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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:57:41 -0600, tom wrote:
Sounds like good work. But not up the Giant Rat's standards, I'm sure. Presumptuous ****tards should be removed from the human gene pool. You and your entire bloodline, ****head. I'm sure. |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:07:24 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: He was a cable grunt when Time Warner built Cube in Cincinnati, You're a goddamned idiot, and you know nothing of my work history, much less what position I held. so I'd say that he's at least 50 and still a very angry failure. I'd say that since your first stupid remark was false and incorrect, your second only shows the world the depths of stupidity a presumptuous, retarded ******* like you can be. |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:21:26 -0600, tom wrote:
On 2/10/2012 8:07 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote: He was a cable grunt when Time Warner built Cube in Cincinnati, so I'd say that he's at least 50 and still a very angry failure. Sounds correct. A psychologist would have a field day with retarded ****s like you two. He's got problems alright. PKB, you stupid ****. snipped retarded bull****. Sorry to hear that. You are an asswipe. You are sorry, but not the way you think. Had friends that survived intact but were still damaged goods from that war. You are ****ing damaged goods, and your mother should be imprisoned for foisting you upon the world, ****head. |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:13:12 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra
wrote: WTF are you attempting to do here, asswipe? Inspire you to clean up your act. However, judging by your response, you're not worth the time and effort. As you were... -- # Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060 # 831-336-2558 # http://802.11junk.com # http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:52:11 -0600, tom wrote:
On 2/10/2012 8:32 PM, Wayne wrote: He really needs to create a new file from which to cut and paste. Like most comedians', his jokes get stale after awhile. -- VWW, K6EVE - But you must admit that this normally quiet newsgroup finally has some activity. Who knows, this could take on the characteristics of the GFW. --Wayne W5GIE "GFW=Great Fractal Wars" Unfortunately the traffic has nothing to do with antennas. Things dried up here around 6 months ago. I suspect the people with brains and stories, and some of us remember who they are, are no longer with us or finally bailed due to the noise. I was playing with Moonrakers way back in the early seventies. I was reading the CRC handbook at 11 yo. I was working with fractals before you even knew what they were. I was playing with Moonrakers way back in the early seventies at 15 yo. Now, IF you know what that simple piece of gear is, you might start to get a clue. As it stands, you are worse than a modern day stigmatic pig from LA. You know NOTHING about me, you stupid ****. WAKE THE **** UP, BOY! |
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" wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:56:35 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: " wrote: On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:52:10 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:21:19 -0800 (PST), Mark wrote: Just a point. I may not have made it clear. I had the tech put in two 2way splitters and connect me to the first one. Hoping to gain 3db. (or 4) and it did make a difference. Where does the other leg of that splitter go to? And is that end properly terminated? Cable installers terminating things? You must be ****ing joking. They would have to have an IQ above 25 for that. *WAY* above your pay grade. Makes you wonder what they paid him for at Time Warner, if he wasn't smart enough to install a terminator. Probably customer service. Probably unloading the defective converters from the service trucks. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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tom wrote: On 2/9/2012 10:27 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: You wouldn't know what a constellation measurement was if one bit you in the ass, much less understand it. Nuff said. Holy crap! He's made it to the 1970s! Don't get him started on feedforward, or dual trunk systems. ;-) -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:23:29 -0600, tom wrote:
He works for no one. I work for my government, and sadly, to keep assholes like you in freedom. Go find a tall bridge and jump off, boy! Take your ****ing whore mother with you. |
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tom wrote: On 2/10/2012 9:34 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: Cut lots of stuff More pathetic jabbing horse**** from a jerk who actually would like folks to think he has been making "helpful' comments in a hope to 'aid' someone. Your bull**** here shows you for the total ****ing retarded jerk, who jumped onto the retarded jerk bandwagon with the rest of the retarded jerks. Yer doin real good, boy... NOT! now that you mention it, and is trying to compensate for his lack of success and low IQ with insults. I did more in the last week to make the world a better place than you will in your entire pathetic life, boy. Usenet. You gotta love the kooks. Go back to the kook group, you retarded ****. You will never be loved, because you are too retarded to even know what love is. tom K0TAR A complete and utter retard. He really likes the word "retard". Wonder why? It's the only word he ever heard at home. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:31:58 -0600, tom wrote:
