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On Oct 4, 10:31*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
Antennas usually are made of aluminum as copper is somewhat heavier and silver and gold is to expensive. Since lead is now banned in a lot of places especially with solder you can now buy solder that is doped with Bismuth ! Now you can't coat your elements with it but *if you have a solder bath you can run copper wire thru it. The bismuth is brittle but with the underlying copper it is stiff enough to stick it on the antenna elements. I am assuming that the applied current would travel along the bismuth coating instead of the aluminum and therefore should increase gain for antennas that use coupling methods such as the Yagi tho bandwidth may well suffer some what. What do you think? Obviously a reduction in IR losses will improve any antenna. Art how much do you thing making an antenna out of silver instead of aluminum would reduce the IR losses. Jimmie |
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On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 04:31:55 -0700 (PDT), JIMMIE
wrote: Obviously a reduction in IR losses will improve any antenna. Art how much do you thing making an antenna out of silver instead of aluminum would reduce the IR losses. InfraRed loss in an antenna? or perhaps: IR Voltage Loss in an antenna? or perhaps: IR Power Loss in an antenna? ************** Yes, IR loss is the entire point (and positive characteristic) of an antenna, especially if R is radiation resistance. Hmmm, IR loss could be said to be a naturally occurring fact of life along the length of any antenna if we consider the distribution of potential. Ouch, InfraRed loss could burn you - but it would be curious to note that if an antenna is truly an equal performer (transmit/receive) what would we hear from the antenna when the sun rises in the morning? As to the receive-mode phenomenon of this sunrise observation, if that antenna were coated with diamagnetic water (dew), then we would observe particles leaping (-um- steaming) off of it (with sizzle)! 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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On 10/6/2010 12:24 PM, Richard Clark wrote:
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 04:31:55 -0700 (PDT), JIMMIE wrote: Obviously a reduction in IR losses will improve any antenna. Art how much do you thing making an antenna out of silver instead of aluminum would reduce the IR losses. InfraRed loss in an antenna? or perhaps: IR Voltage Loss in an antenna? or perhaps: IR Power Loss in an antenna? ************** Yes, IR loss is the entire point (and positive characteristic) of an antenna, especially if R is radiation resistance. Hmmm, IR loss could be said to be a naturally occurring fact of life along the length of any antenna if we consider the distribution of potential. Ouch, InfraRed loss could burn you - but it would be curious to note that if an antenna is truly an equal performer (transmit/receive) what would we hear from the antenna when the sun rises in the morning? As to the receive-mode phenomenon of this sunrise observation, if that antenna were coated with diamagnetic water (dew), then we would observe particles leaping (-um- steaming) off of it (with sizzle)! 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC What an idea! IR night vision could be used to tune antennas! I redact my previous obfuscation against you Art. You are BRIALLAINT! tom K0TAR |
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On 10/6/2010 5:45 PM, tom wrote:
... What an idea! IR night vision could be used to tune antennas! I redact my previous obfuscation against you Art. You are BRIALLAINT! tom K0TAR First consuming Ayawaska and then putting on a 3d pair of glasses actually allows you to see the photons shooting out from the antenna. I believe it is the "time dilation effect" from the Ayawaska which is responsible for this, seemingly, "superman ability" occurring. As always, first consult your local shaman or witchdoctor before taking Ayawaska ... Regards, JS |
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Art Unwin wrote:
Antennas usually are made of aluminum as copper is somewhat heavier and silver and gold is to expensive. Since lead is now banned in a lot of places especially with solder you can now buy solder that is doped with Bismuth ! Now you can't coat your elements with it but if you have a solder bath you can run copper wire thru it. The bismuth is brittle but with the underlying copper it is stiff enough to stick it on the antenna elements. I am assuming that the applied current would travel along the bismuth coating instead of the aluminum and therefore should increase gain for antennas that use coupling methods such as the Yagi tho bandwidth may well suffer some what. What do you think? Since the conductivity of aluminum is about 43 times higher than that of bisimuth, I think you are babbling. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Since the conductivity of aluminum is about 43 times higher than that of
bisimuth, I think you are babbling. You meant I could use the aluminum window frames as a big antenna? ![]() -- @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.35.7 ^ ^ 00:36:01 up 8 days 1:53 1 user load average: 0.00 0.11 0.08 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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On 10/7/2010 9:41 AM, Man-wai Chang wrote:
... You meant I could use the aluminum window frames as a big antenna? ![]() ... Absolutely! But, don't you find the aluminum round tubing more suitable? Regards, JS |
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You meant I could use the aluminum window frames as a big antenna?
![]() Absolutely! For both AM & FM? But, don't you find the aluminum round tubing more suitable? But the window frame is right here! ![]() -- @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.35.7 ^ ^ 12:03:01 up 8 days 13:20 1 user load average: 0.00 0.01 0.00 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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On Oct 7, 4:41*pm, Man-wai Chang wrote:
Since the conductivity of aluminum is about 43 times higher than that of bisimuth, I think you are babbling. You meant I could use the aluminum window frames as a big antenna? ![]() -- * *@~@ * Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. * / v \ *Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) *Linux 2.6.35.7 * *^ ^ * 00:36:01 up 8 days 1:53 1 user load average: 0.00 0.11 0.08 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa YES! i have done that and it works great... even better than bedsprings because you can make it vertically polarized by feeding in the right place. |
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