"kb8viv" wrote in message
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Hey gang, i was working on my full wave horizontal 80 mtr loop and
decided to add either an "ugly balun," or possibly a dx engineering 1:1
balun. The antenna is abt 275 ft long and is currently just fed
directly with coax, and I use it for 10-80 operation with a tuner.

Obviously, i like the cost of building an ugly balun, but will it work
as good as the 1:1 dx engineering balun? Thanks in advance.

73's de kb8viv

I do not ever recall seeing it, but maybe two 'ugly baluns" could be used.
One with say 10 turns (or what ever) and then a few feet away another with
20 turns. One would be good for say 3 to 15 mhz and the other good for 15
to 30 mhz.

However by the time you use this much coax, the bead type choke may be
cheaper.

An interesting thought. I have not read anything that discussed it
before.
Perhaps both the W2DX choke and the ugly balun?

Or may be one is really enough?

On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 12:21:37 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:


"kb8viv" wrote in message
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Hey gang, i was working on my full wave horizontal 80 mtr loop and
decided to add either an "ugly balun," or possibly a dx engineering 1:1
balun. The antenna is abt 275 ft long and is currently just fed
directly with coax, and I use it for 10-80 operation with a tuner.

Obviously, i like the cost of building an ugly balun, but will it work
as good as the 1:1 dx engineering balun? Thanks in advance.

73's de kb8viv

I do not ever recall seeing it, but maybe two 'ugly baluns" could be used.
One with say 10 turns (or what ever) and then a few feet away another with
20 turns. One would be good for say 3 to 15 mhz and the other good for 15
to 30 mhz.

However by the time you use this much coax, the bead type choke may be
cheaper.

John Ferrell W8CCW

I don't have the answer to this one - too many non educated people who thinks that you can stick anything up in the air and hook up an antenna tuner and it will work or work properly - are just kidding themselves..

Buy yourself a resonant antenna and be done with it.

The antenna I use is a Barker & Williamson BWD 90 Folded dipole.
It works everywhere from 10 - 160 meters - WITHOUT A ANTENNA TUNER.

My other antenna is a off center fed dipole, does everything except 15 meters.
Does not require antenna tuner.

Antenna Tuners or trickers as I call them, does not make the antenna resonant, it just tricks the transmitter into thinking that it is putting it's power into a true 50 ohm load.

Hmm...$780? I don't think so, LOL.

"BDWS-65n 4 - 54 Mhz Folded Dipole, Stainless Steel, 65 Ft, N connector, 1 KW"

How can they ask $780 for this antenna? Am I missing something? I can't imagine this would outperform my loop, especially on the low bands.

Thanks for the recommendation, though.

kb8viv