At Fri, 30 May 2014 17:47:22 +0000, jimp rearranged some electrons to
write:

boomer120 wrote:
On 5/28/2014 9:06 AM, Channel Jumper wrote:
John D;819709 Wrote:
Nothing to be found in the main stream media except this one:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTiH6Itu_aQ

(because you else will find out that CO2 tax is utterly bogus)

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtra...spiracy_theory

Look at this-

As far as the Ozone is concerned, NORAD built a 5 Billion Watt
transmitter in the Arctic and found that they could blast holes in it.
What did they find? Well that Ozone is comprised of the little ion's
of energy that the sun gives off and that it recombines at night and
can rebuild itself in as little as 12 hours..

Maybe what these people are seeing is the effects of a directed array
burning off the Ozone in a certain area - it would be a very effective
way to starve out an enemy or at least make it unbearable to live
there...




5 Billion watts. What a large number channel jumper. Do you have any
evidence for this or are you just stupid?

If you are going to make something up, please make it more fun to read.
Why not 100 trillion watts.

Channel Humper is confused yet again.

He is babbling about HAARP, which was a DARPA project, not NORAD, has
3.6 MW transmitters and because of antenna gain has an ERP of 5.1 GW,
which BTW is still many orders of magnitude below the energy level of
the Sun, and does effect the ionssphere but does not "blast holes" in
the ozone.

And, it is being shut down.

http://www.adn.com/2014/05/14/347044...dismantle.html

David wrote:
At Fri, 30 May 2014 17:47:22 +0000, jimp rearranged some electrons to
write:

boomer120 wrote:
On 5/28/2014 9:06 AM, Channel Jumper wrote:
John D;819709 Wrote:
Nothing to be found in the main stream media except this one:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTiH6Itu_aQ

(because you else will find out that CO2 tax is utterly bogus)

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtra...spiracy_theory

Look at this-

As far as the Ozone is concerned, NORAD built a 5 Billion Watt
transmitter in the Arctic and found that they could blast holes in it.
What did they find? Well that Ozone is comprised of the little ion's
of energy that the sun gives off and that it recombines at night and
can rebuild itself in as little as 12 hours..

Maybe what these people are seeing is the effects of a directed array
burning off the Ozone in a certain area - it would be a very effective
way to starve out an enemy or at least make it unbearable to live
there...




5 Billion watts. What a large number channel jumper. Do you have any
evidence for this or are you just stupid?

If you are going to make something up, please make it more fun to read.
Why not 100 trillion watts.

Channel Humper is confused yet again.

He is babbling about HAARP, which was a DARPA project, not NORAD, has
3.6 MW transmitters and because of antenna gain has an ERP of 5.1 GW,
which BTW is still many orders of magnitude below the energy level of
the Sun, and does effect the ionssphere but does not "blast holes" in
the ozone.

And, it is being shut down.

http://www.adn.com/2014/05/14/347044...dismantle.html

Actually it was shut down in May of 2013 and it was thought there would
be more activity sponsored by someone else later, but that didn't happen.

Now the Air Force is going to gather up it's toys and go home.


--
Jim Pennino

At Sat, 31 May 2014 20:12:41 +0000, jimp rearranged some electrons to
write:

David wrote:
At Fri, 30 May 2014 17:47:22 +0000, jimp rearranged some electrons to
write:

boomer120 wrote:
On 5/28/2014 9:06 AM, Channel Jumper wrote:
John D;819709 Wrote:
Nothing to be found in the main stream media except this one:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTiH6Itu_aQ

(because you else will find out that CO2 tax is utterly bogus)

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints:
---


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtra...spiracy_theory

Look at this-

As far as the Ozone is concerned, NORAD built a 5 Billion Watt
transmitter in the Arctic and found that they could blast holes in
it.
What did they find? Well that Ozone is comprised of the little
ion's of energy that the sun gives off and that it recombines at
night and can rebuild itself in as little as 12 hours..

Maybe what these people are seeing is the effects of a directed
array burning off the Ozone in a certain area - it would be a very
effective way to starve out an enemy or at least make it unbearable
to live there...




5 Billion watts. What a large number channel jumper. Do you have any
evidence for this or are you just stupid?

If you are going to make something up, please make it more fun to
read.
Why not 100 trillion watts.

Channel Humper is confused yet again.

He is babbling about HAARP, which was a DARPA project, not NORAD, has
3.6 MW transmitters and because of antenna gain has an ERP of 5.1 GW,
which BTW is still many orders of magnitude below the energy level of
the Sun, and does effect the ionssphere but does not "blast holes" in
the ozone.