If you are so talented that your employers don't care what you say then tell us who you work for. **** you, asswipe. You list your ****ing stats, boy! Usenet is anon for a ****ing reason. To keep assholes like you away from me AND my employers, AND to keep assholes like me from TERMINATING retarded ****s like you as the opportunity presents itself. Back in the old west, if a man brushed up against a man standing on the street with his horse, the man on the street pulled out a gun and dropped the ****er, and then his horse too! THAT is the kind of response retarded ****s like you should get. |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:31:58 -0600, tom wrote:
You are so much more talented than all of us here No such claim has ever been made. and you are so valuable to your current employer That I am. And I am going to stay that way too, idiot. that there should be no problem admitting who you are and who you work for. I will. In person only, and you have to give your info first. Feeling paranoid yet? That's right, asshole. I would use the info to make the meeting less savoury than you expect. You would end up in the sewer, where you belong, and where your mind already is. Are you seeing the reason why Usenet is anon yet, dumb****? |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:40:07 -0600, tom wrote:
He really likes the word "retard". Wonder why? tom K0TAR Because 99.99999% of presumptuous assholes are exactly that. Guess what category of asshole you fall into, retard. |
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On 2/10/2012 10:18 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:07:24 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: He was a cable grunt when Time Warner built Cube in Cincinnati, You're a goddamned idiot, and you know nothing of my work history, much less what position I held. so I'd say that he's at least 50 and still a very angry failure. Hit. He's very sensitive in this area. On the other hand, probably nothing. Forget it. tom K0TAR |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:38:44 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: I think the official minimum pull test is 55 lbs, but I'm too lazy to Google for it now. 40 lbs outdoors, 30 lbs indoors. http://www.scte.org/documents/pdf/standards/SCTE_124_2011.pdf 6.2.2 Axial Pull Force: The male “F” pin type connector, when attached to cables manufactured to SCTE approved standards, shall withstand a minimum axial pull force of 40 lbs for outdoor and 30 lbs for indoor applications when tested per ANSI/SCTE 99 2009, Test Method For Axial Pull Connector/Drop Cable. I doubt that the crimp connectors could pass the test. -- # Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060 # 831-336-2558 # http://802.11junk.com # http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:23:49 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:13:12 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: WTF are you attempting to do here, asswipe? Inspire you to clean up your act. However, judging by your response, you're not worth the time and effort. As you were... You did not put forth any effort, you lying piece of ****. You had no intention of putting forth any effort either, you lying piece of ****. You are no different than the other asswipes, or you would have jumped on them when their insults flew years ago. But YOU are OBLIVIOUS, boy. You are just like all the "intelligent" cops out there. Where are the ones complaining about the fact that Tasers are NOT non-lethal? Oh... that's right... the retarded ****s would NEVER declare that their ****ed in the head brethren could possibly be doing anything wrong! Tasers should be banned completely. Assholes like you need to get a clue, because the behavior of the idiots I deride are who you should be going after, boy. So, essentially, you are nothing more than just another one of them. And THAT is RETARDED. The term is NOT just for congenital defects, idiot. Dumb****s like you, who would be otherwise intelligent, become SELF retarded when you take steps back from your intelligence. That is what you are doing here. That is what they did. That is why they are retarded. That is why YOU are retarded. The term has NEBER been about sad, dumb ****ers who got a raw deal at birth. It has ALWAYS been about how you otherwise claim to be intelligent asswipes act like ****ing ten year olds here. THAT IS RETARDED! You dig, boy? |
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On 2/10/2012 10:30 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
I was playing with Moonrakers way back in the early seventies. Junk. I was reading the CRC handbook at 11 yo. And your point is? I was working with fractals before you even knew what they were. I doubt it. I was playing with Moonrakers way back in the early seventies at 15 yo. You are repeating yourself, sort of. Probably forgot what you typed 3 ago. Perfectly understandable. Now, IF you know what that simple piece of gear is, you might start to get a clue. As it stands, you are worse than a modern day stigmatic pig from LA. You know NOTHING about me, you stupid ****. WAKE THE **** UP, BOY! You really are the most amusing to show up recently. Please DO NOT go away! tom K0TAR |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:34:45 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Probably unloading the defective converters from the service trucks. The ones you designed? 99.999% drop out rate. Bwuahahahahahahah! |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:51:35 -0600, tom wrote:
