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Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Oct 24, 6:51 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
"Registered User"
om...

And yes the radio works
with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.

Does "it works exactly the same"?

yes

Your radio is not the simplest. There is the LC. The capacitor has the two
plates so on the both the voltage is doubled. No matter which one is fed to
the headphones.

Could you make the super simplest radio: "Because I have a long (150 foot)
antenna, a good ground, and a strong station (50,000 watts) less than 20
miles away, my radio receives enough power to light a low current LED. The
LED is a 'high brighness' type (which also means that it will light dimly
with a very small amount of current). I connect it instead of diode in the
radio, and it glows as the radio operates, getting brighter as the sound
gets louder. "

The super simplest radio should consist of an antenna, LED and ground.

Can we reverse the LED?
S*

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On Oct 26, 2:45*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w ...
On Oct 24, 6:51 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

"Registered User"
om...

And yes the radio works
with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.

Does "it works exactly the same"?
yes

Your radio is not the simplest. There is *the LC. The capacitor has the two
plates so on the both the voltage is doubled. No matter which one is fed to
the headphones.

Could you make the super simplest radio: "Because I have a long (150 foot)
antenna, a good ground, and a strong station (50,000 watts) less than 20
miles away, my radio receives enough power to light a low current LED. The
LED is a 'high brighness' type (which also means that it will light dimly
with a very small amount of current). I connect it instead of diode in the
radio, and it glows as the radio operates, getting brighter as the sound
gets louder. "

The super simplest radio should consist of an antenna, LED and ground.

Can we reverse the LED?
S*

Very innovative
Art

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On Oct 26, 7:45*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w ...
On Oct 24, 6:51 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

"Registered User"
om...

And yes the radio works
with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.

Does "it works exactly the same"?
yes

Your radio is not the simplest. There is *the LC. The capacitor has the two
plates so on the both the voltage is doubled. No matter which one is fed to
the headphones.

Could you make the super simplest radio: "Because I have a long (150 foot)
antenna, a good ground, and a strong station (50,000 watts) less than 20
miles away, my radio receives enough power to light a low current LED. The
LED is a 'high brighness' type (which also means that it will light dimly
with a very small amount of current). I connect it instead of diode in the
radio, and it glows as the radio operates, getting brighter as the sound
gets louder. "

The super simplest radio should consist of an antenna, LED and ground.

Can we reverse the LED?
S*

yes

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"Art Unwin" wrote
...
On Oct 26, 2:45 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

Could you make the super simplest radio: "Because I have a long (150
foot)
antenna, a good ground, and a strong station (50,000 watts) less than 20
miles away, my radio receives enough power to light a low current LED. The
LED is a 'high brighness' type (which also means that it will light dimly
with a very small amount of current). I connect it instead of diode in the
radio, and it glows as the radio operates, getting brighter as the sound
gets louder. "

The super simplest radio should consist of an antenna, LED and ground.

Can we reverse the LED?
S*

Very innovative

What indicates the DC meter close to transmitter between the antenna and
ground?
S*

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On Oct 27, 8:14*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"Art Unwin" ...
On Oct 26, 2:45 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



Could you make the super simplest radio: "Because I have a long (150
foot)
antenna, a good ground, and a strong station (50,000 watts) less than 20
miles away, my radio receives enough power to light a low current LED. The
LED is a 'high brighness' type (which also means that it will light dimly
with a very small amount of current). I connect it instead of diode in the
radio, and it glows as the radio operates, getting brighter as the sound
gets louder. "

The super simplest radio should consist of an antenna, LED and ground.

Can we reverse the LED?
S*
Very innovative

What indicates the DC meter close to transmitter between the antenna and
ground?
S*

zero

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Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Oct 27, 8:14 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

What indicates the DC meter close to transmitter between the antenna and
ground?

zero

1. Zero in the sunny day,
2. Zero under the storm cloud (Franklin),
3. Zero before the storm (when the St. Elmo's fire are).
S*

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On 10/25/2010 08:41 PM, K1TTT wrote:
On Oct 24, 6:51 pm, "Szczepan wrote:
"Registered om...

