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Increasing Cable TV signal strength
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:32:34 -0600, tom wrote:
On 2/9/2012 10:27 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: You wouldn't know what a constellation measurement was if one bit you in the ass, much less understand it. Nuff said. Holy crap! He's made it to the 1970s! tom K0TAR Hardly,retard boy. They didn't do 10Gb/s, and neither did you... ever. http://www.defensetechbriefs.com/ima...0-541_fig2.png http://www.defensetechbriefs.com/com.../article/12855 |
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On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:07:01 -0600, tom wrote:
Very nice. We were much more constrained on the install I mentioned up the thread a ways. The fiber was fed at E1 speed, which probably didn't work it very hard. Bwuahahahahahahahahahaahha! You are too stupid to even know how to say OC-192! |
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The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:07:01 -0600, tom wrote: Very nice. We were much more constrained on the install I mentioned up the thread a ways. The fiber was fed at E1 speed, which probably didn't work it very hard. Bwuahahahahahahahahahaahha! You are too stupid to even know how to say OC-192! http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert...dOCont.en.html I can Google too! -- VWW, P.E. ,K6EVE |
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On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:47:31 -0800, VWWall wrote:
The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:07:01 -0600, tom wrote: Very nice. We were much more constrained on the install I mentioned up the thread a ways. The fiber was fed at E1 speed, which probably didn't work it very hard. Bwuahahahahahahahahahaahha! You are too stupid to even know how to say OC-192! It wasn't from google, idiot. It is what I work with daily. More than an order of magnitude more, in fact. Over 300Gb/s Here's another link for you, dork: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_band Oh, and did I say **** YOU, Wall boy? |
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Hellequin wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:47:31 -0800, VWWall wrote: The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:07:01 -0600, tom wrote: Very nice. We were much more constrained on the install I mentioned up the thread a ways. The fiber was fed at E1 speed, which probably didn't work it very hard. Bwuahahahahahahahahahaahha! You are too stupid to even know how to say OC-192! It wasn't from google, idiot. It is what I work with daily. More than an order of magnitude more, in fact. Over 300Gb/s Tell us more about your work. You must not be doing much, since you're always on Usenet. Do you work the graveyard janitorial shift? Here's another link for you, dork: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_band Oh, and did I say **** YOU, Wall boy? Wikipedia is also handy for things you know nothing about! What's Ku got to do with anything. I was designing and using Ku TWTAs over twenty years ago. I was system engineering director for several military satellites systems, including those for the UK and NATO. These did not use Ku because of the problem with rain attenuation. P.S. How about a reply using one of the many Linux systems you mention? -- VWW |
Increasing Cable TV signal strength
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:18:53 -0800, VWWall wrote:
Wikipedia is also handy for things you know nothing about! Yes. So people like you can give a cursory glance to a given term or subject. As for me, the things I mentioned are things I *do* know something about. Sorry, you fail. Just like the others. This group is full of dopes like you, who know nothing about people, and even less about the world. |
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On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:18:53 -0800, VWWall wrote:
Tell us more about your work. How many personalities did the doc say you have? You must not be doing much, I do a lot. since you're always on Usenet. How many mistakes can you make in one post? I post here during the period in which I am at home. Can you really be that retarded? Do you work the graveyard janitorial shift? Graveyards do not have janitors, idiot. They have groundskeepers. Any idiot with half a brain could figure out that I work during the day, dumb****. |
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On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:18:53 -0800, VWWall wrote:
Wikipedia is also handy for things you know nothing about! For idiots like you who visit it, that is always the case. What's Ku got to do with anything. It has to do with a lot of things. Most folks refer to them as "packets". I was designing and using Ku TWTAs over twenty years ago. Good for you. Now, you are an old, jack brained ****tard who jumped on the s.e.d jack brained ****tard bandwagon, and*I* am working with modern, advanced ku systems. I was system engineering director for several military satellites systems, And now you are a withering old **** who comes in here mouthing petty horse**** about someone as if you know them, when you, in fact, have no clue about anything about them. What you are doing is jumping on the petty, immature asshole bandwagon. You are a special case type asswipe. including those for the UK and NATO. Oh boy! Mine are mobile! You're a joke! These did not use Ku because of the problem with rain attenuation. Not as bad as other bands and worse than some others. Easy enough to get around. P.S. How about a reply using one of the many Linux systems you mention? WTF does Linux have to do with any ****ing thing, and why would I go out of my way to do a goddamned thing for a mouthy punk **** like you? Then, there is the fact that I could be running this very "agent" session from within a DOS vdm from within a Linux base session, and a dopey **** like you wouldn't know the difference and couldn't tell the difference. |
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On Feb 9, 6:35*pm, "Sal" wrote:
"JIMMIE" wrote in message ... On Feb 8, 2:00 pm, amdx wrote: Hi All, I'm on a boat, about 170ft from the utility post. Recently our cable company switched to the wonderful world of Digital TV. I got the new digital converter and had no picture. I took the box back and got a second box, still no picture. So now I suspect a weak signal and confirm that it is the cable length. The cable company came out and gave me a better cable than I had installed. At this point I have a picture but it is intermittent. The signal at the utility post has 3 outputs and had a four way splitter, I suggested the cable guy put in two 2 way splitters and give me the stronger (first) tap. That got my signal to work almost all the time. I'd like to get the signal to work 100% of the time. I don't has access to electricity at the utility post, so an amp is out. Although I could try an amp at the cable box end. Is that reasonable? I would run two cables if there was a way to make it increase signal strength. Getting anymore from the cable company is not an option. Any ideas to get a better signal? Mikek PS. When the signal fails it seems channel 41 is ok and above 42 it breaks up. Curious to know if there is an unusual frequency jump between those two digital channels. Google your cable box model. You should able to find ifo on how to pull up a menu that shows signal strengh. -60dbm is about where my sigal starts droping out Jimmie ================================================== === Yes, but be mindful of the difference between dBm and dBmV. * *The cable industry often deals in levels *on the dBmV scale. There are places like this ... http://www.maxim-ic.com/app-notes/index.mvp/id/808 where you can see some conversion equations. *Jimmie's -60dBm equals -11.25 dBmV. Same power level -- different scale. I have long known level requirements for the TV tuner's cousin, the cable modem. *The common DOCSIS 2 cable modems are usually spec'ed for -15dBmV to +15dBmV and the smart operators try to keep inside +/- 12. *Thus, you can see that Jimmie's -11.25dBmV is near the low limit and that dropouts become more likely in that neighborhood. I little bit of google snooping revealed that DTV cable boxes would like 0dBmV and will usually be okay with -10dBmV to +10dBmV. *Almost the same. i hope this helps. "Sal" "Sal"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sal, A relative number by any other name would smell as sweet. The reccomendations for my box is about the same but it works well below that at least according to what I measure withe the cable box. BTW it just says 'db'. dBm was an assumption on my part.. Jimmie Jimmie |