On 2/10/2012 10:18 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:07:24 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: He was a cable grunt when Time Warner built Cube in Cincinnati, You're a goddamned idiot, and you know nothing of my work history, much less what position I held. so I'd say that he's at least 50 and still a very angry failure. Hit. You're a goddamned retard. He's very sensitive in this area. I don't give a fat flying **** what you retarded stupid ****s think or say. You got that, boy? You ****ing retard! On the other hand, probably nothing. That's because withered nuts don'tproduce, boy. But do please exit here and go back to trying with your left hand. Give it some permanence. Try until you succeed. That way, we'll be sure to never see your retarded crap in here again. Forget it. Please, **** off and die, and 'forget' this group. tom K0TAR Yes, YOU, ****head! |
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On 2/10/2012 10:42 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:31:58 -0600, wrote: If you are so talented that your employers don't care what you say then tell us who you work for. **** you, asswipe. You list your ****ing stats, boy! Usenet is anon for a ****ing reason. To keep assholes like you away from me AND my employers, AND to keep assholes like me from TERMINATING retarded ****s like you as the opportunity presents itself. Back in the old west, if a man brushed up against a man standing on the street with his horse, the man on the street pulled out a gun and dropped the ****er, and then his horse too! THAT is the kind of response retarded ****s like you should get. Man oh man you are funny!!!! tom K0TAR |
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On 2/10/2012 10:45 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:31:58 -0600, wrote: You are so much more talented than all of us here No such claim has ever been made. and you are so valuable to your current employer That I am. And I am going to stay that way too, idiot. that there should be no problem admitting who you are and who you work for. I will. In person only, and you have to give your info first. Feeling paranoid yet? That's right, asshole. I would use the info to make the meeting less savoury than you expect. You would end up in the sewer, where you belong, and where your mind already is. Are you seeing the reason why Usenet is anon yet, dumb****? Fine. Lets do it. tom K0TAR |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:56:10 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra
wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:23:49 -0800, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:13:12 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: WTF are you attempting to do here, asswipe? Inspire you to clean up your act. However, judging by your response, you're not worth the time and effort. As you were... You did not put forth any effort, you lying piece of ****. Correct. I supplied the minimum necessary for you to notice that there is a problem. Think of it as a mirror in which you see the results of whatever it is you're trying to accomplish. You are trying to accomplish something, or you would not expend so much time an effort on something so trivial as insulting everyone within range. From your response, it wasn't very difficult to determine that you're not responsive to any feedback, criticism, or suggestions. I know when to give up, which is precisely what I've done. Incidentally, the mirror isn't such a bad idea. Look in the mirror and ask yourself if what you see is what you had once intended to become. You had no intention of putting forth any effort either, you lying piece of ****. Not true. Had you responded with even the slightest interest, I would have burned considerable time and effort explaining my observations, offering recommendations, and generally trying to be helpful. (Punch my name into Google Groups search and see for yourself.) You can start the cleanup exercise by losing the profanity. If you claim to be a knowledgeable professional, the first step is to act like one. You are just like all the "intelligent" cops out there. (...) You probably have no idea how much you reveal about yourself with such comments. Your search for self-esteem is the surest sign of its lack. -- # Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060 # 831-336-2558 # http://802.11junk.com # http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:57:48 -0600, tom wrote:
I was playing with Moonrakers way back in the early seventies. Junk I never said it wasn't. I will say that you match its sad quality, however. You ain't all that, tom. You jumping into your assessment bull**** proves that. You do not know me, and you do not know ANYTHING about me, so stop making presumptuous remarks, you ****ing *******! You wouldn't have a nose or a jaw left in person! These ****ers I have been calling retarded in here wouldn't either, if on the first day I ever called them a retard, the response was in the form of a stroke across the face for what they said that caused me to call them a retard to begin with. But the details go over your head pretty quickly, eh? You jumping on their bandwagon is a serious character flaw, and I spot it immediately, idiot. And that is why you get the moniker even before you think you did anything wrong. Just getting in their ****ed in the head gossip sessions makes you a convict, asswipe. And you are such a dumb**** that you say I need to seek help? HA! |