And, it is being shut down.

http://www.adn.com/2014/05/14/347044...e-prepares-to-
dismantle.html

Actually it was shut down in May of 2013 and it was thought there would
be more activity sponsored by someone else later, but that didn't
happen.

Not exactly. DARPA has been running an experiment there, but they are
wrapping it up.

Now the Air Force is going to gather up it's toys and go home.

Within a few weeks if someone doesn't come up with the funds to keep it
going.

On Sat, 31 May 2014 20:12:41 -0000, wrote:

David wrote:
At Fri, 30 May 2014 17:47:22 +0000, jimp rearranged some electrons to
write:

boomer120 wrote:
On 5/28/2014 9:06 AM, Channel Jumper wrote:
John D;819709 Wrote:
Nothing to be found in the main stream media except this one:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTiH6Itu_aQ

(because you else will find out that CO2 tax is utterly bogus)

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtra...spiracy_theory

Look at this-

As far as the Ozone is concerned, NORAD built a 5 Billion Watt
transmitter in the Arctic and found that they could blast holes in it.
What did they find? Well that Ozone is comprised of the little ion's
of energy that the sun gives off and that it recombines at night and
can rebuild itself in as little as 12 hours..

Maybe what these people are seeing is the effects of a directed array
burning off the Ozone in a certain area - it would be a very effective
way to starve out an enemy or at least make it unbearable to live
there...




5 Billion watts. What a large number channel jumper. Do you have any
evidence for this or are you just stupid?

If you are going to make something up, please make it more fun to read.
Why not 100 trillion watts.

Channel Humper is confused yet again.

He is babbling about HAARP, which was a DARPA project, not NORAD, has
3.6 MW transmitters and because of antenna gain has an ERP of 5.1 GW,
which BTW is still many orders of magnitude below the energy level of
the Sun, and does effect the ionssphere but does not "blast holes" in
the ozone.

And, it is being shut down.

http://www.adn.com/2014/05/14/347044...dismantle.html

Actually it was shut down in May of 2013 and it was thought there would
be more activity sponsored by someone else later, but that didn't happen.

Now the Air Force is going to gather up it's toys and go home.

It makes me wonder what they have to replace it. I doubt they would abandon such
a powerful tool without having something to replace it. Newer tech, smaller more
compact design, possibly even a mobile installation? HAARP has been blamed for
many different effects over the years it has been active. Weather, geologic
events, health effects, just to name a few of the areas HAARP has been blamed
for causing problems. Without proof, I don't give any of them much importance.
The question is however, what have they replaced HAARP with?

I would love to be able to sift through all the equipment and antennas no longer
being used by HAARP. With the conditions being so poor compared with what the
potential is, I could use more power, be it from amplification or antenna gain -
more power!

In message , Bob
writes
On Sat, 31 May 2014 20:12:41 -0000, wrote:

David wrote:
At Fri, 30 May 2014 17:47:22 +0000, jimp rearranged some electrons to
write:

boomer120 wrote:
On 5/28/2014 9:06 AM, Channel Jumper wrote:
John D;819709 Wrote:
Nothing to be found in the main stream media except this one:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTiH6Itu_aQ

(because you else will find out that CO2 tax is utterly bogus)

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtra...spiracy_theory

Look at this-

As far as the Ozone is concerned, NORAD built a 5 Billion Watt
transmitter in the Arctic and found that they could blast holes in it.
What did they find? Well that Ozone is comprised of the little ion's
of energy that the sun gives off and that it recombines at night and
can rebuild itself in as little as 12 hours..

Maybe what these people are seeing is the effects of a directed array
burning off the Ozone in a certain area - it would be a very effective
way to starve out an enemy or at least make it unbearable to live
there...




5 Billion watts. What a large number channel jumper. Do you have any
evidence for this or are you just stupid?

If you are going to make something up, please make it more fun to read.
Why not 100 trillion watts.

Channel Humper is confused yet again.

He is babbling about HAARP, which was a DARPA project, not NORAD, has
3.6 MW transmitters and because of antenna gain has an ERP of 5.1 GW,
which BTW is still many orders of magnitude below the energy level of
the Sun, and does effect the ionssphere but does not "blast holes" in
the ozone.

And, it is being shut down.

http://www.adn.com/2014/05/14/347044...dismantle.html

Actually it was shut down in May of 2013 and it was thought there would
be more activity sponsored by someone else later, but that didn't happen.

Now the Air Force is going to gather up it's toys and go home.

