"K1TTT" wrote
...
On Oct 10, 1:13 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

In each end the voltage has tendency to be doubled (standing wave). If
you
have radials and the LED you can measure the voltage. It will be lower in
10
radials than in 6.

oh, so it does double at the end of a radial.. that is different from
what you said earlier.

Existence of the standing waves was shown by Oliver Lodge. They are in each
wire.


as opposed to the electron at the end
of an antenna that does double??

You know what to do to have low VSWR. Low VSWR means that the voltage is
so
high that the intensive emission of electrons take place.

At higher voltage the emission or sparks make low VSWR.

oh, so the swr changes with transmitter power?

I wrote: "You know what to do to have low VSWR". Do you?

that is an observable
prediction that is obviously false... go back to square 1 and start
your theory over again.

Here no new theory. Pulsative flow and the field emission are very old.

Is the pulsative flow of electrons in antennas?
S*

On Oct 10, 3:04*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"K1TTT" ...
On Oct 10, 1:13 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



In each end the voltage has tendency to be doubled (standing wave). If
you
have radials and the LED you can measure the voltage. It will be lower in
10
radials than in 6.
oh, so it does double at the end of a radial.. that is different from

what you said earlier.

Existence of the standing waves was shown by Oliver Lodge. They are in each
wire.



as opposed to the electron at the end
of an antenna that does double??

You know what to do to have low VSWR. Low VSWR means that the voltage is
so
high that the intensive emission of electrons take place.

At higher voltage the emission or sparks make low VSWR.

oh, so the swr changes with transmitter power?
I wrote: "You know what to do to have low VSWR". Do you?
that is an observable

prediction that is obviously false... go back to square 1 and start
your theory over again.

Here no new theory. Pulsative flow and the field emission are very old.

Is the pulsative flow of electrons in antennas?
S*

no, the flow of electrons stays in the antenna and is sinusoidal...
they do not jump off the antenna.

On 10/10/2010 5:11 PM, K1TTT wrote:

...
no, the flow of electrons stays in the antenna and is sinusoidal...
they do not jump off the antenna.

Do you people realize, I puke every time this putrid piece of chit posts
.... just in case you were wondering ... why would anyone tolerate doodoo?

Regards,
JS

On Oct 11, 3:38*am, John Smith wrote:
On 10/10/2010 5:11 PM, K1TTT wrote:

...
no, the flow of electrons stays in the antenna and is sinusoidal...
they do not jump off the antenna.

Do you people realize, I puke every time this putrid piece of chit posts
... just in case you were wondering ... why would anyone tolerate doodoo?

Regards,
JS

great way to loose weight!

On 10/11/2010 2:47 AM, K1TTT wrote:

...
great way to loose weight!

Brother, some arse has found a way to duplicate my posts, exactly ...
even for me, that is NOT a response I would have advanced ... it is
mildly annoying, I'll give 'em that ... but hey, it happens ...

Regards,
JS

"K1TTT" wrote
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On Oct 10, 3:04 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

Is the pulsative flow of electrons in antennas?

no, the flow of electrons stays in the antenna and is sinusoidal...

In a cristal radio is the diode. The electrons flow from the antenna to
ground. Where they come from?

they do not jump off the antenna.

They must do it in the transmitting antenna.
They are members of "pulsatile- composed of a mean
flow superposed with an oscillating component".

In reality no "sinusoidal...". The forward motion is always stronger than
the back.
S*

On Oct 11, 3:43*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"K1TTT" ...
On Oct 10, 3:04 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



Is the pulsative flow of electrons in antennas?
no, the flow of electrons stays in the antenna and is sinusoidal...

In a cristal radio is the diode. The electrons flow from the antenna to
ground. Where they come from?

they do not jump off the antenna.

They must do it in the transmitting antenna.
They are members of "pulsatile- composed of a mean
flow superposed with an oscillating component".

In reality no "sinusoidal...". The forward motion is always stronger than
the back.
S*

give me a number. if i transmit 1kw on 14mhz how much dc current must
my transmitter be supplying in addition to the 1kw ac sinusoid that my
meter measures??

On Oct 11, 2:43*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"K1TTT" ...
On Oct 10, 3:04 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
In a cristal radio is the diode. The electrons flow from the antenna to
ground. Where they come from?

"... for a copper wire of radius 1 mm carrying a steady current of 10
amps, the (electron) drift velocity is only about 0.024 cm/sec". At
100 ns per RF cycle, the above electron moves back and forth about 10
nanometers, i.e. it doesn't "flow" anywhere except at DC.

At RF those electrons never make it from the antenna to ground and
instead essentially vibrate in place. The only thing that flows at the
speed of light is photons/fields/waves. The slow-moving vibrating
electron carriers form a bucket brigade for the fast moving photonic
energy. That fact of physics wasn't fully understood until the field
of quantum physics matured. EM fields and waves turned out to be
particles that are photonic in nature.
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

K1TTT wrote:

no, the flow of electrons stays in the antenna and is sinusoidal...
they do not jump off the antenna.

Accch! Look what happens when I take a weekend off!

Okay now. I have the N3LI legal department working overtime now.

I am the person who invented the particles leaving the antenna theory.
Not Art, in fact I declare prior Art, or even prior to Art.

Ive posted it before but probably before you joined the group, so here
goes.....


The process of electromagnetic communications is all based upon tiny
little turds that reside on your antenna. Very small turds they are, yet
very powerful.

While transmitting, the little turds jump off the antenna, fly into the
atmosphere or aether, and then eventually land on a receiver's antenna,
completing the circuit.

This is why it is important to transmit every so often, so that your
antenna does not gain too much weight. During solar maximum, inactive
Hams often have their crappy antennas fall down.

Near the ocean the situation is worse, ya gotta transmit even more
often, lest ye be shoveling s**t against the tide.

And it is a well known fact that antennas that are used more for
transmitting take on a much higher polish, because there are less little
turds, and everyone knows you cant polish a.... oh never mind.

Anyhow, despite some twisted language, it is obvious that these
particles are a mer attempt to subvert the original and correct theory.


- Mike -

"Michael Coslo" wrote
...
K1TTT wrote:

no, the flow of electrons stays in the antenna and is sinusoidal...
they do not jump off the antenna.

Accch! Look what happens when I take a weekend off!

Okay now. I have the N3LI legal department working overtime now.

I am the person who invented the particles leaving the antenna theory.
Not Art, in fact I declare prior Art, or even prior to Art.

Ive posted it before but probably before you joined the group, so here
goes.....


The process of electromagnetic communications is all based upon tiny
little turds that reside on your antenna. Very small turds they are, yet
very powerful.

While transmitting, the little turds jump off the antenna, fly into the
atmosphere or aether, and then eventually land on a receiver's antenna,
completing the circuit.

So they should be taken from the ground, send in the ether, land on a
receiver's antenna and flow to ground, completing the circuit. Is it
possible to detect it?

This is why it is important to transmit every so often, so that your
antenna does not gain too much weight. During solar maximum, inactive Hams
often have their crappy antennas fall down.

Near the ocean the situation is worse, ya gotta transmit even more often,
lest ye be shoveling s**t against the tide.

And it is a well known fact that antennas that are used more for
transmitting take on a much higher polish, because there are less little
turds, and everyone knows you cant polish a.... oh never mind.

Anyhow, despite some twisted language, it is obvious that these particles
are a mer attempt to subvert the original and correct theory.

S*