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On 10/26/2014 9:20 PM, Brian Reay wrote:
On 27/10/14 01:02, rickman wrote: On 10/26/2014 8:46 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/26/2014 6:21 PM, Clod's Conscience wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 17:16:25 -0500, Lostgallifreyan wrote: Mike Tomlinson wrote in : RSI Never mind RSI, the acronym for the rest of that is TMI. ![]() That's an initialism http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/initialism An acronym is something like RADAR Radio Detection And Ranging, or GARETH Gormless Amateur Radio Enthusiast Total Headcase. LOL! Does anyone ever talk about amateur radio in these groups? We try, but Evans and his chums usually jump in and ruin the thread. There are moderated groups where he can't get up to his tricks. You've seen his false attempts at technical threads, they are no more than vehicles for abuse, as you've seen. Brian, Actually, I do think they are attempts of technical threads, within his limited capacity of understanding. But they quickly result in abusive responses when his fallacies are pointed out. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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On 10/26/2014 9:34 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/26/2014 9:20 PM, Brian Reay wrote: On 27/10/14 01:02, rickman wrote: On 10/26/2014 8:46 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/26/2014 6:21 PM, Clod's Conscience wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 17:16:25 -0500, Lostgallifreyan wrote: Mike Tomlinson wrote in : RSI Never mind RSI, the acronym for the rest of that is TMI. ![]() That's an initialism http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/initialism An acronym is something like RADAR Radio Detection And Ranging, or GARETH Gormless Amateur Radio Enthusiast Total Headcase. LOL! Does anyone ever talk about amateur radio in these groups? We try, but Evans and his chums usually jump in and ruin the thread. There are moderated groups where he can't get up to his tricks. You've seen his false attempts at technical threads, they are no more than vehicles for abuse, as you've seen. Brian, Actually, I do think they are attempts of technical threads, within his limited capacity of understanding. But they quickly result in abusive responses when his fallacies are pointed out. So why do the rest of you have to act like children as well? Why not just ignore him? I seem to recall that you have stated that you take pleasure in jousting with him. Or do I have you mixed up with someone else? The bottom line is that by arguing with him endlessly it ruins the group for everyone else every bit as much as he does, if not more. If it were just him he would be easy to ignore. The topics he brings up could be discussed without all the back and forth banter. Just treat him as if he were the devil incarnate and refuse to even look his way much less mention his name! -- Rick |
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On 10/26/2014 11:27 PM, rickman wrote:
On 10/26/2014 9:34 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/26/2014 9:20 PM, Brian Reay wrote: On 27/10/14 01:02, rickman wrote: On 10/26/2014 8:46 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/26/2014 6:21 PM, Clod's Conscience wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 17:16:25 -0500, Lostgallifreyan wrote: Mike Tomlinson wrote in : RSI Never mind RSI, the acronym for the rest of that is TMI. ![]() That's an initialism http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/initialism An acronym is something like RADAR Radio Detection And Ranging, or GARETH Gormless Amateur Radio Enthusiast Total Headcase. LOL! Does anyone ever talk about amateur radio in these groups? We try, but Evans and his chums usually jump in and ruin the thread. There are moderated groups where he can't get up to his tricks. You've seen his false attempts at technical threads, they are no more than vehicles for abuse, as you've seen. Brian, Actually, I do think they are attempts of technical threads, within his limited capacity of understanding. But they quickly result in abusive responses when his fallacies are pointed out. So why do the rest of you have to act like children as well? Why not just ignore him? I seem to recall that you have stated that you take pleasure in jousting with him. Or do I have you mixed up with someone else? The bottom line is that by arguing with him endlessly it ruins the group for everyone else every bit as much as he does, if not more. If it were just him he would be easy to ignore. The topics he brings up could be discussed without all the back and forth banter. Just treat him as if he were the devil incarnate and refuse to even look his way much less mention his name! You have me mixed up with someone else. But then why do YOU keep these threads going? -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 21:34:08 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
But they quickly result in abusive responses when his fallacies are pointed out. Watching from the sidelines I see the insults flying in all directions. If someone has made an error there are good ways and bad ways of pointing that out as any parent will know. What we normally see here is the bad way which usually involves attacking the person rather than the idea. -- M0WYM Sales @ radiowymsey http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Sales-At-Radio-Wymsey/ |