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 15:29:50 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

On the simplified drawing the electron flow from antena to ground.
Are you sure that the diode may be mounted in the opposite direction?

My only question is why does my crystal radio work without a ground
connection? Yes the radio does work better with a ground but that does
not negate the fact it works without a ground.

Most receivers has a chassis as a ground.

And yes the radio works
with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.

Does "it works exactly the same"?
S*

yes

I haven't read all the thread.

I always see the diode in series between the antenna and the headphones.

You will get a much louder audio signal if you connect a germanium diode
( 1N34 ) in parallel with the phones.

\/ antenna
|
|________
| |
-- O
diode \/ ) phones
-- O
| |
|_______|
|
____
__ ground
-


Alejandro Lieber LU1FCR
Rosario Argentina

Real-Time F2-Layer Critical Frequency Map foF2:
http://1fcr.com.ar

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"Alejandro Lieber" wrote
...
On 10/25/2010 08:41 PM, K1TTT wrote:
On Oct 24, 6:51 pm, "Szczepan wrote:
"Registered
om...

And yes the radio works
with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.

Does "it works exactly the same"?
S*

yes

I haven't read all the thread.

I always see the diode in series between the antenna and the headphones.

Like he http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/r...ade_radio.html


You will get a much louder audio signal if you connect a germanium diode
( 1N34 ) in parallel with the phones.

\/ antenna
|
|________
| |
-- O
diode \/ ) phones
-- O
| |
|_______|
|
____
__ ground
-



Is the direction of the diode important?
If yes, where should flow the electrons through the diode?
S*

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Alejandro Lieber" wrote
...
On 10/25/2010 08:41 PM, K1TTT wrote:
On Oct 24, 6:51 pm, "Szczepan wrote:
"Registered
om...

And yes the radio works
with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.

Does "it works exactly the same"?
S*

yes

I haven't read all the thread.

I always see the diode in series between the antenna and the headphones.

Like he http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/r...ade_radio.html


You will get a much louder audio signal if you connect a germanium diode
( 1N34 ) in parallel with the phones.

\/ antenna
|
|________
| |
-- O
diode \/ ) phones
-- O
| |
|_______|
|
____
__ ground
-



Is the direction of the diode important?

No.

How many times do you have to be told that before it sinks in?


--
Jim Pennino

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On Oct 28, 12:11*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
... where should flow the electrons through the diode?

The diode (plus leads) is much longer than the total movement of the
electrons at RF. Exactly how many electrons are "flowing" through the
diode during each RF cycle?
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

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On Oct 28, 7:11*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w ...
On Oct 27, 8:14 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



What indicates the DC meter close to transmitter between the antenna and
ground?
zero

1. Zero in the sunny day,
2. Zero under the storm cloud (Franklin),
3. Zero before the storm (when the St. Elmo's fire are).
S*

I'll give you the meter leads and you can stand out there while the
storm is approaching and we'll see what the voltage is due to the
storm. the dc voltage due to the radio transmitter is still zero.

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Uzytkownik "Cecil Moore" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Oct 28, 12:11 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
... where should flow the electrons through the diode?

The diode (plus leads) is much longer than the total movement of the
electrons at RF. Exactly how many electrons are "flowing" through the
diode during each RF cycle?

More than zero.
S*

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On Oct 29, 7:40*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "Cecil Moore" napisal w ...
On Oct 28, 12:11 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

... where should flow the electrons through the diode?
The diode (plus leads) is much longer than the total movement of the

electrons at RF. Exactly how many electrons are "flowing" through the
diode during each RF cycle?

*More than zero.
S*

and less than infinity...

wow, i think we have made progress here!

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Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Oct 29, 7:40 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "Cecil Moore" napisal w
...