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On 2/10/2012 10:42 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:31:58 -0600, wrote: If you are so talented that your employers don't care what you say then tell us who you work for. **** you, asswipe. You list your ****ing stats, boy! Usenet is anon for a ****ing reason. To keep assholes like you away from me AND my employers, AND to keep assholes like me from TERMINATING retarded ****s like you as the opportunity presents itself. Back in the old west, if a man brushed up against a man standing on the street with his horse, the man on the street pulled out a gun and dropped the ****er, and then his horse too! THAT is the kind of response retarded ****s like you should get. I bet your employers just love you. I mean, you are so eloquent. It would be interesting if someone could forward these harmless posts to your employers. Ahh, it wouldn't matter though, they love you. tom K0TAR |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:57:48 -0600, tom wrote:
I was playing with Moonrakers way back in the early seventies at 15 yo. You are repeating yourself, sort of. Probably forgot what you typed 3 ago. Perfectly understandable. No, idiot. I moved the line, and simply failed to delete the original. But I wouldn't expect an immature little bitch like you to have any vision of reality, even when it is right there in your face. Just remember,dip****. *You* are slow scan. *I* am at a rate in which the very first packet carries more data than the entire set that encompasses what you have passed in your entire life. Hell, my ride to work with GPS and cell, and my droid playing a movie is a bigger datagram than anything you ever ****ing did. And THEN, the guys I work for and strive to give more, better, and faster data to EACH get a bigger datagram than an old **** like you was ever worth. Remember what I said about your mother? Now, go back and read your first response to me, and discover why it is that YOU are the uncivil ****ing ******* in this thread. You don't get to live in both worlds at your ****ing leisure, and at my expense boy. You mouthed off, and you got it back in your face. YOU are still the primary offender, and YOU will never change that fact. |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:28:17 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra
wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:57:48 -0600, tom wrote: I was playing with Moonrakers way back in the early seventies at 15 yo. You are repeating yourself, sort of. Probably forgot what you typed 3 ago. Perfectly understandable. No, idiot. I moved the line, and simply failed to delete the original. But I wouldn't expect an immature little bitch like you to have any vision of reality, even when it is right there in your face. Just remember,dip****. *You* are slow scan. *I* am at a rate in which the very first packet carries more data than the entire set that encompasses what you have passed in your entire life. Hell, my ride to work with GPS and cell, and my droid playing a movie is a bigger datagram than anything you ever ****ing did. And THEN, the guys I work for and strive to give more, better, and faster data to EACH get a bigger datagram than an old **** like you was ever worth. Remember what I said about your mother? Now, go back and read your first response to me, and discover why it is that YOU are the uncivil ****ing ******* in this thread. You don't get to live in both worlds at your ****ing leisure, and at my expense boy. You mouthed off, and you got it back in your face. YOU are still the primary offender, and YOU will never change that fact. Why are you so angry? You've been cursing and ranting here all day, flailing at everyone. This isn't healthy. All that anger will wreck your immune system and make you old fast. You'll stroke out eventually, and not have much fun meanwhile. Really. -- John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:15:36 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: Correct. I supplied the minimum necessary for you to notice that there is a problem. You are too goddamned blind to see WHERE the problem is located. I have been telling you all there is a problem for years! Were I to say "Are you all ready to be nice now?" there are always six or eight who still want to take jabs, and then it ensues again. You getting it yet? If you all want to be nice, we can do that, but you can bet someone will start again, and THEN I will reciprocate. I play by those rules of engagement. That is why YOU got schmacked. Because you are on the stupid, snide remark bandwagon too. Character compromises shall not pass. So, get started on *them* as well.. and yourself, Jeffy Fixit. Every time I try to be like anyone else, an army of idiots start with their sub-Jr High mentality horse****. They will get their plates of **** back in their faces. Don't you go thinking you can start feeding me one too, boy. And then some dope thinks that because I cuss, I am wrong from the start. That is pretty stupid too. Call them "colorful metaphors". I have the entire archive. Nearly two decades. The names these idiots use to refer to me with do not match any I have ever used. They can have that back in their faces. Cussing doesn't mean a ****ing thing. You getting it yet? I can chronicle every time each asshole started it, from over a decade ago in some cases. |