It makes me wonder what they have to replace it. I doubt they would
abandon such
a powerful tool without having something to replace it. Newer tech,
smaller more
compact design, possibly even a mobile installation? HAARP has been blamed for
many different effects over the years it has been active. Weather, geologic
events, health effects, just to name a few of the areas HAARP has been blamed
for causing problems. Without proof, I don't give any of them much importance.
The question is however, what have they replaced HAARP with?

I would love to be able to sift through all the equipment and antennas
no longer
being used by HAARP. With the conditions being so poor compared with what the
potential is, I could use more power, be it from amplification or
antenna gain -
more power!

Is HAARP actually used for anything (eg to enhance HF propagation when
required) - or is it essentially for experimentation and research?
--
Ian

On 6/8/2014 6:27 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Bob
writes
On Sat, 31 May 2014 20:12:41 -0000, wrote:

David wrote:
At Fri, 30 May 2014 17:47:22 +0000, jimp rearranged some electrons to
write:

boomer120 wrote:
On 5/28/2014 9:06 AM, Channel Jumper wrote:
John D;819709 Wrote:
Nothing to be found in the main stream media except this one:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTiH6Itu_aQ

(because you else will find out that CO2 tax is utterly bogus)

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints:
---


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtra...spiracy_theory

Look at this-

As far as the Ozone is concerned, NORAD built a 5 Billion Watt
transmitter in the Arctic and found that they could blast holes
in it.
What did they find? Well that Ozone is comprised of the little
ion's
of energy that the sun gives off and that it recombines at night and
can rebuild itself in as little as 12 hours..

Maybe what these people are seeing is the effects of a directed
array
burning off the Ozone in a certain area - it would be a very
effective
way to starve out an enemy or at least make it unbearable to live
there...




5 Billion watts. What a large number channel jumper. Do you have any
evidence for this or are you just stupid?

If you are going to make something up, please make it more fun to
read.
Why not 100 trillion watts.

Channel Humper is confused yet again.

He is babbling about HAARP, which was a DARPA project, not NORAD, has
3.6 MW transmitters and because of antenna gain has an ERP of 5.1 GW,
which BTW is still many orders of magnitude below the energy level of
the Sun, and does effect the ionssphere but does not "blast holes" in
the ozone.

And, it is being shut down.

http://www.adn.com/2014/05/14/347044...dismantle.html


Actually it was shut down in May of 2013 and it was thought there would
be more activity sponsored by someone else later, but that didn't
happen.

Now the Air Force is going to gather up it's toys and go home.

It makes me wonder what they have to replace it. I doubt they would
abandon such
a powerful tool without having something to replace it. Newer tech,
smaller more
compact design, possibly even a mobile installation? HAARP has been
blamed for
many different effects over the years it has been active. Weather,
geologic
events, health effects, just to name a few of the areas HAARP has been
blamed
for causing problems. Without proof, I don't give any of them much
importance.
The question is however, what have they replaced HAARP with?

I would love to be able to sift through all the equipment and antennas
no longer
being used by HAARP. With the conditions being so poor compared with
what the
potential is, I could use more power, be it from amplification or
antenna gain -
more power!

Is HAARP actually used for anything (eg to enhance HF propagation when
required) - or is it essentially for experimentation and research?

I thought it was strictly for research - to find out more about the
ionosphere and ionizing effects. But with the cutback in military
spending, a lot of research (and other programs) are being dropped.
HAARP just happens to be the most visible to hams.

Jerry, AI0K


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Jerry Stuckle

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Bob wrote:
On Sat, 31 May 2014 20:12:41 -0000, wrote:

snip

Actually it was shut down in May of 2013 and it was thought there would
be more activity sponsored by someone else later, but that didn't happen.

Now the Air Force is going to gather up it's toys and go home.

It makes me wonder what they have to replace it. I doubt they would
abandon such
a powerful tool without having something to replace it. Newer tech,
smaller more

Well, it looks like they are.

It was a research project and there is no more funding.

compact design, possibly even a mobile installation? HAARP has been

How does one make an antenna array that is 33 acres in size mobile?

blamed for
many different effects over the years it has been active. Weather, geologic
events, health effects, just to name a few of the areas HAARP has been blamed
for causing problems. Without proof, I don't give any of them much importance.
The question is however, what have they replaced HAARP with?

Nothing; once again it was a research project and there is no more funding.

I would love to be able to sift through all the equipment and antennas no
longer
being used by HAARP. With the conditions being so poor compared with what the
potential is, I could use more power, be it from amplification or antenna gain -
more power!

Yeah, the five 2.5 megawatt generators driven by diesel locomotive engines
would be handy around the house during power failures...



--
Jim Pennino