. Exactly how many electrons are "flowing" through the
diode during each RF cycle?

More than zero.

and less than infinity...

Already you wrote" What indicates the DC meter close to transmitter
between the antenna and
ground?
zero"

wow, i think we have made progress here!

Not we. Only you. "More than zero and less than infinity" is a big progress.
Congratulations.
At end you admit that there is a netto DC.
S*

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On Oct 29, 4:05*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w ...
On Oct 29, 7:40 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

Uzytkownik "Cecil Moore" napisal w
...

. Exactly how many electrons are "flowing" through the
diode during each RF cycle?

More than zero.
and less than infinity...

Already you wrote" What indicates the DC meter close to transmitter
between the antenna and

ground?
zero"
wow, i think we have made progress here!

Not we. Only you. "More than zero and less than infinity" is a big progress.
Congratulations.
At end you admit that there is a netto DC.
S*

the diode causes an imbalance, not the transmitter. it can be either
direction depending on the orientation of the diode... how does your
electron flowing explain that?

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"K1TTT" wrote
...
On Oct 29, 4:05 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

At end you admit that there is a netto DC.
S*

the diode causes an imbalance, not the transmitter. it can be either
direction depending on the orientation of the diode... how does your
electron flowing explain that?

You must do the next progress. The simplest radio is like a photocell. There
are the two copper plate with the semiconductor between. Electrons always
flow from the side exposed to light to side in shadow. Never in opposite.
One plate is as an antenna and the other as the chassis.
Do you agree?
S*

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On 10/28/2010 02:20 PM, wrote:
Szczepan wrote:

"Alejandro wrote
...
On 10/25/2010 08:41 PM, K1TTT wrote:
On Oct 24, 6:51 pm, "Szczepan wrote:
"Registered
om...

And yes the radio works
with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.

Does "it works exactly the same"?
S*

yes

I haven't read all the thread.

I always see the diode in series between the antenna and the headphones.

Like he http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/r...ade_radio.html


You will get a much louder audio signal if you connect a germanium diode
( 1N34 ) in parallel with the phones.

\/ antenna
|
|________
| |
-- O
diode \/ ) phones
-- O
| |
|_______|
|
____
__ ground
-



Is the direction of the diode important?

No.

How many times do you have to be told that before it sinks in?



There is an alternate electric field between the antenna and earth.

Electrons will move down through the earphones and up through the diode.

--
Alejandro Lieber LU1FCR
Rosario Argentina

Real-Time F2-Layer Critical Frequency Map foF2:
http://1fcr.com.ar

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"Alejandro Lieber" wrote
...

There is an alternate electric field between the antenna and earth.

Electrons will move down through the earphones and up through the diode.

If in parallel. And what will be in series?
S*

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On 10/29/2010 02:14 PM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Alejandro Lieber" wrote
...

There is an alternate electric field between the antenna and earth.

Electrons will move down through the earphones and up through the diode.

If in parallel. And what will be in series?
S*



Nothing

--
Alejandro Lieber LU1FCR
Rosario Argentina

Real-Time F2-Layer Critical Frequency Map foF2:
http://1fcr.com.ar

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"Alejandro Lieber" wrote
...

Electrons will move down through the earphones and up through the diode.

If in parallel. And what will be in series?
S*

Nothing

"I put up a 200 foot antenna between two trees over my house, and tuned to a
50,000 watt station about 30 miles away, and now I get 175 microamps of
current through my meter."

It is almost nothing but more than zero.
S*

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On Oct 29, 6:00*pm, Alejandro Lieber alejan...@Use-Author-Supplied-
Address.invalid wrote:
On 10/29/2010 02:14 PM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:



"Alejandro Lieber" wrote
...

There is an alternate electric field between the antenna and earth.

Electrons will move down through the earphones and up through the diode.