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"tom" wrote in message . net... On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:52:31 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: nuclear snippage tom K0TAR I plonked the guy days ago. It would be so-o-o-o great if people quoted him back little or none. I have no objection to appropriate profanity (and have been known to howl the unprintable on occasion, myself.) But when overused to no good end, ****/****ing,****er/****ed-up/****wad get tedious. "Sal" |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... snip Still easier than having to use blasting caps to find the ends of a broken conduit under the finished concrete floor in a new RADAR site. An old fish tape & blasting cap pushed as far as it would go and BOOM!!!. Then repeat for the other end. Then they used a jackhammer to break out the concrete between the huge floor divots to install new conduit. The electrical contractor had failed to tie the conduit to the rebar & wire mesh before the pour. :) Good story. It brought to mind a promotional video I saw for a company that had a process called explosive bonding (of dissimilar metals). They must have been too cheap to rent lights, so they did the demo outside on an old wooden table. It was two guys in overalls and, I swear, they could have retitled it "Gomer and Bubba Find Some Dynamite" and nobody would have noticed. "Sal" |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:15:36 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: You probably have no idea how much you reveal about yourself with such comments. Wait until they pull your son over, and then there are five cruisers, complete with their ss dogs, doing their piggery shake down. You are the one who has no idea. Over 50 folks a year die in the US alone. The numbers around the world are greater still. They get trained to NOT aim at the chest area, but guess where the dumb****s all aim. Did you see the PIT 'stop' down in Fla earlier last year where they had like 4 dudes in the car, and the driver got like 3 tasers, and each occupant got a couple each, and they ran out of tasers before they could taze the fourth guy? Did you see that video? Did you see the whole line of cars that were in the left turn lane that the PITed car slammed into the last one as it rotated and stopped? The band of pigs that endangered the public that day arrested that guy like the jack jawed jackasses they are too. Do you know why? |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:41:38 -0800, John Larkin
wrote: Why are you so angry? You've been cursing and ranting here all day, flailing at everyone. This isn't healthy. All that anger will wreck your immune system and make you old fast. You'll stroke out eventually, and not have much fun meanwhile. Really. Why do you not refrain from attacking me? Oh that's right... that is your true goal. FOAD, John Larkin. |
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:08:40 -0800, "Sal" wrote:
"tom" wrote in message .net... On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:52:31 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote: nuclear snippage tom K0TAR I plonked the guy days ago. It would be so-o-o-o great if people quoted him back little or none. I have no objection to appropriate profanity (and have been known to howl the unprintable on occasion, myself.) But when overused to no good end, ****/****ing,****er/****ed-up/****wad get tedious. "Sal" When the foo ****s... |
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Sal wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... snip Still easier than having to use blasting caps to find the ends of a broken conduit under the finished concrete floor in a new RADAR site. An old fish tape & blasting cap pushed as far as it would go and BOOM!!!. Then repeat for the other end. Then they used a jackhammer to break out the concrete between the huge floor divots to install new conduit. The electrical contractor had failed to tie the conduit to the rebar & wire mesh before the pour. :) Good story. It brought to mind a promotional video I saw for a company that had a process called explosive bonding (of dissimilar metals). They must have been too cheap to rent lights, so they did the demo outside on an old wooden table. It was two guys in overalls and, I swear, they could have retitled it "Gomer and Bubba Find Some Dynamite" and nobody would have noticed. No one wants to let rednecks with dynamite indoors. ;-) -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Joerg wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Joerg wrote: amdx wrote: Hi All, I'm on a boat, about 170ft from the utility post. Recently our cable company switched to the wonderful world of Digital TV. I got the new digital converter and had no picture. I took the box back and got a second box, still no picture. So now I suspect a weak signal and confirm that it is the cable length. The cable company came out and gave me a better cable than I had installed. At this point I have a picture but it is intermittent. The signal at the utility post has 3 outputs and had a four way splitter, I suggested the cable guy put in two 2 way splitters and give me the stronger (first) tap. That got my signal to work almost all the time. I'd like to get the signal to work 100% of the time. Looks like the cable guys screwed up. In your opinion. If their company cable box doesn't deliver a useful and reliable signal I call that screwed up. One pays for a service and expects to either get it delivered as promised or money back. ... If they are delivering the level called for in their franchise, they didn't screw up. It has always been up to the customer to pay for or provide extra equipment for non standard installs. Mike's install does not sound non-standard. 