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On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 09:10:34 -0700 (PDT), Wassim
wrote: 1) We are told that vertical antennas over salt water are highly effective. Very effective. We have a local AM broadcast station with two antennas (KSCO/KOMY) located in the middle of a brackish lagoon. With 10KW/5KW day/night power, they're stronger than most other stations at the same range. Why? With a vertical, the ground acts as a counterpoise which makes up the other half of a vertical dipole. You want this counterpoise to act as an RF conductor. Dirt is an absorber. Salt water is a conductor. Incidentally, modeling such an antenna is covered in the current issue of QST, May, 2014 Pg 50 "Modeling a Ground Mounted Monopole Can be Tricky". What would an ideal antenna to take advantage of this look like? A better question would be how to avoid the grounding problem. A half wave vertical is a good way. No counterpoise (ground) is required. I don't quite agree with this page: http://www.qsl.net/v73ns/vert.html but it does give you the general effect of using something other than a 1/4 wave monopole. I'm not sure I can answer you question on an ideal antenna without knowing the frequency of operation. The trick will be getting the best ground, without going overboard and creating an un-necessarily large grounding system. 2) We are told that a yagi should be mounted as high up as possible. Is this really true? True. Again, the answer depends on the frequency of operation. At VHF frequencies, the effects of the ground is minimal. On the lower HF frequencies, antenna height has a big effect on the antenna impedance, pattern, and takeoff angle. Why? At VHF, because the earth is not flat and the RF horizon is further away as you get higher. There are calculators available to give you the approximate range at various altitudes (at both ends). http://www.qsl.net/w4sat/horizon.htm For HF, because the ground is a dandy RF absorber. Getting away from the absorbent ground sends more RF in the desired direction. What are the physical/electrical facts behind this phenomenon? Too much to cover here. Plug your mythical antenna into a modeling program and see what happens. That should be sufficient to illustrate the effects of altitude and different grounding. Incidentally, I did a rough model of a 1/2 wave 300 MHz vertical dipole at various heights above ground. Note the changes in takeoff angle: http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/antennas/vertical-dipole/slides/animated-v-dipole.html 3) When a yagi is mounted high above ground, it still performs better if the ground is pretty conductive. Why? Again, the effect is different at HF and VHF/UHF. If you're too close to the ground or buildings, you're going to make a mess of the antenna pattern, takeoff angle, and antenna impedance. You're also going to have some of the RF produced absorbed by the ground. At VHF/UHF, it's fairly easy to get a few wavelengths away from the ground to reduce the effects. At HF, not so easy. Another part of the puzzle is that a conductive ground reflects the signal, while a not so conductive ground absorbs it. The reflected signal may not be going exactly in the direction you want, making the ground system part of the antenna, but at least it's not going into heating the ground or building. With luck, it may be what the receiving station is hearing. Thanks for helping me out. Sure, but next time, please include some numbers. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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