

In insulated antena are the transverse current and the displacement
current.

The all are facts. Should be easy to observe.

Some topics ago somebody analised the antenna temperature.
The end of the dipole should be the hottest.

Have you any observations in this subject?

Aside from analysis, has anyone measured this effect?

Of course. The antennas on animalls have temperature rise below 15C.



Is it to be expected in highly efficent antennas, or just inneficient ones
in which there is substantial heating already?

Is this assuming that the heat if given off is enough to raise the
temperature surrounding th eantenna above 0deg C?

I do not know. I am asking you (antenna owners).
Working antenna is hotter than at rest. Which part of the dipole is the
hottest?
S*

the center part is the hottest.