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Rob[_8_] April 20th 12 05:28 PM

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Rob" napisal w wiadomosci
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
If you don't believe that photons can cause heating, go stand in
front of an active radar dish.

There are the "oscilltory flow of electrons".
S*


No. The same effect occurs when you put the dish in vacuum.


In vacuum is rare plasma (ions and electrons). Plasma is a conductor.
The electrons are free to move.
S*


If the propagation of electromagnetic waves would be dependent on
residual electrons present in the imperfect vacuum (like in space),
there would be a tendency for propagation to become worse when the vacuum
would be more and more perfect. There is no such effect ever observed.

[email protected] April 20th 12 07:02 PM

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

What is the source of the heat in microwave oven?


Resistive loss.



[email protected] April 20th 12 07:06 PM

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

napisa? w wiadomo?ci
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:


"This is usually a
large conductor attached to one side of the power supply (such as the
"ground plane" on a printed circuit board) ". From Wiki.


On many modern circuit boards there is no large conductor.

You are a babbling idiot.


Not me but the Autor of Wiki.


What is an "Autor".

You are a babbling idiot.



W5DXP April 20th 12 07:18 PM

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On Apr 20, 10:59*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
(re radar) There are the "oscilltory flow of electrons".


Sorry about your theory but radar signals travel at the speed of
light, a feat that is impossible for electrons.
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

W5DXP April 20th 12 07:20 PM

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On Apr 20, 11:08*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Electron waves travel in the Dirac electron sea with the speed of light.
Like the sound waves in the air.


Since each individual electron's mass would be infinite, I guess
that's where black holes come from.
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

Rob[_8_] April 20th 12 07:35 PM

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wrote:
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

What is the source of the heat in microwave oven?


Resistive loss.


No, I don't think so. A microwave works by agitating the water molecules
because they are dipoles that twist around in the electromagnetic field.
As an increased level of agitation is equivalent to higher temperature,
this immediately heats the water independent of resistive losses.
(which of cause will be a factor when attempting to heat stuff that has
no bipolar molecules and/or when using a resistive container to bake
rather than merely heat something)

[email protected] April 20th 12 07:54 PM

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Rob wrote:
wrote:
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

What is the source of the heat in microwave oven?


Resistive loss.


No, I don't think so. A microwave works by agitating the water molecules
because they are dipoles that twist around in the electromagnetic field.
As an increased level of agitation is equivalent to higher temperature,
this immediately heats the water independent of resistive losses.
(which of cause will be a factor when attempting to heat stuff that has
no bipolar molecules and/or when using a resistive container to bake
rather than merely heat something)


Actually I meant to say dielectric loss; you are correct.




tom April 21st 12 02:48 AM

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On 4/20/2012 10:59 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
napisal w wiadomosci
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On Apr 20, 2:50 am, "Szczepan wrote:
What is the source of the heat in microwave oven?


The Big Bang is the source of all energy in the universe. :)

Microwave photons are the immediate cause of heating in a microwave
oven.

Photons are the wave packets. It apply only to natural light and the damped
radio waves.

Todays radio waves are continuous.


So you are saying that modulation can't work?

tom
K0TAR

Szczepan Bialek April 21st 12 07:51 AM

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"tom" napisal w wiadomosci
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On 4/20/2012 10:59 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
napisal w wiadomosci
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On Apr 20, 2:50 am, "Szczepan wrote:
What is the source of the heat in microwave oven?


The Big Bang is the source of all energy in the universe. :)

Microwave photons are the immediate cause of heating in a microwave
oven.

Photons are the wave packets. It apply only to natural light and the
damped
radio waves.

Todays radio waves are continuous.


So you are saying that modulation can't work?


Continuous waves are opposite to damped waves.
Continuous with the changde amplitudes are AM (amplitude modulation) or FM.
S*



Szczepan Bialek April 21st 12 07:57 AM

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"W5DXP" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Apr 20, 10:59 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
(re radar) There are the "oscilltory flow of electrons".


Sorry about your theory but radar signals travel at the speed of

light, a feat that is impossible for electrons.

Wind is like the electron beam. They travel with the "wind' speed.
The sound and electron waves like the oscillating species (electrons or
molecules). They travel with the wave speed.
S*




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