"Art Unwin" wrote
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So what is your point exactly? Are you holding on to
radiation by "waves" instead of "particles" or what?

In reality are the continuous flow and the oscillatory flow. Flow of the
particles. The oscillatry flow is the wave.
In the ink printer works the oscillatory flow. In antennas and the space
also.

With respect to the works of the Masters which one could include the
books by Jackson and others.
They all state that Gauss;'s law on MAGNETISM
was included in Maxwell's laws or equations on radiation. I know of no
text book that outlines the connection between ":statics" and the
equations of Maxwell. A debate was held on this forum on the
connection between statics and Maxwell which was held in denial by
all. After a year or so the statement was made that" the Jackson book
outlined the connection between Gauss and Maxwell" so the connection
of statics was wrongly connected to the Gaussian law on" magnetics"
and not his laws on "statics.".
The boundary laws of Maxwell which is the basis
of all of his equations are also those of statics which, when made
dynamic, are the one and the same equation arrived at by Maxwell . I
know of no mention in any book on radiation that equates as fact that
classical physics mathematically supports the position of particles as
the root of propagation which is in agreement with Einsteins laws on
Relativity. Point being that mass is required for "acceleration of
charge" as with particles./ electrons
and to my knowledge has not been stated as the Gaussian connection to
Maxwell..... anywhere!
I would appreciate it if you or anybody can point to where I am in
error and where your position can be determined as credible.

"Maxwell equations" have nothing common with Maxwell.
http://www.ivorcatt.com/2810.htm

"Heaviside said that mathematics was an experimental science. He organised
Maxwell's mathematical work into the four equations which we now call
"Maxwell's Equations".
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

In reality are the continuous flow and the oscillatory flow. Flow of the
particles. The oscillatry flow is the wave.

In reality you are a babbling kook.


--
Jim Pennino

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On 10/6/2010 8:47 AM, wrote:
Szczepan wrote:

In reality are the continuous flow and the oscillatory flow. Flow of the
particles. The oscillatry flow is the wave.

In reality you are a babbling kook.



Too much ayawaska me thinks ... the religious "meaning" in antennas just
doesn't exist ...

Regards,
JS

On Oct 6, 2:47*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
In reality are the continuous flow and the oscillatory flow. Flow of the
particles. The oscillatry flow is the wave.

Seems you have it backwards. The slow-moving free electrons oscillate
back and forth at HF, moving forward and backward very little
(calculate it for yourself). The energy flow from source to load is in
the form of photons/fields/waves traveling at the speed of light
which is impossible for electrons. As far as ham radio antenna
functions go, electrons and photons are the only things known to
physics to be active in transferring and radiating RF energy.
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73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

"Cecil Moore" wrote
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On Oct 6, 2:47 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
In reality are the continuous flow and the oscillatory flow. Flow of the
particles. The oscillatry flow is the wave.

Seems you have it backwards. The slow-moving free electrons oscillate
back and forth at HF, moving forward and backward very little
(calculate it for yourself).

Symmetrical back and forth take place only in the simple equations.
In EACH wave the forth is stronger than back.

The energy flow from source to load is in
the form of photons/fields/waves traveling at the speed of light
which is impossible for electrons.

Photons in a wire?

As far as ham radio antenna
functions go, electrons and photons are the only things known to
physics to be active in transferring and radiating RF energy.

Electrons were discovered. Photons are the products of speculations.
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Cecil Moore" wrote
...
On Oct 6, 2:47 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
In reality are the continuous flow and the oscillatory flow. Flow of the
particles. The oscillatry flow is the wave.

Seems you have it backwards. The slow-moving free electrons oscillate
back and forth at HF, moving forward and backward very little
(calculate it for yourself).

Symmetrical back and forth take place only in the simple equations.
In EACH wave the forth is stronger than back.

Babbling, work salad, nonsense.

The energy flow from source to load is in
the form of photons/fields/waves traveling at the speed of light
which is impossible for electrons.

Photons in a wire?

No, you idiot.

As far as ham radio antenna
functions go, electrons and photons are the only things known to
physics to be active in transferring and radiating RF energy.

Electrons were discovered. Photons are the products of speculations.
S*

No, you idiot.

Photons have been observed.


--
Jim Pennino

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Symmetrical back and forth take place only in the simple equations.
In EACH wave the forth is stronger than back.

The intellectual product of a Stalinist education system.

Or the most lucid manifesto available from the Tea Party.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On 10/6/2010 2:13 PM, Richard Clark wrote:
Symmetrical back and forth take place only in the simple equations.
In EACH wave the forth is stronger than back.

The intellectual product of a Stalinist education system.

Or the most lucid manifesto available from the Tea Party.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Ah, I almost forgot, it's election time.

Could you please let it go just one election season? It is boring and
repetitious crap and way beneath your normal responses.

tom
K0TAR

"tom" wrote
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On 10/6/2010 2:13 PM, Richard Clark wrote:
Symmetrical back and forth take place only in the simple equations.
In EACH wave the forth is stronger than back.

The intellectual product of a Stalinist education system.

Or the most lucid manifesto available from the Tea Party.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Ah, I almost forgot, it's electron time.

And the field emissions.

Could you please let it go just one electron season? It is boring and
repetitious crap and way beneath your normal responses.

Electrons, mass transport and the field emission are reality. EM is a myth.
S*

"Richard Clark" wrote
...
Symmetrical back and forth take place only in the simple equations.
In EACH wave the forth is stronger than back.

The intellectual product of a Stalinist education system.

"It was shown by Stokes that in a water wave the particles of fluid possess,
apart from their orbital motion, a steady second-order drift velocity
(usually called the mass-transport velocity)."

In all schools the second-order effects are neglected.
In Stokes time no radio. But the above apply to all waves.

You should start with the selfeducation.
S*