If in parallel. And what will be in series?
S*

Nothing

--
Alejandro Lieber *LU1FCR
Rosario Argentina

Real-Time F2-Layer Critical Frequency Map foF2:http://1fcr.com.ar

don't take him seriously... he has a very warped idea of how
electromagnetic waves work. i just keep him talking to see what funny
ideas come out next.

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On 10/30/2010 04:36 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Alejandro Lieber" wrote
...

Electrons will move down through the earphones and up through the
diode.

If in parallel. And what will be in series?
S*

Nothing

"I put up a 200 foot antenna between two trees over my house, and tuned
to a 50,000 watt station about 30 miles away, and now I get 175
microamps of current through my meter."

It is almost nothing but more than zero.
S*


You should put the meter in series with the diode or the earphone, not
in series with the antenna or the earth.

In the diode and in the earphones you have direct current that the meter
will measure, in the connection to the antenna and the earth, you have
radio frequencies that the meter will not measure correctly.
--
Alejandro Lieber LU1FCR
Rosario Argentina

Real-Time F2-Layer Critical Frequency Map foF2:
http://1fcr.com.ar

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Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
...


don't take him seriously... he has a very warped idea of how
electromagnetic waves work. i just keep him talking to see what funny
ideas come out next.

Stokes drift and Tesla's electric waves are reality.

Heaviside's compilations (TEM) are funny.
S*

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On 10/30/2010 10:52 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
...


don't take him seriously... he has a very warped idea of how
electromagnetic waves work. i just keep him talking to see what funny
ideas come out next.

Stokes drift and Tesla's electric waves are reality.

Heaviside's compilations (TEM) are funny.
S*

And yet they have nothing to do with EM waves.

Sorry, I forgot. You don't believe in EM waves.

What's it like to live in a fantasy world?

tom
K0TAR

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Uzytkownik "tom" napisal w wiadomosci
et...
On 10/30/2010 10:52 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
...


don't take him seriously... he has a very warped idea of how
electromagnetic waves work. i just keep him talking to see what funny
ideas come out next.

Stokes drift and Tesla's electric waves are reality.

Heaviside's compilations (TEM) are funny.
S*

And yet they have nothing to do with EM waves.

Sorry, I forgot. You don't believe in EM waves.

Tesla wrote that the EM is a myth.

What's it like to live in a fantasy world?

You are living in the fantasy world.
To stop it is enough to measure the ground current.
S*

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On Oct 31, 7:04*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "tom" napisal w wiadomoscinews:4cccca3e$0$6700$8046368a@newsreader .iphouse.net...



On 10/30/2010 10:52 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
....

don't take him seriously... he has a very warped idea of how
electromagnetic waves work. i just keep him talking to see what funny
ideas come out next.

Stokes drift and Tesla's electric waves are reality.

Heaviside's compilations (TEM) are funny.
S*

And yet they have nothing to do with EM waves.

Sorry, I forgot. *You don't believe in EM waves.

Tesla wrote that the EM is a myth.



What's it like to live in a fantasy world?

You are living in the fantasy world.
To stop it is enough to measure the ground current.
S*

i measure no ground current from a transmitter, so i must not be
having a fantasy.

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On Oct 31, 7:04*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "tom" napisal w wiadomoscinews:4cccca3e$0$6700$8046368a@newsreader .iphouse.net...



On 10/30/2010 10:52 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
....

don't take him seriously... he has a very warped idea of how
electromagnetic waves work. i just keep him talking to see what funny
ideas come out next.

Stokes drift and Tesla's electric waves are reality.

Heaviside's compilations (TEM) are funny.
S*

And yet they have nothing to do with EM waves.

Sorry, I forgot. *You don't believe in EM waves.

Tesla wrote that the EM is a myth.



What's it like to live in a fantasy world?

You are living in the fantasy world.
To stop it is enough to measure the ground current.
S*

give me a number... i have 6 transmitters running 1500w rf output each
into 50 ohm antennas. There is one ground cable to all the stations,
how much dc current should i measure in that ground cable? show work,
extra points for neatness.