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On Feb 9, 12:01*pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:54:19 -0600, amdx wrote: My drivel: At my home, knology recently upgraded there system for faster internet.. A cableman said he heard me radiating a block away. he came in and changed 7 crimp type connectors in my attic a couple of cable runs. Speedtest.com went from 6 Mbps to over 11 Mbps with just those changes.. Yep, that's the way it works. *Compression type F connectors work well. *Crimp type are junk. *The catch is that there are probably 100 different types of connectors, each with their own compression tools, intended to fit about 8 different types of 75 ohm coax (RG6a/u, RG59/u, single shielded, double shielded, quad shielded, direct burial, etc). *Mixing connector types and cables doesn't work. *I got fed up and "obtained" a 1000ft roll of double shielded RG6a/u, a big of matching F, BNC, and phono connectors, a compression tool, a stripping tool, and replaced all the junk cables in the house. If it's Comcast, you will probably still have the lower 72 channels doing analog. Remove the set top box and plug in your TV directly. Oh, if that is the fact, I may get me some browny points, If I can get the signal up to snuff, then put the vcr back in the line, my wife could record her soaps again. That would get me 15 seconds of hero status! Mikek I'm sure it's true for Comcast in Santa Cruz, CA. *No clue on other areas. *The grand plan is to move all the analog channels to digital area by area: http://www2.insidenova.com/news/2011/jun/22/comcast-removes-scores-ch... http://www2.newsadvance.com/business/2011/nov/09/comcast-switching-an... Unfortunately, your area may be one of those that have moved to all digital. *Hard to tell from here. Just an addition to the termination debate, the marina has about 150 taps, I'd be surprised if 30 of them are connected to a tv and the rest are unterminated. The line generally goes to the utility pedestal into a 2 way splitter and then about 1 ft of cable connects it to the 2 taps for the boat owners. * * * * * * *Mikek Can you determine if the marina is using a distribution amplifier driving a big splitter, or is using a single cable trunk snaked through the marina, with taps (directional couplers) at various points? *If taps, it's easy to install too many taps, or miscalculate the tap type, resulting in level variations along the trunk. http://www.doityourself.com/forum/entertainment-center-tvs-stereos-vc... -- Jeff Liebermann * * 150 Felker St #D * *http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann * * AE6KS * *831-336-2558 Jeff, I installed TVRO systems for several years and used a lot of F connectors. Suprisingly the ones I found that worked best were the ultra cheap ones that only took a pair of pliers to fasten These were the ones with the separate crimp rings. Used with some good quality heat shrink tubing this eliminated most of the problems you mention. I dont know why these connectors went away, my only guess is that someone wasn't making enough money on them. Jimmie Jimmie |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:17:03 -0800 (PST), JIMMIE
wrote: Jeff, I installed TVRO systems for several years and used a lot of F connectors. Suprisingly the ones I found that worked best were the ultra cheap ones that only took a pair of pliers to fasten These were the ones with the separate crimp rings. Used with some good quality heat shrink tubing this eliminated most of the problems you mention. I dont know why these connectors went away, my only guess is that someone wasn't making enough money on them. Jimmie Yech... Please try this test. Insert such a crimp type F connector and cable into some useless piece of equipment with a type F jack. Pull on the cable hard. In my experience, it doesn't take much to make the cable and connector part ways. Repeat with a screw on connector. Now, repeat the experiment using a properly assembled compression type F connector and cable. It takes considerably more brute force to break the connection. I think the official minimum pull test is 55 lbs, but I'm too lazy to Google for it now. Hiding the workmanship under shrink tube is not very functional. It will have little effect on the pull test. Most of the cable leakage problems I've seen (and found) were due to crimp type F connectors coming apart or badly crimped. That includes both the hex shaped crimp, and ones held together with a crimped ring. Bad: http://www.fconnector.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/F-Connector2.jpg Worse: http://www.showmecables.com/images/catalog/product/F-connector-RG59.jpg.ashx?format=jpg Good: http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/783250/783250926510lg.jpg -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:27:00 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra
wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:02:35 +0000, Pomegranate ******* wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 06:44:45 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:12:15 +0000, Pomegranate ******* wrote: Would you please supply some evidence of your claims? You don't even know what a 10Gb/s optical port looks like either, jackass. You are truly pathetic, and a total loser. The only response a retard like you knows is "stalk and jab". Would you please supply some evidence of your claims? You wouldn't know what a constellation measurement was if one bit you in the ass, much less understand it. Nuff said. Would you please supply some evidence of your claims? |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:52:31 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra
wrote: I was system engineering director for several military satellites systems, And now you are a withering old **** who comes in here mouthing petty horse**** about someone as if you know them, when you, in fact, have no clue about anything about them. What you are doing is jumping on the petty, immature asshole bandwagon. You are a special case type asswipe. I tend to judge people by their willingness and abilities to learn new things. You fail. You may know something about CATV and fiber, but it doesn't show. Instead of taking the time to educate those whom you suspect of being in error, you waste our time with insults and unsubstantiated opinions. Your command of profanity is truly impressive, but misplaced. If someone presented you with your comments, what you would think of the author? I can't imagine what personal tragedy has occurred in your life, that you find it necessary to demonstrate your competence at the expense of others. If you're truly competent, such a crutch is not necessary. If you clean up your act, there may be hope for you remaining. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:43:14 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra
wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:29:01 -0600, tom wrote: Nice to have amusing idiots back again. Actually, asshole, folks here would like it if you would leave. Speak for yourself, Nymbecile. Everyone here would love to see you leave. You have polluted this and other groups far too long. Bad enough seeing dopes like SkyBuck here, now we have to see idiots like you and krw as well. No, dumb****, you are not amusing, idiot. Did ya catch the FOAD in that, boy? |
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Joerg wrote: amdx wrote: Hi All, I'm on a boat, about 170ft from the utility post. Recently our cable company switched to the wonderful world of Digital TV. I got the new digital converter and had no picture. I took the box back and got a second box, still no picture. So now I suspect a weak signal and confirm that it is the cable length. The cable company came out and gave me a better cable than I had installed. At this point I have a picture but it is intermittent. The signal at the utility post has 3 outputs and had a four way splitter, I suggested the cable guy put in two 2 way splitters and give me the stronger (first) tap. That got my signal to work almost all the time. I'd like to get the signal to work 100% of the time. Looks like the cable guys screwed up. In your opinion. If their company cable box doesn't deliver a useful and reliable signal I call that screwed up. One pays for a service and expects to either get it delivered as promised or money back. ... If they are delivering the level called for in their franchise, they didn't screw up. It has always been up to the customer to pay for or provide extra equipment for non standard installs. Mike's install does not sound non-standard. 170ft cable drop towards premises which is fairly normal, plus the cable company's set-top box. Grow up. That is an excessive length drop. A standard drop is under 100 feet. You think you know everything, and that the world has to live by your rules. You don't, and it doesn't. ... http://www.starvision.tv/lineup_res.htm Quote "Maximum Drop Length 300 Feet" Now that's what I call good service. ... I'll bet you've never even seen a CATV franchise, or the dozen of pages of specifications agreed to by both the CATV company and the local government. The CATV company isn't a Santa Clause machine, and local governments know why there are limits to the service provided. If there were't, no one could afford to build or operate a CATV system. You've never designed a headend, or a physical plant If they build to supply higher port levels, it has to start at the headend, and requires closer spaced trunk amplifers. The system noise goes up from all of the cascaded amplifers, and the equipment runs hotter, withj a very reduced service life. When you can design an RF distribution system of more than 500 MHz bandwidth and has over 10,000 output ports, with the gain stabilized to a couple dBmv 20 miles from the headend and over a range from sub zero F to + 100 F then you can tell me I'm wrong. One headend I designed and built was only off by .1 dBmv at the test port on the first trunk amp which was a half mile from the head end. If you can do better than that, I'll listen to you and your opinions See above. Obviously others can. And yes, I have designed RF broadband power amps. Lots of them. Not just lashing up boxes but the actual transistor level circuitry including layout guidance for the nasty stuff. Fact is, if a cable company isn't competent to do a 170ft drop they should decline the job. Otherwise it is a screw-up, plain and simple. In our area they'd lose their shirts to the satellite guys because there are many houses like ours where there is no reasonable way to get from the street to the house with a 100ft limit. We have around 200ft that's still there from the early 90's and the previous owner said cable TV worked just fine for them. We are not subscribed because TV ain't that important to us. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 2/8/2012 5:41 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:00:12 -0600, wrote: I'm on a boat, about 170ft from the utility post. Ok, 200ft of coax. Presumably RG6a/u. Recently our cable company switched to the wonderful world of Digital TV. You have been assimilated. Resistance is futile. I got the new digital converter and had no picture. Something is wrong. The nominal signal from the cable drop is suppose to be 0dBm. If there's a splitter involved, they like to crank it up to about 10dBm. Your 200ft of RG6a/u will drop the signal from between 4dB at the low end, to about 6dB at the high end. Your set top box is suppose to operate with a 10dB margin. If you would kindly disclose the maker and model, it might be possible to find the specs. Typically, you'll have at least 10dB margin. Even with 200ft of coax, you should have 4 to 6dB margin. The Box is a CISCO RNG100 Only data I know how to get is; Tuner 537.00 Mhz 2dbmv TDC 75.25 Mhz 5dbmv RDC 20.00 Mhz 30.0dbmv Yes 30.0 On the road, will check in this evening. Mikek |
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On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:45:31 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra
wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:34:43 -0600, tom wrote: Interesting how little you bother to learn about the people you swear at. Interesting how ****tards like you make presumptions about people (and include insults), and then forget that you even did it, and act as if I am some kind of offender against you because I called you the ****tard you are for doing it.. You are as ****ing retarded as it gets, boy. Your mother should be jailed. Go on, Nymbecile, finish your favourite joke off. It's ages since we heard it! |
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Pomegranate ******* wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:45:31 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:34:43 -0600, tom wrote: Interesting how little you bother to learn about the people you swear at. Interesting how ****tards like you make presumptions about people (and include insults), and then forget that you even did it, and act as if I am some kind of offender against you because I called you the ****tard you are for doing it.. You are as ****ing retarded as it gets, boy. Your mother should be jailed. Go on, Nymbecile, finish your favourite joke off. It's ages since we heard it! He really needs to create a new file from which to cut and paste. Like most comedians', his jokes get stale after awhile. -- VWW, K6EVE |
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On 2/10/2012 12:18 AM, VWWall wrote:
Hellequin wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:47:31 -0800, VWWall wrote: The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:07:01 -0600, tom wrote: Very nice. We were much more constrained on the install I mentioned up the thread a ways. The fiber was fed at E1 speed, which probably didn't work it very hard. Bwuahahahahahahahahahaahha! You are too stupid to even know how to say OC-192! It wasn't from google, idiot. It is what I work with daily. More than an order of magnitude more, in fact. Over 300Gb/s Tell us more about your work. You must not be doing much, since you're always on Usenet. Do you work the graveyard janitorial shift? Here's another link for you, dork: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_band Oh, and did I say **** YOU, Wall boy? Wikipedia is also handy for things you know nothing about! What's Ku got to do with anything. I was designing and using Ku TWTAs over twenty years ago. I was system engineering director for several military satellites systems, including those for the UK and NATO. These did not use Ku because of the problem with rain attenuation. P.S. How about a reply using one of the many Linux systems you mention? He mentioned running 400 megabuck projects. With his attitude he wouldn't last 10 seconds in the interview for a position like that. And if he by chance made it through he'd be gone the first day because of performance and trouble getting along with anyone. He does sound like someone who does do janitorial work, now that you mention it, and is trying to compensate for his lack of success and low IQ with insults. Usenet. You gotta love the kooks. tom K0TAR |
