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On Oct 4, 10:31*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
Antennas usually are made of aluminum as copper is somewhat heavier
and silver and gold is to expensive. Since lead is now banned in a lot
of places especially with solder you can now buy solder that is doped
with Bismuth !
Now you can't coat your elements with it but *if you have a solder
bath you can run copper wire thru it. The bismuth is brittle
but with the underlying copper it is stiff enough to stick it on the
antenna elements. I am assuming that the applied current would travel
along the bismuth coating instead of the aluminum and therefore should
increase gain for antennas that use coupling methods such as the Yagi
tho bandwidth may well suffer some what.
What do you think?


Obviously a reduction in IR losses will improve any antenna. Art how
much do you thing making an antenna out of silver instead of aluminum
would reduce the IR losses.
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On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 04:31:55 -0700 (PDT), JIMMIE
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Obviously a reduction in IR losses will improve any antenna. Art how
much do you thing making an antenna out of silver instead of aluminum
would reduce the IR losses.


InfraRed loss in an antenna?

or perhaps:

IR Voltage Loss in an antenna?

or perhaps:

IR Power Loss in an antenna?

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Yes, IR loss is the entire point (and positive characteristic) of an
antenna, especially if R is radiation resistance.

Hmmm, IR loss could be said to be a naturally occurring fact of life
along the length of any antenna if we consider the distribution of
potential.

Ouch, InfraRed loss could burn you - but it would be curious to note
that if an antenna is truly an equal performer (transmit/receive) what
would we hear from the antenna when the sun rises in the morning?

As to the receive-mode phenomenon of this sunrise observation, if that
antenna were coated with diamagnetic water (dew), then we would
observe particles leaping (-um- steaming) off of it (with sizzle)!

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On 10/6/2010 12:24 PM, Richard Clark wrote:
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 04:31:55 -0700 (PDT), JIMMIE
wrote:

Obviously a reduction in IR losses will improve any antenna. Art how
much do you thing making an antenna out of silver instead of aluminum
would reduce the IR losses.


InfraRed loss in an antenna?

or perhaps:

IR Voltage Loss in an antenna?

or perhaps:

IR Power Loss in an antenna?

**************

Yes, IR loss is the entire point (and positive characteristic) of an
antenna, especially if R is radiation resistance.

Hmmm, IR loss could be said to be a naturally occurring fact of life
along the length of any antenna if we consider the distribution of
potential.

Ouch, InfraRed loss could burn you - but it would be curious to note
that if an antenna is truly an equal performer (transmit/receive) what
would we hear from the antenna when the sun rises in the morning?

As to the receive-mode phenomenon of this sunrise observation, if that
antenna were coated with diamagnetic water (dew), then we would
observe particles leaping (-um- steaming) off of it (with sizzle)!

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC


What an idea! IR night vision could be used to tune antennas!

I redact my previous obfuscation against you Art. You are BRIALLAINT!

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On 10/6/2010 5:45 PM, tom wrote:

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What an idea! IR night vision could be used to tune antennas!

I redact my previous obfuscation against you Art. You are BRIALLAINT!

tom
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First consuming Ayawaska and then putting on a 3d pair of glasses
actually allows you to see the photons shooting out from the antenna. I
believe it is the "time dilation effect" from the Ayawaska which is
responsible for this, seemingly, "superman ability" occurring.

As always, first consult your local shaman or witchdoctor before taking
Ayawaska ...

Regards,
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Art Unwin wrote:
Antennas usually are made of aluminum as copper is somewhat heavier
and silver and gold is to expensive. Since lead is now banned in a lot
of places especially with solder you can now buy solder that is doped
with Bismuth !
Now you can't coat your elements with it but if you have a solder
bath you can run copper wire thru it. The bismuth is brittle
but with the underlying copper it is stiff enough to stick it on the
antenna elements. I am assuming that the applied current would travel
along the bismuth coating instead of the aluminum and therefore should
increase gain for antennas that use coupling methods such as the Yagi
tho bandwidth may well suffer some what.
What do you think?


Since the conductivity of aluminum is about 43 times higher than that of
bisimuth, I think you are babbling.


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Since the conductivity of aluminum is about 43 times higher than that of
bisimuth, I think you are babbling.


You meant I could use the aluminum window frames as a big antenna?

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On 10/7/2010 9:41 AM, Man-wai Chang wrote:

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You meant I could use the aluminum window frames as a big antenna?
...


Absolutely! But, don't you find the aluminum round tubing more suitable?

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You meant I could use the aluminum window frames as a big antenna?
Absolutely!


For both AM & FM?

But, don't you find the aluminum round tubing more suitable?


But the window frame is right here!

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On Oct 7, 4:41*pm, Man-wai Chang wrote:
Since the conductivity of aluminum is about 43 times higher than that of
bisimuth, I think you are babbling.


You meant I could use the aluminum window frames as a big antenna?

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YES! i have done that and it works great... even better than
bedsprings because you can make it vertically polarized by feeding in
the right place.


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