Szczepan Bialek wrote:

" modern material on electromagnetics," is wrote by Heaviside"

Modern material on electromagnetics was written LONG after Heaviside died,
you babbling, ineducable idiot.

snip 100 year old quote

His "own course" is without the "electric particles". In Maxwell model were
such.
What "role electons play" in antennas (not in fields)?

The analysis of antennas is about the analysis of fields, you babbbling,
ineducable idiot.

If your were to read, and reread until you really understand it, any
MODERN material on electromagnetics, you would then know what role electons
play in electromagnetics and electromagnetic fields.

Yes, electrons are involved in electromagnetic fields, but no, electrons
do NOT jump off antenna elements.

Why are you incapable of getting a University level textbook, in any
language, on electromagnetics and reading it?

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"W5DXP" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Saturday, July 14, 2012 2:38:16 AM UTC-5, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
What "role electons play" in antennas (not in fields)?

You should forgive Maxwell's ignorance and join us in the 21st century.
Free electrons act as a "bucket brigade" for the coherent photons which
make up the quantized fields/waves surrounding the antenna conductor. If
Maxwell were alive today, he would have rewritten his works to correct his
ignorant mistakes. Would you still be studying his obsolete works or his
new corrected works?

I do not studying Maxwell, Heaviside's and his new corrected works. Jimp do
it and recommend it to me.

You babbling, ignorant, stupid, ineducable, idiot, I reccommended you read
MODERN texts, that is texts written LONG after Heaviside died.

I am in the 21st century. It is the plazma time.

You are in the 19th century and "plazma" is not a word.

Why are you incapable of getting a current University level textbook, in any
language, on electromagnetics and reading it?

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

I do not studying Maxwell, Heaviside's and his new corrected works. Jimp
do
it and recommend it to me.

You babbling, ignorant, stupid, ineducable, idiot, I reccommended you read
MODERN texts, that is texts written LONG after Heaviside died.

MODERN texts use the Biot-Savart law.
"1825 - Ampere publishes his collected results on magnetism. His
expression for the magnetic field produced by a small segment of current is
different from that which follows naturally from the Biot-Savart law by an
additive term which integrates to zero around closed circuit. It is
unfortunate that electrodynamics and relativity decide in favor of Biot and
Savart rather than for the much more sophisticated Ampere, whose memoir
contains both mathematical analysis and experimentation, artfully blended
together. In this memoir are given some special instances of the result we
now call Stokes theorem or as we usually write it. Maxwell describes this
work as ``one of the most brilliant achievements in science. The whole,
theory and experiment, seems as if it had leaped, full-grown and full-armed,
from the brain of the `Newton of electricity'. It is perfect in form and
unassailable in accuracy; and it is summed up in a formula from which all
the phenomena may be deduced, and which must always remain the cardinal
formula of electrodynamics.''

I am in the 21st century. It is the plazma time.

Why are you incapable of getting a current University level textbook, in
any
language, on electromagnetics and reading it?

Electromagnetics is a piece to teach (for children).

For adults are electrodynamics. In a current University level textbook are
many chapters.
The fields are only a math tool. Completly useless for electrons.
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

I do not studying Maxwell, Heaviside's and his new corrected works. Jimp
do
it and recommend it to me.

You babbling, ignorant, stupid, ineducable, idiot, I reccommended you read
MODERN texts, that is texts written LONG after Heaviside died.

MODERN texts use the Biot-Savart law.

You babbling, ignorant, stupid, ineducable, idiot, Biot-Savart applies
to magnetostatics, which has NOTHING to do with how antennas work.

Jefimenko's equations are the basis of modern electromagnetic field analysis.

Jefimenko's equations first appeared in print in 1962.

snip qoute from 187 years ago

Electromagnetics is a piece to teach (for children).

Gibberish.

For adults are electrodynamics. In a current University level textbook are
many chapters.

More gibberish.

The fields are only a math tool. Completly useless for electrons.

Yet more gibberish.

All the above is the meaningless, ignorant babble of a moron.

You are a babbling, ignorant, stupid, ineducable, idiot.