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On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:56:35 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: " wrote: On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:52:10 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:21:19 -0800 (PST), Mark wrote: Just a point. I may not have made it clear. I had the tech put in two 2way splitters and connect me to the first one. Hoping to gain 3db. (or 4) and it did make a difference. Where does the other leg of that splitter go to? And is that end properly terminated? Cable installers terminating things? You must be ****ing joking. They would have to have an IQ above 25 for that. *WAY* above your pay grade. Makes you wonder what they paid him for at Time Warner, if he wasn't smart enough to install a terminator. Probably customer service. |
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tom wrote: On 2/9/2012 10:34 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote: tom wrote: On 2/9/2012 9:35 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Cool! You seem to know what you are up to. Can you put rough numbers around what you mentioned? Like what are providers legally required to deliver at the far end of the drop? We were required to deliver 0 dBmv at the end of 100 feet of RG-59 or RG-6 for two sets per the franchise. The system was designed at +10 dBmv at the tap to allow for three or four TVs at the 100 foot range. That was on a 36 channel system with RCA modulators& HST. It was done for two reasons. To have a little extra signal available when the system was built, and for conversion for a 300 MHz plant to a 450 MHz plant without respacing the trunk amplifiers. I build a headend& interface to tie two incompatible community loops together. Ours was a sub split loop, and the other CATV company used mid split. We used 2& 12 for pilots, so we fed them Channel 2 into their return, and down converted their feed to T-9 for our return. That headend had two RCA HSP and a combiner. The interface was another HSP in a large stainless steel NEMA box mounted to a power pole at the boundary of the two systems. A pair of two way splitters were used to route the signals between the systems, as well as into and out of the HSP. The other company wanted us to install a modulator and a demodulator at the boundary to give us audio& video, and another pair from our side so the interface would be baseband. Their design was over $15,000 in hardware alone. My design was under $3000 for all the hardware& labor to install. I had system designers from both sides telling me it wouldn't work, but it did the job with no problems. :) Very nice. We were much more constrained on the install I mentioned up the thread a ways. The fiber was fed at E1 speed, which probably didn't work it very hard. We had an issue at one point. This was a distributed proc/data system, one of the first. Each cabinet was a standalone PBX. And you could make 126 of them look like one. And each could survive on its own. First fiber campus we'd done. Staggered cut to the new infrastructure. Fun stuff. At one point we had to do the cutover to the other large pice of the system. Each end connected the fiber. 0 signal. TDR from A end showed 700 meters from A end, 800 meters from end B. Length from A to B is 1500 meters. The work that occurred because of that was not fun. Had to go get the guy doing fusion splicing. Joy. Midnight trip to Pittsburgh with the salesman. Actually it was fun. Not much traffic at night. Landing pattern at 160mph in between DC9s into Pittsburgh at about midnight. And they didn't like 160 at all. This was scary. Quickest turnoff onto a taxiway I've ever experienced. Of course the taxiway may not have been one. We didn't care. Still easier than having to use blasting caps to find the ends of a broken conduit under the finished concrete floor in a new RADAR site. An old fish tape & blasting cap pushed as far as it would go and BOOM!!!. Then repeat for the other end. Then they used a jackhammer to break out the concrete between the huge floor divots to install new conduit. The electrical contractor had failed to tie the conduit to the rebar & wire mesh before the pour. :) Or driving ground rods through permafrost in Alaska. We drove 60' of rod and used three tanks of Acetylene to heat the rod to get it through the ice layer outside a military radio & TV station at Ft. Greely. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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Joerg wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Joerg wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Joerg wrote: amdx wrote: Hi All, I'm on a boat, about 170ft from the utility post. Recently our cable company switched to the wonderful world of Digital TV. I got the new digital converter and had no picture. I took the box back and got a second box, still no picture. So now I suspect a weak signal and confirm that it is the cable length. The cable company came out and gave me a better cable than I had installed. At this point I have a picture but it is intermittent. The signal at the utility post has 3 outputs and had a four way splitter, I suggested the cable guy put in two 2 way splitters and give me the stronger (first) tap. That got my signal to work almost all the time. I'd like to get the signal to work 100% of the time. Looks like the cable guys screwed up. In your opinion. If their company cable box doesn't deliver a useful and reliable signal I call that screwed up. One pays for a service and expects to either get it delivered as promised or money back. ... If they are delivering the level called for in their franchise, they didn't screw up. It has always been up to the customer to pay for or provide extra equipment for non standard installs. Mike's install does not sound non-standard. 170ft cable drop towards premises which is fairly normal, plus the cable company's set-top box. Grow up. That is an excessive length drop. A standard drop is under 100 feet. You think you know everything, and that the world has to live by your rules. You don't, and it doesn't. ... http://www.starvision.tv/lineup_res.htm Quote "Maximum Drop Length 300 Feet" Now that's what I call good service. ... I'll bet you've never even seen a CATV franchise, or the dozen of pages of specifications agreed to by both the CATV company and the local government. The CATV company isn't a Santa Clause machine, and local governments know why there are limits to the service provided. If there were't, no one could afford to build or operate a CATV system. You've never designed a headend, or a physical plant If they build to supply higher port levels, it has to start at the headend, and requires closer spaced trunk amplifers. The system noise goes up from all of the cascaded amplifers, and the equipment runs hotter, withj a very reduced service life. When you can design an RF distribution system of more than 500 MHz bandwidth and has over 10,000 output ports, with the gain stabilized to a couple dBmv 20 miles from the headend and over a range from sub zero F to + 100 F then you can tell me I'm wrong. One headend I designed and built was only off by .1 dBmv at the test port on the first trunk amp which was a half mile from the head end. If you can do better than that, I'll listen to you and your opinions See above. Obviously others can. And yes, I have designed RF broadband power amps. Lots of them. Not just lashing up boxes but the actual transistor level circuitry including layout guidance for the nasty stuff. Fact is, if a cable company isn't competent to do a 170ft drop they should decline the job. Otherwise it is a screw-up, plain and simple. In our area they'd lose their shirts to the satellite guys because there are many houses like ours where there is no reasonable way to get from the street to the house with a 100ft limit. We have around 200ft that's still there from the early 90's and the previous owner said cable TV worked just fine for them. We are not subscribed because TV ain't that important to us. Yawn. You constantly harp about having to meet specs in medical, but whine like a drunken jackass when other businesses have to meet their specs. yes, they could design the sytems to 300 feet or more, but the cost to every customer on the system would go up. Would you like to pay an extra 20% to 30% just so a very few locations can get better service? Oh, that's right. You're too cheap to even have cable TV. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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On 2/10/2012 7:47 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Still easier than having to use blasting caps to find the ends of a broken conduit under the finished concrete floor in a new RADAR site. An old fish tape& blasting cap pushed as far as it would go and BOOM!!!. Then repeat for the other end. Then they used a jackhammer to break out the concrete between the huge floor divots to install new conduit. The electrical contractor had failed to tie the conduit to the rebar& wire mesh before the pour. :) Or driving ground rods through permafrost in Alaska. We drove 60' of rod and used three tanks of Acetylene to heat the rod to get it through the ice layer outside a military radio& TV station at Ft. Greely. You've got me beat. I am glad I didn't have to use blasting caps as TDR. But it does sound kind of fun if you didn't have delivery pressure on top of it. Sounds like good work. But not up the Giant Rat's standards, I'm sure. Interesting that he portrays himself as young and uses that reference. Very curious. Maybe he's old and a failure and not young and a failure as he claims. tom K0TAR |
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JIMMIE wrote: Jeff, I installed TVRO systems for several years and used a lot of F connectors. Suprisingly the ones I found that worked best were the ultra cheap ones that only took a pair of pliers to fasten These were the ones with the separate crimp rings. Used with some good quality heat shrink tubing this eliminated most of the problems you mention. I dont know why these connectors went away, my only guess is that someone wasn't making enough money on them. Those were the lowest grade, next to screw on fittings. They had the highest leakage, and shortest service life of all the connectors I ever tested. Did I mention that we bought 50,000 feet of RG-59 & RG-6 per month for cable installs? We were using the Raychem for new work & repairs in the mid '80s. They were the best we could find, both for drop, trunk & feeders. They didn't need a boot, and you would break the cable before a connector would pull off, if installed properly. We had to keep a close eye on radiation to prevent one of the midband channels from interfering with airplanes. 95% of the problems were those half assed separate ring, three cent connectors. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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tom wrote: On 2/10/2012 7:47 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Still easier than having to use blasting caps to find the ends of a broken conduit under the finished concrete floor in a new RADAR site. An old fish tape& blasting cap pushed as far as it would go and BOOM!!!. Then repeat for the other end. Then they used a jackhammer to break out the concrete between the huge floor divots to install new conduit. The electrical contractor had failed to tie the conduit to the rebar& wire mesh before the pour. :) Or driving ground rods through permafrost in Alaska. We drove 60' of rod and used three tanks of Acetylene to heat the rod to get it through the ice layer outside a military radio& TV station at Ft. Greely. You've got me beat. I am glad I didn't have to use blasting caps as TDR. But it does sound kind of fun if you didn't have delivery pressure on top of it. Sounds like good work. But not up the Giant Rat's standards, I'm sure. Interesting that he portrays himself as young and uses that reference. Very curious. Maybe he's old and a failure and not young and a failure as he claims. He was a cable grunt when Time Warner built Cube in Cincinnati, so I'd say that he's at least 50 and still a very angry failure. That RADAR site was at Ft. Rucker, and the problem was in the area reserved for the new IFF hardware in the mid '70s. Weathervision was assigned to the space while I was there, but were were in the process of moving to another building when I was told I had orders for Vietnam. I ended up in Alaska instead. Two weeks later that AFRTS station in Vietnam was overrun and the engineers killed. They shipped parts of the transmitter that survived the gunfire to the station in Alaska. :( -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:47:54 -0600, amdx
wrote: The Box is a CISCO RNG100 Only data I know how to get is; Tuner 537.00 Mhz 2dbmv TDC 75.25 Mhz 5dbmv RDC 20.00 Mhz 30.0dbmv Yes 30.0 It's the same as the Cisco Explorer 1540C with some features removed by Comcast. http://www.cincinnatibell.com/shared_content/pdf/tv/exp1540_uguide.pdf How to get into the diagnostics: Press and hold SELECT on front of unit until the MAIL light starts to flash, then press INFO. Or Press and hold PAUSE on remote until MAIL light starts to flash (around 10-15 seconds), then press PAGE-UP (-). On some remotes, PAGE (+) might need to be used instead. I'll guess(tm) that TDC is downstream power, and RDC is upstream power. (20MHz is in the frequency range used by upstream path). 30dBmV is acceptable as the upper limit is about 55dBmv. Remember, this is dB's above 1mv into 75 ohms, not dB's above 1mw into 50 ohms. dBm = dBmV - 48dB So, your 30dBmv is really -18dBm The downstream values are also in the ballpark. See: http://www.dslreports.com/faq/16085 The numbers are for cable modems, but the levels should be similar for DTV. The typical delivered values should be: -10 dBmV to +10 dBmV "Recommended". -11 dBmV to -14 dBmv / +11 dBmV to +14 dBmV "Acceptable". -15 dBmV & +15 dBmV "Maximum". 5dBmV is fairly is good enough and should result in a usable picture. See if you can excavate the SNR numbers. Maybe there's RF garbage on the systems (oscillating distribution amp, ingress, whatever, etc). -- # Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060 # 831-336-2558 # http://802.11junk.com # http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS |
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On 2/10/2012 8:07 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
He was a cable grunt when Time Warner built Cube in Cincinnati, so I'd say that he's at least 50 and still a very angry failure. Sounds correct. He's got problems alright. That RADAR site was at Ft. Rucker, and the problem was in the area reserved for the new IFF hardware in the mid '70s. Weathervision was assigned to the space while I was there, but were were in the process of moving to another building when I was told I had orders for Vietnam. I ended up in Alaska instead. Two weeks later that AFRTS station in Vietnam was overrun and the engineers killed. They shipped parts of the transmitter that survived the gunfire to the station in Alaska. :( Sorry to hear that. Had friends that survived intact but were still damaged goods from that war. tom K0TAR |