170ft cable drop towards premises which is fairly normal, plus the cable company's set-top box. Grow up. That is an excessive length drop. A standard drop is under 100 feet. You think you know everything, and that the world has to live by your rules. You don't, and it doesn't. ... http://www.starvision.tv/lineup_res.htm Quote "Maximum Drop Length 300 Feet" Now that's what I call good service. ... I'll bet you've never even seen a CATV franchise, or the dozen of pages of specifications agreed to by both the CATV company and the local government. The CATV company isn't a Santa Clause machine, and local governments know why there are limits to the service provided. If there were't, no one could afford to build or operate a CATV system. You've never designed a headend, or a physical plant If they build to supply higher port levels, it has to start at the headend, and requires closer spaced trunk amplifers. The system noise goes up from all of the cascaded amplifers, and the equipment runs hotter, withj a very reduced service life. When you can design an RF distribution system of more than 500 MHz bandwidth and has over 10,000 output ports, with the gain stabilized to a couple dBmv 20 miles from the headend and over a range from sub zero F to + 100 F then you can tell me I'm wrong. One headend I designed and built was only off by .1 dBmv at the test port on the first trunk amp which was a half mile from the head end. If you can do better than that, I'll listen to you and your opinions See above. Obviously others can. And yes, I have designed RF broadband power amps. Lots of them. Not just lashing up boxes but the actual transistor level circuitry including layout guidance for the nasty stuff. Fact is, if a cable company isn't competent to do a 170ft drop they should decline the job. Otherwise it is a screw-up, plain and simple. In our area they'd lose their shirts to the satellite guys because there are many houses like ours where there is no reasonable way to get from the street to the house with a 100ft limit. We have around 200ft that's still there from the early 90's and the previous owner said cable TV worked just fine for them. We are not subscribed because TV ain't that important to us. Yawn. You constantly harp about having to meet specs in medical, but whine like a drunken jackass when other businesses have to meet their specs. yes, they could design the sytems to 300 feet or more, but the cost to every customer on the system would go up. In medical I tend to push the envelope and so do the standards committees. Sometimes based on what we do. I designed all my cardiac stuff defibrillator-proof, always, although it was not the law yet. Then they made it law, because it makes sense. Believe it or not but I like to have to meet specs in medical because they protect people. Including you. ... Would you like to pay an extra 20% to 30% just so a very few locations can get better service? Out here we do not pay extra. Our cable companies out tend do use modern technology, not cheap stuff from the 70's. A cable company that isn't competent enough to do more than a measly 100ft would lose their franchise rather quickly. Oh, that's right. You're too cheap to even have cable TV. Read more carefully. I said TV doesn't matter to us, it is not about cost. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Feb 10, 11:38*am, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:17:03 -0800 (PST), JIMMIE wrote: Jeff, I installed TVRO systems for several years and used a lot of F connectors. Suprisingly the ones I found that worked best were the ultra cheap ones that only took a pair of pliers to fasten *These were the ones with the separate crimp rings. Used with some good quality heat shrink tubing this eliminated most of the problems you mention. I dont know why these connectors went away, my only guess is *that someone wasn't making enough money on them. Jimmie Yech... Please try this test. *Insert such a crimp type F connector and cable into some useless piece of equipment with a type F jack. *Pull on the cable hard. *In my experience, it doesn't take much to make the cable and connector part ways. *Repeat with a screw on connector. *Now, repeat the experiment using a properly assembled compression type F connector and cable. *It takes considerably more brute force to break the connection. *I think the official minimum pull test is 55 lbs, but I'm too lazy to Google for it now. Hiding the workmanship under shrink tube is not very functional. *It will have little effect on the pull test. Most of the cable leakage problems I've seen (and found) were due to crimp type F connectors coming apart or badly crimped. *That includes both the hex shaped crimp, and ones held together with a crimped ring. Bad: http://www.fconnector.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/F-Connector2.jpg Worse: http://www.showmecables.com/images/catalog/product/F-connector-RG59.j... Good: http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/783250/783250926510lg.jpg -- Jeff Liebermann * * 150 Felker St #D * *http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann * * AE6KS * *831-336-255 Sorry Jeff but I never used my connectors to support my cables. You may be right but completely irrelevant to me. To me F connector and good connection shouldn't even be used in the same sentence. They are what that are, cheap connectors at best that uses the center conductor of the cable for a contact. Now that is Yech. Heat shrink has nothing to do with the pull test or hiding poor workmanship but it does help keep corrosion down which is the biggest problem with F connectors. Ive never seen one pull apart except in the shoddiest of installations. One of the best things I have found to insure you maintain a good connection is to apply something like DeOxit to the connectors when you assemble them. Best done while all the parts are new. Jimmie |
