On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 08:53:32 -0800 (PST), K1TTT
wrote:

On Dec 31, 4:01*pm, John Ferrell wrote:
I am helping to install a 135 foot dipole on a hillside for HF
activity. The antenna will be at least 45 feet from the ground in any
direction. I can believe EZNEC so far as the effects of ground on
impedance. but I am at a loss when it comes to considering the
patterns on the various bands. The ridge is about 200 feet from the
antenna.

This is for a club member who recently upgraded to General Class.

Since the ridge is close to the same height and south of the antenna,
I am guessing that the computed charts will be a good representation
of the northern half of the antenna. NVIS should not change much. The
terrain may work as a reflector for over the pole operation. I am
afraid the antenna will be of little use to the south.

I expect we will eventually need to do the best we can with an antenna
on the top of the ridge. When the snow melts I will try to climb the
ridge for a look-see. It will likely be difficult to install due the
dense trees.

Any comments, advice, suggestions etc. are appreciated!
John Ferrell W8CCW

just put it up, hook up a tuner if the radio doesn't have one, and
have fun. you can spend all your time modeling trying to figure out
what it may look like, but if you are limited on how you can install
it you can't really control much anyway. an antenna laying on the
ground works much better than one that is only in your computer!

No argument from me! It is going up as planned as soon as the new
General gets a little more time to work with me on the project.

The hillside we are working on is a little tricky for us to deal with
while snow covered but in this part of North Carolina it does not snow
often or stay long.

We need to keep his enthusiasm up with some positive results.

John Ferrell W8CCW

I agree, just put it up, feed it with open wire feeders, tune it and talk. What you get is what you get.

Занялся своим автомобилем, подремантировать, наладить. Где можно найти качественные запчасти ЯМЗ подскажите?

I really do not know how to answer this reply...

On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:44:09 +0000, YarTransAvto
wrote:


Занялся
своим
автомобилем,
подремантировать,
наладить.
Где можно
найти
качественные
' запчасти
ЯМЗ' (http://www.yartransavto.ru/)
подскажите?
John Ferrell W8CCW

On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:41:52 -0500, John Ferrell rearranged some electrons
to say:

I really do not know how to answer this reply...

On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:44:09 +0000, YarTransAvto
wrote:
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John Ferrell W8CCW

John, I hope you didn't click on the link, it's probably a virus.

de AJ4TF

I put a lot of trust in my Norton Internet Security. The link is in
Russian and appears to be about an engine.

On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 02:29:41 +0000 (UTC), david
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:41:52 -0500, John Ferrell rearranged some electrons
to say:

I really do not know how to answer this reply...

On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:44:09 +0000, YarTransAvto
wrote:
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John Ferrell W8CCW

John, I hope you didn't click on the link, it's probably a virus.

de AJ4TF
John Ferrell W8CCW

On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:50:49 -0500, John Ferrell rearranged some electrons
to say:

I put a lot of trust in my Norton Internet Security.
John Ferrell W8CCW

I don't trust anything by Norton.

de AJ4TF

I agree with ka7niq. Open wire is the only way to go. I'm using a 135 foot dipole with open wire and it works great.

Larry
wa8qnn

I am all FOR Computer Modeling, but I sometimes see people afraid to wipe their ass w/o modeling the toilet paper first. For God's sakes, just put the dam thing up, and what you get is what you get.
I have had center fed 80 meter dipoles operated on all bands fed with ladder line defy the "predicted patterns". Perhaps this was because of the ground in my area, or feed line radiation ? Whatever, who really cares ? The old saying "If it talks good, but models bad, invent a new way to model" applies here. The Bumblebee don't know, nor does it care, that it should not be able to fly.