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"VWWall" wrote in message m... Pomegranate ******* wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:45:31 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:34:43 -0600, tom wrote: Interesting how little you bother to learn about the people you swear at. Interesting how ****tards like you make presumptions about people (and include insults), and then forget that you even did it, and act as if I am some kind of offender against you because I called you the ****tard you are for doing it.. You are as ****ing retarded as it gets, boy. Your mother should be jailed. Go on, Nymbecile, finish your favourite joke off. It's ages since we heard it! He really needs to create a new file from which to cut and paste. Like most comedians', his jokes get stale after awhile. -- VWW, K6EVE - But you must admit that this normally quiet newsgroup finally has some activity. Who knows, this could take on the characteristics of the GFW. --Wayne W5GIE "GFW=Great Fractal Wars" |
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On 2/10/2012 8:32 PM, Wayne wrote:
He really needs to create a new file from which to cut and paste. Like most comedians', his jokes get stale after awhile. -- VWW, K6EVE - But you must admit that this normally quiet newsgroup finally has some activity. Who knows, this could take on the characteristics of the GFW. --Wayne W5GIE "GFW=Great Fractal Wars" Unfortunately the traffic has nothing to do with antennas. Things dried up here around 6 months ago. I suspect the people with brains and stories, and some of us remember who they are, are no longer with us or finally bailed due to the noise. Now all there seems to be is some less verbose hangers on plus script kiddie morons and worse. tom K0TAR |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:47:52 +0000, Pomegranate *******
wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:27:00 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:02:35 +0000, Pomegranate ******* wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 06:44:45 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:12:15 +0000, Pomegranate ******* wrote: Would you please supply some evidence of your claims? You don't even know what a 10Gb/s optical port looks like either, jackass. You are truly pathetic, and a total loser. The only response a retard like you knows is "stalk and jab". Would you please supply some evidence of your claims? You wouldn't know what a constellation measurement was if one bit you in the ass, much less understand it. Nuff said. Would you please supply some evidence of your claims? You failed to respond with a definition of the term. That is proof that you are an uneducable twit. |
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On 2/10/2012 6:28 PM, tom wrote:
P.S. How about a reply using one of the many Linux systems you mention? I missed that. Probably because I ignore the worst of the BS. Where did he mention being a Linux wanabee (that all he could be given what I've heard from him; at best a script kiddie)? tom K0TAR |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:48:06 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:52:31 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: I was system engineering director for several military satellites systems, And now you are a withering old **** who comes in here mouthing petty horse**** about someone as if you know them, when you, in fact, have no clue about anything about them. What you are doing is jumping on the petty, immature asshole bandwagon. You are a special case type asswipe. I tend to judge people by their willingness and abilities to learn new things. List the "new things" you or any other ****tard here has ever tried to instruct me on. Oh... THAT'S RIGHT... YOU CANNOT. You and your petty jack-offs are total failures. You fail. I am fine. You are an idiot who think he can make a valid assessment based on some other dumb****tard's stupid remarks, taking them as if they are factual. You are even more pathetic than the retarded ******* who spouted the lies to begin with. You may know something about CATV and fiber, I know a lot about a lot of things. For you to assess the level of my skills or knowledge based on the stupid horse**** some lame ****tard spewed in this thread, is more of a tell about your inability than it is about my abilities. but it doesn't show. You're an idiot. Half the ****tards in here don't even know what Digicipher II is, and you likely don't have much of a grasp of it either, ****head. Instead of taking the time to educate those whom you suspect of being in error, WTF are you attempting to do here, asswipe? you waste our time with insults and unsubstantiated opinions. You are an idiot. The insults go to assholes who have been haranguing me for years. Every now and then, some completely uniformed retard like you comes in and makes a stupid assessment based on a single thread. You are so ****ing stupid, you probably believe the retarded ****s claiming I am a janitor. IF I were a janitor, 98% of you ****tards would be in a landfill by now. Your command of profanity is truly impressive, You are a goddamned idiot to make any assessment about it at all, dumb****. but misplaced. That is an opinion. Just like mine that you are about as stupid as it gets, because you are not informed enough to know what has been taking place for years here. **** you and your horse blinders, dumb****. If someone presented you with your comments, what you would think of the author? When I was presented with insults years ago, I returned the favor. The immature retards have yet to stop being the total ****ing retards that they are, so I will continue pointing out their utter stupidity to them, and dumb****s like you. You are just too ****ing stupid to see it for what it is. The Pommy Retard has ALWAYS stalked my posts, and made stupid remarks, and you are jumping on me for calling him the total piece of **** that he is? You are dumber than dog****, boy! I can't imagine what personal tragedy has occurred in your life, Idiots like you. That's what happened. that you find it necessary to demonstrate your competence You have no clue as to my competence in any field or endeavor, you stupid ****. The fact that you use a Usenet post to form your pathetic assessment says more about your immature stupidity than anything about me. When will you realize that your ****ing guesses about someone have no basis in reality? at the expense of others. I would charge you your entire life if I could. Many of you should be cleared from the gene pool. If you're truly competent, Make up your mind, ****HEAD. You are either on the make **** up about me bandwagon or you are not. Either way, you have already stepped over the line. such a crutch is not necessary. Such opinions about what my motives are, are truly more stupid than the pother idiots and their petty bull**** jabs. If you clean up your act, I do not have to measure up to your pathetic, unqualified, unprofessional, unsolicited retarded assessments, IDIOT! there may be hope for you remaining. If you were here, there might be hope for you to eat without a straw after I turned your ****ing jaw sideways. You are pathetic. Go judge your mother, ****head. She is a criminal bitch for not flushing you the moment the retarded slut shat your retarded ass. |