Increasing Cable TV signal strength
On Feb 10, 11:38*am, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:17:03 -0800 (PST), JIMMIE wrote: Jeff, I installed TVRO systems for several years and used a lot of F connectors. Suprisingly the ones I found that worked best were the ultra cheap ones that only took a pair of pliers to fasten *These were the ones with the separate crimp rings. Used with some good quality heat shrink tubing this eliminated most of the problems you mention. I dont know why these connectors went away, my only guess is *that someone wasn't making enough money on them. Jimmie Yech... Please try this test. *Insert such a crimp type F connector and cable into some useless piece of equipment with a type F jack. *Pull on the cable hard. *In my experience, it doesn't take much to make the cable and connector part ways. *Repeat with a screw on connector. *Now, repeat the experiment using a properly assembled compression type F connector and cable. *It takes considerably more brute force to break the connection. *I think the official minimum pull test is 55 lbs, but I'm too lazy to Google for it now. Hiding the workmanship under shrink tube is not very functional. *It will have little effect on the pull test. Most of the cable leakage problems I've seen (and found) were due to crimp type F connectors coming apart or badly crimped. *That includes both the hex shaped crimp, and ones held together with a crimped ring. Bad: http://www.fconnector.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/F-Connector2.jpg Worse: http://www.showmecables.com/images/catalog/product/F-connector-RG59.j... Good: http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/783250/783250926510lg.jpg -- Jeff Liebermann * * 150 Felker St #D * *http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann * * AE6KS * *831-336-2558 You are correct that the problem is in the hex crimp and part of this is because they started making the crimp made on to the connector. The other part is that you have to have a special tool to crimp them. All the pictures that you showed are require a special crimp tool. If these tools are worn or dont fit the particular plug/ cable combination you will get a bad crimp. The old style that is probably 40 years old now that you could crimp the little ring with a pair of pliers worked the best. Unfortunately you can no longer get them, well I do have a few. Jimmie |
Increasing Cable TV signal strength
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:35:37 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra
wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:41:38 -0800, John Larkin wrote: Why are you so angry? You've been cursing and ranting here all day, flailing at everyone. This isn't healthy. All that anger will wreck your immune system and make you old fast. You'll stroke out eventually, and not have much fun meanwhile. Really. Why do you not refrain from attacking me? Oh that's right... that is your true goal. FOAD, John Larkin. OK, live the live of your choice. Mean, angry, and short. -- John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators |
Increasing Cable TV signal strength
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, JIMMIE writes On Feb 10, 11:38*am, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:17:03 -0800 (PST), JIMMIE wrote: Jeff, I installed TVRO systems for several years and used a lot of F connectors. Suprisingly the ones I found that worked best were the ultra cheap ones that only took a pair of pliers to fasten *These were the ones with the separate crimp rings. Used with some good quality heat shrink tubing this eliminated most of the problems you mention. I dont know why these connectors went away, my only guess is *that someone wasn't making enough money on them. Jimmie Yech... Please try this test. *Insert such a crimp type F connector and cable into some useless piece of equipment with a type F jack. *Pull on the cable hard. *In my experience, it doesn't take much to make the cable and connector part ways. *Repeat with a screw on connector. *Now, repeat the experiment using a properly assembled compression type F connector and cable. *It takes considerably more brute force to break the connection. *I think the official minimum pull test is 55 lbs, but I'm too lazy to Google for it now. Hiding the workmanship under shrink tube is not very functional. *It will have little effect on the pull test. Most of the cable leakage problems I've seen (and found) were due to crimp type F connectors coming apart or badly crimped. *That includes both the hex shaped crimp, and ones held together with a crimped ring. Bad: http://www.fconnector.