Sal M. Onella wrote:


This is only a test post. I have responded to this particular item
twice, once on Sunday and once yesterday. Neither one showed up.
Nothing in what I said would have been censored for any reason. Odd.
I think it said post was successful. I'm checking that now and will
wait to see if this appears in the group.

"Sal"

It's unlikely you will see this, but google groups has been
down since the 25th. It seems to be allowing posts, but it's
not showing any new posts since the 25th.
That's why you are not seeing your posts.

On Jun 26, 8:34*pm, Mike Coslo wrote:
On 6/26/2011 2:56 PM, John S wrote:

On 6/26/2011 12:46 PM, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names wrote:
And some of us just throw up a piece of wire and are happy with it.

And some of us strive for a higher education. To each his own.

And we get that higher education in a netnews group? I enjoy this group,
but it's the equivalent to getting marriage advice at a bar. Maybe good,
but just as likely really bad.

* * * * - 73 de Mike N3LI -

Oh, Mike, you made a funny! Having been married for more than forty
years, I'm surprised to learn there is even such a thing as good
marriage advice.

73,
Sal

On Jun 27, 6:33*am, Mike Coslo wrote:


As for folks tuning up rain gutters and wire salvaged from an old
toaster, then making an antenna out of it, that's fun too, but the final
result isn't likely to be optimum.



Yes!

I know I've told this story here before, but ...

My first HF antenna was a 10m vertical sleeve dipole. It was mounted
only a few feet above ground. With a tuner,
I matched 15m but not 20m. I knew I needed more metal on at least one
element, so I grabbed a clip lead and a hunk of wire and headed
outside. Near the antenna, I almost tripped over an extension ladder
laying on the ground. This is a sign, I thought. I tossed the wire
and dragged the ladder over to the dipole and clipped it onto the
lower element.

Back inside, I tuned up nicely on 20m and answered a CQ. Had a nice
chat with a fellow in Hawaii; five-by copy both ways.

Some wag in this group suggested "ladder line" might improve the
setup. Good one.

"Sal"

On Jun 26, 10:46*am, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
wrote:

snip

And some of us just throw up a piece of wire and are happy with it.

True, but that ignores what is for me the essence of our hobby,
namely,
"Let's try this and see what happens." We're looking for betterment.

Sometime we make smoke (Me, twice, so far.)
Sometime we make a pleasing discovery. (Me, too many times to count.)

I will not be changing to the " ... throw a piece of wire ..." school
of thought,
as my organized (or maybe semi-organized :-) experimental process is
more enjoyable.

I should add I spend more time in QSO than I do playing with the
theory.

73,
"Sal"

On 6/26/2011 10:34 PM, Mike Coslo wrote:
On 6/26/2011 2:56 PM, John S wrote:
On 6/26/2011 12:46 PM, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names wrote:

And some of us just throw up a piece of wire and are happy with it.

And some of us strive for a higher education. To each his own.

And we get that higher education in a netnews group? I enjoy this group,
but it's the equivalent to getting marriage advice at a bar. Maybe good,
but just as likely really bad.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

I'm sure the people who provide answers to questions here are happy to
read what you think of them.

John

On Jun 28, 6:55*pm, NM5K wrote:


It's unlikely you will see this, but google groups has been
down since the 25th. It seems to be allowing posts, but it's
not showing any new posts since the 25th.
That's why you are not seeing your posts.

Thanks.

Posts seem now to be showing in bursts, but few (?) close to real
time.
Time to spend money for a more dependable newsreader, I suppose.

Sal M. Onella wrote:

On Jun 28, 6:55 pm, NM5K wrote:


It's unlikely you will see this, but google groups has been
down since the 25th. It seems to be allowing posts, but it's
not showing any new posts since the 25th.
That's why you are not seeing your posts.

Thanks.

Posts seem now to be showing in bursts, but few (?) close to real
time.
Time to spend money for a more dependable newsreader, I suppose.

I sort of expect they will get it straightened out before
too long. I think they are doing some massive changes. The
search engine, groups, the whole mess..
Supposably July 1 is when the new system is supposed to
be kicked in. Whether GG will be right by then, who knows..
I'm using eternal-september.org right now. It's pretty
good for a free news server.
But believe it or not, I actually prefer google groups.
Some people shake their heads when I say that, but screw
em if they can't take a joke.. :/
To me, the web based reader is faster and less cumbersome
than using the regular news readers.
Fer instance, on the regular reader I have to look at each
post individually. With GG I see all posts in a thread at
once. It's faster..
Also, if I start fresh on the news server, I have to log in
with my user name and password. And then I have to type in
the new groups I want to look at.. What a pain..
Where as GG, as my usual groups are saved with my "profile"
or whatever you want to call it.
I'll think I'll keep both going, but if they get GG back
in order, I'll likely revert back to it, and keep the
eternal-september.org as a backup.

I looked it up on google it says 'GOAT' definition 'tom KOTAR' fancy that!

"NM5K" wrote in message
...

snip

I'm using eternal-september.org right now. It's pretty
good for a free news server.
But believe it or not, I actually prefer google groups.
Some people shake their heads when I say that, but screw
em if they can't take a joke.. :/

snip

Also, if I start fresh on the news server, I have to log in
with my user name and password.

snip

I'll think I'll keep both going, but if they get GG back
in order, I'll likely revert back to it, and keep the
eternal-september.org as a backup.

Good news.

I tried eternal september.org on Win XP in my shack
and it works. This response is through
them using the Outlook Express client, which I
was using before my ISP shut off its NG server.
Good tip. Thanks.

I notice the spam distractions are absent. Good.

Next trick, getting it to work on the iMac, for which I
do not currently have a newsreader. (Betas of the
next Apple OS are said to have major enhancements
to Apple Mail. Fingers crossed for that to include
a newsreader.)

Regarding your login hassle, it is avoidable. My
news client does it for me automatically and
displays my subscribed groups as folders.

True, Outlook Express is bad, but not ALL bad ;-)

"Sal"
..

"Sal" wrote in :
....
I tried eternal september.org on Win XP in my shack
and it works. This response is through

I also tried september.org using the XNews client which offers much richer
filtering than you get through most newsreaders... and doesn't have the
bottlenecks and stalls that Google Groups has, with or without its new
interface.

Owen