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On 2/10/2012 9:13 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:48:06 -0800, Jeff wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:52:31 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: I was system engineering director for several military satellites systems, And now you are a withering old **** who comes in here mouthing petty horse**** about someone as if you know them, when you, in fact, have no clue about anything about them. What you are doing is jumping on the petty, immature asshole bandwagon. You are a special case type asswipe. I tend to judge people by their willingness and abilities to learn new things. List the "new things" you or any other ****tard here has ever tried to instruct me on. Oh... THAT'S RIGHT... YOU CANNOT. You and your petty jack-offs are total failures. You fail. I am fine. You are an idiot who think he can make a valid assessment based on some other dumb****tard's stupid remarks, taking them as if they are factual. You are even more pathetic than the retarded ******* who spouted the lies to begin with. You may know something about CATV and fiber, I know a lot about a lot of things. For you to assess the level of my skills or knowledge based on the stupid horse**** some lame ****tard spewed in this thread, is more of a tell about your inability than it is about my abilities. but it doesn't show. You're an idiot. Half the ****tards in here don't even know what Digicipher II is, and you likely don't have much of a grasp of it either, ****head. Instead of taking the time to educate those whom you suspect of being in error, WTF are you attempting to do here, asswipe? you waste our time with insults and unsubstantiated opinions. You are an idiot. The insults go to assholes who have been haranguing me for years. Every now and then, some completely uniformed retard like you comes in and makes a stupid assessment based on a single thread. You are so ****ing stupid, you probably believe the retarded ****s claiming I am a janitor. IF I were a janitor, 98% of you ****tards would be in a landfill by now. Your command of profanity is truly impressive, You are a goddamned idiot to make any assessment about it at all, dumb****. but misplaced. That is an opinion. Just like mine that you are about as stupid as it gets, because you are not informed enough to know what has been taking place for years here. **** you and your horse blinders, dumb****. If someone presented you with your comments, what you would think of the author? When I was presented with insults years ago, I returned the favor. The immature retards have yet to stop being the total ****ing retards that they are, so I will continue pointing out their utter stupidity to them, and dumb****s like you. You are just too ****ing stupid to see it for what it is. The Pommy Retard has ALWAYS stalked my posts, and made stupid remarks, and you are jumping on me for calling him the total piece of **** that he is? You are dumber than dog****, boy! I can't imagine what personal tragedy has occurred in your life, Idiots like you. That's what happened. that you find it necessary to demonstrate your competence You have no clue as to my competence in any field or endeavor, you stupid ****. The fact that you use a Usenet post to form your pathetic assessment says more about your immature stupidity than anything about me. When will you realize that your ****ing guesses about someone have no basis in reality? at the expense of others. I would charge you your entire life if I could. Many of you should be cleared from the gene pool. If you're truly competent, Make up your mind, ****HEAD. You are either on the make **** up about me bandwagon or you are not. Either way, you have already stepped over the line. such a crutch is not necessary. Such opinions about what my motives are, are truly more stupid than the pother idiots and their petty bull**** jabs. If you clean up your act, I do not have to measure up to your pathetic, unqualified, unprofessional, unsolicited retarded assessments, IDIOT! there may be hope for you remaining. If you were here, there might be hope for you to eat without a straw after I turned your ****ing jaw sideways. You are pathetic. Go judge your mother, ****head. She is a criminal bitch for not flushing you the moment the retarded slut shat your retarded ass. I especially love how he uses the word "professional". Surrounded on both sides by profanity, He works for no one. Oh how he wishes. :) tom K0TAR |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:18:55 -0800, VWWall wrote:
He really needs to create a new file from which to cut and paste. Like most comedians', his jokes get stale after awhile. It wasn't a joke, ****head. Your mother should be put in prison! And I have NEVER cut-and-pasted anything in my life in Usenet, you ****ing retard. I sit here and type. You got that, boy? You retarded ****! |
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On 2/10/2012 9:13 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:48:06 -0800, Jeff wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:52:31 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: I was system engineering director for several military satellites systems, And now you are a withering old **** who comes in here mouthing petty horse**** about someone as if you know them, when you, in fact, have no clue about anything about them. What you are doing is jumping on the petty, immature asshole bandwagon. You are a special case type asswipe. I tend to judge people by their willingness and abilities to learn new things. List the "new things" you or any other ****tard here has ever tried to instruct me on. Oh... THAT'S RIGHT... YOU CANNOT. You and your petty jack-offs are total failures. You fail. I am fine. You are an idiot who think he can make a valid assessment based on some other dumb****tard's stupid remarks, taking them as if they are factual. You are even more pathetic than the retarded ******* who spouted the lies to begin with. You may know something about CATV and fiber, I know a lot about a lot of things. For you to assess the level of my skills or knowledge based on the stupid horse**** some lame ****tard spewed in this thread, is more of a tell about your inability than it is about my abilities. but it doesn't show. You're an idiot. Half the ****tards in here don't even know what Digicipher II is, and you likely don't have much of a grasp of it either, ****head. Instead of taking the time to educate those whom you suspect of being in error, WTF are you attempting to do here, asswipe? you waste our time with insults and unsubstantiated opinions. You are an idiot. The insults go to assholes who have been haranguing me for years. Every now and then, some completely uniformed retard like you comes in and makes a stupid assessment based on a single thread. You are so ****ing stupid, you probably believe the retarded ****s claiming I am a janitor. IF I were a janitor, 98% of you ****tards would be in a landfill by now. Your command of profanity is truly impressive, You are a goddamned idiot to make any assessment about it at all, dumb****. but misplaced. That is an opinion. Just like mine that you are about as stupid as it gets, because you are not informed enough to know what has been taking place for years here. **** you and your horse blinders, dumb****. If someone presented you with your comments, what you would think of the author? When I was presented with insults years ago, I returned the favor. The immature retards have yet to stop being the total ****ing retards that they are, so I will continue pointing out their utter stupidity to them, and dumb****s like you. You are just too ****ing stupid to see it for what it is. The Pommy Retard has ALWAYS stalked my posts, and made stupid remarks, and you are jumping on me for calling him the total piece of **** that he is? You are dumber than dog****, boy! I can't imagine what personal tragedy has occurred in your life, Idiots like you. That's what happened. that you find it necessary to demonstrate your competence You have no clue as to my competence in any field or endeavor, you stupid ****. The fact that you use a Usenet post to form your pathetic assessment says more about your immature stupidity than anything about me. When will you realize that your ****ing guesses about someone have no basis in reality? at the expense of others. I would charge you your entire life if I could. Many of you should be cleared from the gene pool. If