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/F-Connector2.jpg Worse: http://www.showmecables.com/images/catalog/product/F-connector-RG59.j... Good: http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/783250/783250926510lg.jpg -- Jeff Liebermann * * 150 Felker St #D * *http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann * * AE6KS * *831-336-255 Sorry Jeff but I never used my connectors to support my cables. You may be right but completely irrelevant to me. To me F connector and good connection shouldn't even be used in the same sentence. They are what that are, cheap connectors at best that uses the center conductor of the cable for a contact. Now that is Yech. Heat shrink has nothing to do with the pull test or hiding poor workmanship but it does help keep corrosion down which is the biggest problem with F connectors. Ive never seen one pull apart except in the shoddiest of installations. One of the best things I have found to insure you maintain a good connection is to apply something like DeOxit to the connectors when you assemble them. Best done while all the parts are new. There little wrong with good quality F-connectors. They are generally good enough for what they were intended for. Problems are usually down to who installs them, and how. For personal outdoor use, I always give any connectors a squirt of WD40 - both during and after installation. [I guess DeOxit would be similar or better.] After cleaning off most of the WD40, I then seal with self-amalgamating tape. Obviously, heatshrink would be better, but for me, is usually less convenient. Mechanically, even screw-on Fs can be hard to dislodge, provided just the right amount of braid is trapped under the screw thread. However, I suppose that sometimes they might not provide the ultimate in screening. In the UK, in the large CATV networks, crimped connectors are well and truly a thing of the past. Anyone using them (even the good ones) would be liable to be hung, drawn and quartered, and then severely punished. The standard connector is of the 'Snap and Seal' type (and similar). In themselves, these are pretty well watertight, and the screening is excellent. It should be almost impossible to pull one off the cable. However, it is unusual for F-connections to appear naked in the open air. The final RF distribution to the home is invariably from a street cabinet which houses an optical node or an RF distribution / line extender amplifier feeding a bank of taps/splitters. The 'traditional' cascade of in-line taps has not been used for a very long time. Under these relatively benign conditions, the F-connectors probably suffer much less from corrosion than those used on taps hanging on aerial messenger wires, USA-style. Nevertheless, there are various purpose-made short 'chunky' rubber sleeves which can be installed first on the tap ports before the cable connectors are screwed on. These seal the screw threads. Personally, I would have liked to have seen a bit of WD40 used but I never managed to drum up much enthusiasm for this as an approved practice. -- Ian |
Increasing Cable TV signal strength
"The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:52:11 -0600, tom wrote: On 2/10/2012 8:32 PM, Wayne wrote: He really needs to create a new file from which to cut and paste. Like most comedians', his jokes get stale after awhile. -- VWW, K6EVE - But you must admit that this normally quiet newsgroup finally has some activity. Who knows, this could take on the characteristics of the GFW. --Wayne W5GIE "GFW=Great Fractal Wars" Unfortunately the traffic has nothing to do with antennas. Things dried up here around 6 months ago. I suspect the people with brains and stories, and some of us remember who they are, are no longer with us or finally bailed due to the noise. I was playing with Moonrakers way back in the early seventies. - Moonrakers? LOL. Ok now we have you calibrated. I suppose Giant Rat of Sumatra was your "call sign". |
Increasing Cable TV signal strength
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 07:51:08 -0800, Joerg
wrote: Believe it or not but I like to have to meet specs in medical because they protect people. Including you. More than a bit full of yourself. Engineers follow standards because standards are developed by engineers to give us all uniformity where it is needed. You claiming it is due to your special care for us is disingenuous. You discounting standards in other areas is casual lameness, and it pretty much defines you,and sullies all other claimed accomplishments. |
Increasing Cable TV signal strength
The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 07:51:08 -0800, Joerg wrote: Believe it or not but I like to have to meet specs in medical because they protect people. Including you. More than a bit full of yourself. Engineers follow standards because standards are developed by engineers to give us all uniformity where it is needed. You claiming it is due to your special care for us is disingenuous. No. I know for a fact that paddles were applied while a system of ours was connected. The doc should have first pulled the plug as the procedure calls for, but didn't. The witnessing engineer almost froze but the patient interface held. If it hadn't someone would most likely have died. I had designed it defibrillator-proof even though the standard did not (yet) require this. You discounting standards in other areas is casual lameness, ... Like where? And what particular standard? Quote, please. [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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