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I hate this reverse posting, so I'm changing.
First Henry (Thinks for the swell phone conversation) has the idea in basic form: Henry Kolesnik wrote: [...snip...] "I know that any power not dissipated by an antenna is reflected back to the transmitter. Then the transmitter "reflects" this reflection back to antenna, ad nauseum until its all gone. ....I'm inclined to think it's a virtual open but I'm at a loss to understand that and I wonder if someone has a good explanation or analogy and some math wouldn't hurt". Hank uses the term "virtual open" a rather loose term but a good model, however, keep in mind that he is talking about a system with NO "matching device" as we call it, just a transmitter. He is also talking about the REVERSE DIRECTION where all the power gets reflected back to the load and we all live happily after. (the same concept applies for a matching device, as well) Then in a longer version, Cecil quotes (see below), but he is referring to a matching device. He is also directing his attention to the forward direction, unlike Hank above, and he moves to the matching device's input. What the concept here is, concerns what the forward wave sees at the matching input so that there is no net reflected power. The concept is this: One wave from the transmitter (call it wave "A") hits the matching device. Some makes it through toward the load and some is reflected back toward the Tx due to the matching device's weird impedance...HOWEVER, the wave coming from the load has some component which makes it through the matching section to the input (call this wave "B"). It is wave "A" abd wave B"B which must be equal in amplitude and 180 degrees out - therefore cencelling for a net wave back toward the Tx of null, naught, zip..all is happy in the world of ham radio -- Steve N, K,9;d, c. i My email has no u's. P.S. Get this MPT blockage out of your minds... The "maximum power therom" (ZL=Zs) ONLY applies to ONE special case, NOT all cases. That case is where the source's output power (or if you like current) capability is limited ONLY by the two resistances. That is, the case is when the source can put out all the power needed by these resistors and no other internal limit dominates. A common circuit can be shown to give maximum power at other than Zs=ZL (aparently violating the above referred-to therom). There are things other than these resistances that limit the output power of a practical source.... (see how long this thread goes..... "Cecil Moore" wrote in message ... Hank, Here's what happens at the match point in an amateur radio antenna system. Walter Maxwell himself references J. C. Slater's book. From _Microwave_Transmission_, by J. C. Slater: "We can get a better understanding of (matching) devices by considering reflections at discontinuities. This method is useful in considering any impedance- matching device, and we shall think of it first in connection with the ordinary quarter-wave transformer. The object of this transformer is to eliminate the reflection that would be present if the impedance Z1 were connected directly to Zt." The diagram is: Z1----1/4WL Z0----Zt where Z0 is a 1/4WL transformer section that matches Z1 to Zt. "The method of eliminating reflections is based on the interference between waves. Two waves half a wavelength apart are in opposite phases, and the sum of them, if their amplitudes are numerically equal, is zero. The fundamental principle behind the elimination of reflections is then to have each reflected wave canceled by another wave of equal amplitude and opposite phase. In order that this second wave may have traveled half a wavelength farther than the first, it is obvious that it must have gone a quarter wavelength farther up the line, and correspondingly a quarter of a wavelength back, before it meets the original reflected wave. In other words, two discontinuities in characteristic impedance, of such magnitude as to give equal amplitudes of reflected waves and spaced a quarter of a wavelength apart, will give no net reflection and hence will not introduce reflections into the line." Here's how to perform an experiment to answer your questions. The source (SGCL) is a Signal Generator equipped with a Circulator and Load. It puts out a constant 100 watts. All reflected power is dissipated in the circulator load. very short 100W SGCL---50 ohm line---tuner----------450 ohm line------------Load Initially, the system is tuned for a match so there are no reflections on the 50 ohm line. Then the load is changed to 450 ohms. Assuming the load was not 450 ohms to start with, this will cause reflections to appear on the 50 ohm line. We can use an oscilloscope to measure the magnitude and phase of the voltage across the 50 ohm circulator load resistor. That's the reflected voltage. We can calculate the reflected current through the 50 ohm circulator load resistor. So now we have the component voltage and current reflected from the input to the tuner. We can reference the phase of the reflected voltage and current to the phase of the source voltage. Let's say the source voltage has a reference phase of zero degrees. Assume we measured a reflected voltage of 30 volts at 10 degrees and calculated a reflected current of 0.6 amps at 190 degrees. (Note that the reflected current is always 180 degrees out of phase with the reflected voltage.) Now switch the load from 450 ohms back to the original load. What happens at the tuner input to achieve a match is the superposition of two reflected waves. We know what the first one looks like so we deduce what the second one looks like. The first reflected wave, reflected from match point at the tuner input is: 30 volts at 10 degrees and 0.6 amps at 190 degrees The second reflected wave, returning from the load and reaching the match point at the tuner input is: 30 volts at 190 degrees and 0.6 amps at 10 degrees Adding those two voltages yields zero volts. Adding those two currents yields zero amps. Thus the match is accomplished. What the tuner does is shift the magnitude and phase of the voltage and current reflected from the load to cancel the reflection of the source wave that occurs at the input of the tuner. The reflected voltage flowing toward the source is canceled to zero through superposition of the two reflected voltage waves. The reflected current flowing toward the source is canceled to zero through superposition of the two reflected current waves. That's how all matching devices work according to J. C. Slater. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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