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Old January 12th 12, 07:33 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Thanks Dave

But once again, little too little, little too late.

But nice try,

Again, lets let it be. Lets not dwell on it.

73s





"dave" wrote in message
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowline

The next link will be to a psych medication

My "tower" is a fiberglass mast. It has 3 guys at about 1/5 the way up,
to keep bending force off the base. The rest is 6 tubes stacked up and a
#12 copper wire coming back down the inside. Very graceful in the wind;
it can bend over 90 degrees and always rights itself, just like a good
sailboat should. Cheers.


On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:45:26 -0500, Tuuk wrote:

No Dave

Not a good idea to simply tie knots in your guy lines.

Because after a while the wind and rain and wind and rain will slowly
cause them to come untied. Very bad idea, very bad advice.

You would be wise to at least tape the heck out of those knots, so to
prevent them from coming undone, and your tower or antenna falling over.
I mean that is the purpose of the guy lines.

But a simple granny knot wont work Dave. Once again Dave, some bad
advice. Have you ever owned a boat? lol,,, I bet you tied it up one day,
came out the next and it was gone. lol,,, oh my,, that is too funny.

I recomment starting an immediate course with the Cubs, then work into
Boy Scouts, they will teach you Dave how to properly secure something
using nylon rope or any kind of rope. Never tie a granny knot Dave, you
should never, ever tie a granny knot for your guy wire for your tower.
Lol,,, your neighbors are probably sleeping on pins those windy nights.
Oh my.

Turnbuckles are cheap and easy way to keep tension equal and tight on
towers. Make sure your connections are tight and never use granny knots,
use clamps or at least a double Winchester,,, lol,,, oh,,, oh my,,,
Dave,,, you got me today Dave... Oh stop it... lol,,,, oh my.... Tie
your tower with a granny knot... Oh my... lol,,,, Dave you are the
limit.

73s






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On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 07:38:39 -0500, Jason Washington wrote:

With regular guy wires, we have metal turnbuckles to adjust tension in
the wire, but what about for nylon? I recently built an antenna that
uses nylon rope for antenna support at various spots. I need to
adjust the tension in the nylon rope and I'd rather not use metal
turnbuckles as there are a lot of spots that need adjustment and I
don't want interaction with the antenna. What's the alternative?
Thanks

Is it Nylon or Dacron? Anyway, I just tie knots in mine.



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Old January 13th 12, 04:06 AM
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Simple solution to the knot problem.

Tie your knot's and then use a zip tie to hold it in place - on the ropes past the knots.

You can buy inexpensive - small GB zip ties in Lowes - for a couple of dollars per 100 ties.

Tape will also come loose after prolonged exposure to sun and weather.

Then again, I limit most of my purchases of electrical tape to Scotch 33 brand 3M tape. The cheap stuff never seems to hold up anyways.
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Old January 13th 12, 02:19 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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That is good idea, something to stop the knot from coming undone.


Dave just ties a granny knot on the bottom of his guy wires. Seems to work
for him, 1/5 the way down. I was a little worried there as these simple
knots can come undone after a few wind storms.






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Simple solution to the knot problem.

Tie your knot's and then use a zip tie to hold it in place - on the
ropes past the knots.

You can buy inexpensive - small GB zip ties in Lowes - for a couple of
dollars per 100 ties.

Tape will also come loose after prolonged exposure to sun and weather.

Then again, I limit most of my purchases of electrical tape to Scotch 33
brand 3M tape. The cheap stuff never seems to hold up anyways.




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Old January 14th 12, 04:05 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Dave

Sorry about that last post. I thought I was taking a handful of Viagra,
but it was really Prozac.

Lets let it be





Thanks Dave

But once again, little too little, little too late.

But nice try,

Again, lets let it be. Lets not dwell on it.

73s





"dave" wrote in message
m...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowline

The next link will be to a psych medication

My "tower" is a fiberglass mast. It has 3 guys at about 1/5 the way up,
to keep bending force off the base. The rest is 6 tubes stacked up and
a #12 copper wire coming back down the inside. Very graceful in the
wind; it can bend over 90 degrees and always rights itself, just like a
good sailboat should. Cheers.


On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:45:26 -0500, Tuuk wrote:

No Dave

Not a good idea to simply tie knots in your guy lines.

Because after a while the wind and rain and wind and rain will slowly
cause them to come untied. Very bad idea, very bad advice.