Why are you unable to obtain and read a modern, university text and
read it in any language?

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:


MODERN texts use the Biot-Savart law.

You babbling, ignorant, stupid, ineducable, idiot, Biot-Savart applies
to magnetostatics, which has NOTHING to do with how antennas work.

Jefimenko's equations are the basis of modern electromagnetic field
analysis.

Jefimenko's equations first appeared in print in 1962.

"Jackson characterizes the equations as "Jefimenko's generalization of the
Coulomb and Biot-Savart Laws".

Heaviside and Jefimenko assumed that: "That a moving charge is equivalent to
an electric current-element is undoubted, and to call it a
convection-current. as Prof. S. P. Thompson does, seems reasonable." From:
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Elect..._moving_charge

It is not reasonable. In current are many charges (electrons). No
experimental evidences what the magnetic field is in the case of the one
charge.

The reasonable aproach is the Faraday's:
" Whatever the view adopted respecting them may be, we can, at all events,
affect these lines of force in a manner which may be conceived as partaking
of the nature of a shake or lateral vibration. For suppose two bodies, A B,
distant from each other and under mutual action, and therefore connected by
lines of force, and let us fix our attention upon one resultant of force,
having an invariable direction as regards space; if one of the bodies move
in the least degree right or left, or if its power be shifted for a moment
within the mass (neither of these cases being difficult to realise if A and
B be either electric or magnetic bodies), then an effect equivalent to a
lateral disturbance will take place in the resultant upon which we are
fixing our attention; for, either it will increase in force whilst the
neighboring results are diminishing, or it will fall in force as they are
increasing."

Here the oscillating charge causes the lateral disturbances.
In Biot-Savart are the rotational disturbances.
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:


MODERN texts use the Biot-Savart law.

You babbling, ignorant, stupid, ineducable, idiot, Biot-Savart applies
to magnetostatics, which has NOTHING to do with how antennas work.

Jefimenko's equations are the basis of modern electromagnetic field
analysis.

Jefimenko's equations first appeared in print in 1962.

"Jackson characterizes the equations as "Jefimenko's generalization of the
Coulomb and Biot-Savart Laws".

Yes, but you haven't a clue what that really means.

Heaviside and Jefimenko assumed that: "That a moving charge is equivalent to
an electric current-element is undoubted, and to call it a
convection-current. as Prof. S. P. Thompson does, seems reasonable." From:
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Elect..._moving_charge

Irrelevant to the discussion and Heaviside did not fully understand
electromagnetic fields.

It is not reasonable. In current are many charges (electrons). No
experimental evidences what the magnetic field is in the case of the one
charge.

Yes, you ignorant moron, there is LOTS of evidence about the magnetic
field of individual charges, not the least of which is the operation
of the cathode ray tube, possibly known to you as a TV picture tube.

The reasonable aproach is the Faraday's:
" Whatever the view adopted respecting them may be, we can, at all events,
affect these lines of force in a manner which may be conceived as partaking
of the nature of a shake or lateral vibration. For suppose two bodies, A B,
distant from each other and under mutual action, and therefore connected by
lines of force, and let us fix our attention upon one resultant of force,
having an invariable direction as regards space; if one of the bodies move
in the least degree right or left, or if its power be shifted for a moment
within the mass (neither of these cases being difficult to realise if A and
B be either electric or magnetic bodies), then an effect equivalent to a
lateral disturbance will take place in the resultant upon which we are
fixing our attention; for, either it will increase in force whilst the
neighboring results are diminishing, or it will fall in force as they are
increasing."

You haven't a clue what that really means.

Here the oscillating charge causes the lateral disturbances.
In Biot-Savart are the rotational disturbances.
S*

Biot-Savart applies magnetostatics, which has NOTHING to do with how
antennas work.

How many antennas have you built in your lifetime?

Why do you refuse to answer the question?

Is it because you have built zero antennas and you are trying to say all
the people that have successfully built hundreds that they are all wrong
and you don't want to admit you are an ignorant, inducable, idiot?

Why do you refuse to read a university level textbook on electromagnetics?

Is it because you are too ignorant and stupid to understand the contents
in any language?