you're truly competent, Make up your mind, ****HEAD. You are either on the make **** up about me bandwagon or you are not. Either way, you have already stepped over the line. such a crutch is not necessary. Such opinions about what my motives are, are truly more stupid than the pother idiots and their petty bull**** jabs. If you clean up your act, I do not have to measure up to your pathetic, unqualified, unprofessional, unsolicited retarded assessments, IDIOT! there may be hope for you remaining. If you were here, there might be hope for you to eat without a straw after I turned your ****ing jaw sideways. You are pathetic. Go judge your mother, ****head. She is a criminal bitch for not flushing you the moment the retarded slut shat your retarded ass. If you are so talented that your employers don't care what you say then tell us who you work for. You are so much more talented than all of us here and you are so valuable to your current employer that there should be no problem admitting who you are and who you work for. They probably don't care a bit that you swear (very poorly) at everyone that responds to you. So fess up mister big cojones, who do you work for? My bet is no one that counts. And you have no cojones. None at all. Tom K0TAR |
tom "k0TAR" shows his immaturity level yet again. What a sad excuse for a man
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:28:10 -0600, tom wrote:
On 2/10/2012 12:18 AM, VWWall wrote: Hellequin wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:47:31 -0800, VWWall wrote: The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:07:01 -0600, tom wrote: Very nice. We were much more constrained on the install I mentioned up the thread a ways. The fiber was fed at E1 speed, which probably didn't work it very hard. Bwuahahahahahahahahahaahha! You are too stupid to even know how to say OC-192! It wasn't from google, idiot. It is what I work with daily. More than an order of magnitude more, in fact. Over 300Gb/s Tell us more about your work. You must not be doing much, since you're always on Usenet. Do you work the graveyard janitorial shift? Here's another link for you, dork: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_band Oh, and did I say **** YOU, Wall boy? Wikipedia is also handy for things you know nothing about! What's Ku got to do with anything. I was designing and using Ku TWTAs over twenty years ago. I was system engineering director for several military satellites systems, including those for the UK and NATO. These did not use Ku because of the problem with rain attenuation. P.S. How about a reply using one of the many Linux systems you mention? He mentioned running 400 megabuck projects. With his attitude he wouldn't last 10 seconds in the interview for a position like that. After 25 gateways in 25 major US cities, I'd say that you are decidedly too stupid to make a valid assessment about anyone or anything. And if he by chance made it through he'd be gone the first day because of performance and trouble getting along with anyone. Folks come to me for answers. Folks in here insult me. Guess what you retarded ****s get back in your face. Guess what no person I work with gets. Now, in your infinite lack of wisdom, guess why. He does sound like someone who does do janitorial work, More pathetic jabbing horse**** from a jerk who actually would like folks to think he has been making "helpful' comments in a hope to 'aid' someone. Your bull**** here shows you for the total ****ing retarded jerk, who jumped onto the retarded jerk bandwagon with the rest of the retarded jerks. Yer doin real good, boy... NOT! now that you mention it, and is trying to compensate for his lack of success and low IQ with insults. I did more in the last week to make the world a better place than you will in your entire pathetic life, boy. Usenet. You gotta love the kooks. Go back to the kook group, you retarded ****. You will never be loved, because you are too retarded to even know what love is. tom K0TAR A complete and utter retard. |
tom "k0TAR" shows his immaturity level yet again. What a sadexcuse for a man
On 2/10/2012 9:34 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
Cut lots of stuff More pathetic jabbing horse**** from a jerk who actually would like folks to think he has been making "helpful' comments in a hope to 'aid' someone. Your bull**** here shows you for the total ****ing retarded jerk, who jumped onto the retarded jerk bandwagon with the rest of the retarded jerks. Yer doin real good, boy... NOT! now that you mention it, and is trying to compensate for his lack of success and low IQ with insults. I did more in the last week to make the world a better place than you will in your entire pathetic life, boy. Usenet. You gotta love the kooks. Go back to the kook group, you retarded ****. You will never be loved, because you are too retarded to even know what love is. tom K0TAR A complete and utter retard. He really likes the word "retard". Wonder why? tom K0TAR |
tom "k0TAR" shows his immaturity level yet again. What a sadexcuse for a man
On 2/10/2012 9:34 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
Go back to the kook group, you retarded ****. You will never be loved, because you are too retarded to even know what love is. tom K0TAR A complete and utter retard. Why do you have a problem with mentally challenged people? I am serious. tom K0TAR |
Increasing Cable TV signal strength
On 2/10/12 8:50 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Yawn. You constantly harp about having to meet specs in medical, but whine like a drunken jackass when other businesses have to meet their specs. yes, they could design the sytems to 300 feet or more, but the cost to every customer on the system would go up. Would you like to pay an extra 20% to 30% just so a very few locations can get better service? Oh, that's right. You're too cheap to even have cable TV. Respectfully, Michael even though we wouldn't *want* to make a 170 foot drop. it isn't unheard of. And the amplifiers are very capable of handling it. Ind it is very location specific. Getting a decent signal at a marginal location doesn't have any effect on the rest of the system. There are attenuators and there are equalized attenuators that will give a flat signal at the end of a 170 foot drop. RG6 cable has a loss of around 5 db per 100 feet at 500 MHz. Let's give you 10 db at 170 feet, worst case. When I worked in the industry, I plugged (or designed in) in a number of equalized attenuators. It only affected a single drop, or some times a few. You could have a specific amp running about +10db, and with the equalized attenuator, hit the house around 0, flat. While some might think that it is bad design, ask the system owners whether they would want to put in another pole, perhaps with a distribution amp, or simply use a 20 dollar attenuator. The world is not perfect, and my job in the catv world included just about every part, from strand mapping to system layout to in the field work. We needed a balance between perfect and affordable. But the only time there might be an issue was if the system was over-amped, then there could be problems with proof of performance certification. We never had an issue with that. Bottom line is, a 170 foot drop is perfectly capable of having a nice flat swept signal - and it should, unless the system design itself was bad. Done properly, any issues will be mechanical rather than electrical. But nowadays they have messengered cable, so it's even less likely. - 73 de Mike N3LI - |
Increasing Cable TV signal strength
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:50:59 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Oh, that's right. You're too cheap to even have cable TV. And yet the asshole touts himself as knowledgeable in the field. He is a ****ing joke, at best. |
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