You would be wise to at least tape the heck out of those knots, so to
prevent them from coming undone, and your tower or antenna falling
over.
I mean that is the purpose of the guy lines.

But a simple granny knot wont work Dave. Once again Dave, some bad
advice. Have you ever owned a boat? lol,,, I bet you tied it up one
day,
came out the next and it was gone. lol,,, oh my,, that is too funny.

I recomment starting an immediate course with the Cubs, then work into
Boy Scouts, they will teach you Dave how to properly secure something
using nylon rope or any kind of rope. Never tie a granny knot Dave,
you should never, ever tie a granny knot for your guy wire for your
tower. Lol,,, your neighbors are probably sleeping on pins those windy
nights. Oh my.

Turnbuckles are cheap and easy way to keep tension equal and tight on
towers. Make sure your connections are tight and never use granny
knots,
use clamps or at least a double Winchester,,, lol,,, oh,,, oh my,,,
Dave,,, you got me today Dave... Oh stop it... lol,,,, oh my.... Tie
your tower with a granny knot... Oh my... lol,,,, Dave you are the
limit.

73s






"dave" wrote in message
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On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 07:38:39 -0500, Jason Washington wrote:

With regular guy wires, we have metal turnbuckles to adjust tension
in the wire, but what about for nylon? I recently built an antenna
that uses nylon rope for antenna support at various spots. I need
to adjust the tension in the nylon rope and I'd rather not use metal
turnbuckles as there are a lot of spots that need adjustment and I
don't want interaction with the antenna. What's the alternative?
Thanks

Is it Nylon or Dacron? Anyway, I just tie knots in mine.



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Hi David

Again, what you did here was illegal and unethical.

You mirrorred me, or ghosted me. Meaning you put my names in your newsreader
account so you would look like me posting. But you should have put a couple
of spaces before the Tuuk,,, and it still actually shows your server. So
very bad attempt at doing something illegal and unethical david.

Sorry I have gotten you so upset david..

73s






"Tuuk" wrote in message
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Dave

Sorry about that last post. I thought I was taking a handful of Viagra,
but it was really Prozac.

Lets let it be





Thanks Dave

But once again, little too little, little too late.

But nice try,

Again, lets let it be. Lets not dwell on it.

73s





"dave" wrote in message
m...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowline

The next link will be to a psych medication

My "tower" is a fiberglass mast. It has 3 guys at about 1/5 the way up,
to keep bending force off the base. The rest is 6 tubes stacked up and
a #12 copper wire coming back down the inside. Very graceful in the
wind; it can bend over 90 degrees and always rights itself, just like a
good sailboat should. Cheers.


On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:45:26 -0500, Tuuk wrote:

No Dave

Not a good idea to simply tie knots in your guy lines.

Because after a while the wind and rain and wind and rain will slowly
cause them to come untied. Very bad idea, very bad advice.

You would be wise to at least tape the heck out of those knots, so to
prevent them from coming undone, and your tower or antenna falling
over.
I mean that is the purpose of the guy lines.

But a simple granny knot wont work Dave. Once again Dave, some bad
advice. Have you ever owned a boat? lol,,, I bet you tied it up one
day,
came out the next and it was gone. lol,,, oh my,, that is too funny.

I recomment starting an immediate course with the Cubs, then work into
Boy Scouts, they will teach you Dave how to properly secure something
using nylon rope or any kind of rope. Never tie a granny knot Dave,
you should never, ever tie a granny knot for your guy wire for your
tower. Lol,,, your neighbors are probably sleeping on pins those windy
nights. Oh my.

Turnbuckles are cheap and easy way to keep tension equal and tight on
towers. Make sure your connections are tight and never use granny
knots,
use clamps or at least a double Winchester,,, lol,,, oh,,, oh my,,,
Dave,,, you got me today Dave... Oh stop it... lol,,,, oh my.... Tie
your tower with a granny knot... Oh my... lol,,,, Dave you are the
limit.

73s






"dave" wrote in message
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On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 07:38:39 -0500, Jason Washington wrote:

With regular guy wires, we have metal turnbuckles to adjust tension
in the wire, but what about for nylon? I recently built an antenna
that uses nylon rope for antenna support at various spots. I need
to adjust the tension in the nylon rope and I'd rather not use metal
turnbuckles as there are a lot of spots that need adjustment and I
don't want interaction with the antenna. What's the alternative?
Thanks

Is it Nylon or Dacron? Anyway, I just tie knots in mine.




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