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Uzytkownik "tom" napisal w wiadomosci
et...
On 10/30/2010 10:52 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
...


don't take him seriously... he has a very warped idea of how
electromagnetic waves work. i just keep him talking to see what funny
ideas come out next.

Stokes drift and Tesla's electric waves are reality.

Heaviside's compilations (TEM) are funny.
S*

And yet they have nothing to do with EM waves.

Sorry, I forgot. You don't believe in EM waves.

Tesla wrote that the EM is a myth.

Tesla died insane, much like you are now.


--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

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"K1TTT" wrote
...
On Oct 31, 7:04 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

You are living in the fantasy world.
To stop it is enough to measure the ground current.
S*

give me a number... i have 6 transmitters running 1500w rf output each
into 50 ohm antennas. There is one ground cable to all the stations,
how much dc current should i measure in that ground cable?

Everybody know that Tesla coil is pumping the earth's charge (pulsatory
flow). The same do yours 6 transmitters.

Stop writing and try to detect it in your ground cable. In the Warshaw LW
mast it would be easy. But it collapsed.
S*

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On Oct 31, 6:29*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"K1TTT" ...
On Oct 31, 7:04 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



You are living in the fantasy world.
To stop it is enough to measure the ground current.
S*
give me a number... i have 6 transmitters running 1500w rf output each

into 50 ohm antennas. *There is one ground cable to all the stations,
how much dc current should i measure in that ground cable?

Everybody know that Tesla coil is pumping the earth's charge (pulsatory
flow). The same do yours 6 transmitters.

Stop writing and try to detect it in your ground cable. In the Warshaw LW
mast it would be easy. But it collapsed.
S*

i have tried, i can't detect it... how much does your theory say
should be there so i know if i am not reading sensitive enough meter.
theories that can't make measureable predictions are not very useful.

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Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Oct 31, 6:29 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

Everybody know that Tesla coil is pumping the earth's charge (pulsatory
flow). The same do yours 6 transmitters.

Stop writing and try to detect it in your ground cable. In the Warshaw LW
mast it would be easy. But it collapsed.
S*

i have tried, i can't detect it... how much does your theory say
should be there so i know if i am not reading sensitive enough meter.
theories that can't make measureable predictions are not very useful.

You have 1500W, LW transmitters 1500kW. But the biggest is the Sun.
Planets have the excess of electrons. Receiver antennas close to transmitter
should also have.
But everywhere are an exeptions (materials dependent). Like with the Hall
effect.

In a ground cable is the pulsatory flow of electrons.
A current meter has the resistor and voltmeter. Try an osciloscop instead of
voltmeter. The voltage should not be symmetric. But I am not an expert.
S*

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On Nov 1, 3:44*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Planets have the excess of electrons. Receiver antennas close to transmitter
should also have.

Electrons are blasted away from the sun by the atomic fusion reactor
at the core. How many RF transmitters run on atomic fusion?
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

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Uzytkownik "Cecil Moore" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Nov 1, 3:44 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Planets have the excess of electrons. Receiver antennas close to
transmitter
should also have.

Electrons are blasted away from the sun by the atomic fusion reactor
at the core. How many RF transmitters run on atomic fusion?

Again a school physics.
The Sun attracts all solids body. They are reworked into plasma.
Oscillations is a by product.

Not only planets. Everything has excess of electrons.
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/design/q0234.shtml

And what with your receiving antenna?
S*

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On Nov 1, 8:44*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w ...
On Oct 31, 6:29 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



Everybody know that Tesla coil is pumping the earth's charge (pulsatory
flow). The same do yours 6 transmitters.

Stop writing and try to detect it in your ground cable. In the Warshaw LW
mast it would be easy. But it collapsed.
S*
i have tried, i can't detect it... how much does your theory say

should be there so i know if i am not reading sensitive enough meter.
theories that can't make measureable predictions are not very useful.

You have 1500W, LW transmitters 1500kW. But the biggest is the Sun.
Planets have the excess of electrons. Receiver antennas close to transmitter
should also have.
But everywhere are an exeptions (materials dependent). Like with the Hall
effect.

In a ground cable is the pulsatory flow of electrons.
A current meter has the resistor and voltmeter. Try an osciloscop instead of
voltmeter. The voltage should not be symmetric.

my voltage is symmetric on the oscilloscope as closely as i can
compare it... give me your calculation, 6x1500w with a single ground
should cause how much asymetry?

But I am not an expert.
S*

that is the only true thing you have said so far.

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On Nov 1, 12:04*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Everything has excess of electrons.

Sorry, you are wrong. A normal helium atom does not have an excess of
electrons (hint: it is inert).
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

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On Nov 1, 5:04*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "Cecil Moore" napisal w ...
On Nov 1, 3:44 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

Planets have the excess of electrons. Receiver antennas close to
transmitter
should also have.
Electrons are blasted away from the sun by the atomic fusion reactor

at the core. How many RF transmitters run on atomic fusion?

Again a school physics.
The Sun attracts all solids body. They are reworked into plasma.
Oscillations is a by product.

Not only planets. Everything has excess of electrons.http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/design/q0234.shtml

And what with your receiving antenna?
S*

i just want one of those fusion driven plasma antennas, that should
make some real noise during contests!

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"K1TTT" wrote
...
On Nov 1, 8:44 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

In a ground cable is the pulsatory flow of electrons.
A current meter has the resistor and voltmeter. Try an osciloscop instead
of
voltmeter. The voltage should not be symmetric.

my voltage is symmetric on the oscilloscope as closely as i can
compare it... give me your calculation, 6x1500w with a single ground
should cause how much asymetry?

So your electrons only oscillate (no Stokes drift)?

But I am not an expert.

that is the only true thing you have said so far.

So it takes a time for me to find the method of measure the Stokes drift in
your stations.
Try also to do your best.
S*

Antenna materials
 

On Nov 2, 8:34*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
"K1TTT" ...
On Nov 1, 8:44 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



In a ground cable is the pulsatory flow of electrons.
A current meter has the resistor and voltmeter. Try an osciloscop instead
of
voltmeter. The voltage should not be symmetric.
my voltage is symmetric on the oscilloscope as closely as i can

compare it... give me your calculation, 6x1500w with a single ground
should cause how much asymetry?

So your electrons only oscillate (no Stokes drift)?

But I am not an expert.
that is the only true thing you have said so far.

So it takes a time for me to find the method of measure the Stokes drift in
your stations.
Try also to do your best.
S*

no drift that i can measure... but you haven't told me how much i
should be looking for so i may not be measuring properly.

Antenna materials
 

"K1TTT" wrote
...
On Nov 2, 8:34 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

So your electrons only oscillate (no Stokes drift)?

But I am not an expert.
that is the only true thing you have said so far.

So it takes a time for me to find the method of measure the Stokes drift
in
your stations.
Try also to do your best.
S*

no drift that i can measure... but you haven't told me how much i
should be looking for so i may not be measuring properly.

At first you must have a radio which do not work without ground. No chassis
no AC supply.
If you are able to prepare such the rest will be easy.
S*

Antenna materials
 

On Nov 4, 8:55*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"K1TTT" ...
On Nov 2, 8:34 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



So your electrons only oscillate (no Stokes drift)?

But I am not an expert.
that is the only true thing you have said so far.

So it takes a time for me to find the method of measure the Stokes drift
in
your stations.
Try also to do your best.
S*
no drift that i can measure... but you haven't told me how much i

should be looking for so i may not be measuring properly.

At first you must have a radio which do not work without ground. No chassis
no AC supply.
If you are able to prepare such the rest will be easy.
S*

got it... plastic case, battery powered, only does 5w that that is
easy to measure. now how much dc current should i measure in the
ground lead when i transmit with 5w?