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, Brian Reay writes Jerry Stuckle wrote: There are moderated groups where he can't get up to his tricks. You've seen his false attempts at technical threads, they are no more than vehicles for abuse, as you've seen. Brian, Actually, I do think they are attempts of technical threads, within his limited capacity of understanding. But they quickly result in abusive responses when his fallacies are pointed out. His understanding is certainly limited, there is other evidence to support that, but as for attempts at improving understanding, why does recycle the same topics again and again? Some have been around the block several times, even though they have been explained. He makes no attempt to digest the responses he receives, beyond twisting highlights to further his barrage of abuse. Why is this obvious? Well, he rubbishes perfectly valid answers and even, on occasions, goes on to rewrite history as if he has 'found a book' which explains things. The question is, why? Do a search for Westinghouse in the archive of uk.railway I really think that Rick's advice is best, although I wouldn't go as far as to "treat him as if he were the devil incarnate and refuse to even look his way much less mention his name". He has, on the odd occasion, some very valid points to make. However, you have to be careful, as this is sometimes just a ploy (conscious or otherwise) to draw you into what you think is a normal, civilised discussion, and it rapidly turns out not to be. The important thing is not prolong pointless arguments, otherwise you risk getting tarred with the same brush. -- Ian |
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"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
... He has, on the odd occasion, some very valid points to make. I always have valid points to make. However, you have to be careful, as this is sometimes just a ploy (conscious or otherwise) to draw you into what you think is a normal, civilised discussion, and it rapidly turns out not to be. Completely untrue. It is a device of the gratuitously abusive to justify their own abusive psyches by claiming that my intention is to cause abuse, which it has never been in 20 years of subscribing to Usenet. By expressing such an opinion, you are allowing yourself to be brainwashed by reay. The important thing is not prolong pointless arguments, otherwise you risk getting tarred with the same brush. Agree absolutely, but technical discussions are not pointless arguments. |
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On 27/10/14 08:45, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Brian Reay writes Jerry Stuckle wrote: There are moderated groups where he can't get up to his tricks. You've seen his false attempts at technical threads, they are no more than vehicles for abuse, as you've seen. Brian, Actually, I do think they are attempts of technical threads, within his limited capacity of understanding. But they quickly result in abusive responses when his fallacies are pointed out. His understanding is certainly limited, there is other evidence to support that, but as for attempts at improving understanding, why does recycle the same topics again and again? Some have been around the block several times, even though they have been explained. He makes no attempt to digest the responses he receives, beyond twisting highlights to further his barrage of abuse. Why is this obvious? Well, he rubbishes perfectly valid answers and even, on occasions, goes on to rewrite history as if he has 'found a book' which explains things. The question is, why? Do a search for Westinghouse in the archive of uk.railway I really think that Rick's advice is best, although I wouldn't go as far as to "treat him as if he were the devil incarnate and refuse to even look his way much less mention his name". He has, on the odd occasion, some very valid points to make. However, you have to be careful, as this is sometimes just a ploy (conscious or otherwise) to draw you into what you think is a normal, civilised discussion, and it rapidly turns out not to be. The important thing is not prolong pointless arguments, otherwise you risk getting tarred with the same brush. Which is why I make a point of not replying to Evans. OTOH, if others are involved, I'm happy to discuss the topics with then, of course. Sadly, this results in abuse from Evans but we can't let him 'censor' by injecting abuse. |
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In message , Brian Reay writes
Which is why I make a point of not replying to Evans. Maybe not directly, but where possible, I'd also try to refrain from making unnecessary references to historical events - except maybe (for example) when engaged in light-hearted banter and general humorous skit. However, even this may be interpreted by some as being personal attacks. Personally, I would suggest that all posters in this NG adopt a style that would be likely to pass moderation in the forthcoming uk.r.a.m. -- Ian |
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:12:28 +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Brian Reay writes Which is why I make a point of not replying to Evans. Maybe not directly, but where possible, I'd also try to refrain from making unnecessary references to historical events - except maybe (for example) when engaged in light-hearted banter and general humorous skit. However, even this may be interpreted by some as being personal attacks. Are you saying that we should treat him as we would a loony on a bus? |
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In message , Radiohead70
writes On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:12:28 +0000, Ian Jackson wrote: In message , Brian Reay writes Which is why I make a point of not replying to Evans. Maybe not directly, but where possible, I'd also try to refrain from making unnecessary references to historical events - except maybe (for example) when engaged in light-hearted banter and general humorous skit. However, even this may be interpreted by some as being personal attacks. Are you saying that we should treat him as we would a loony on a bus? *You* might think that, but *I* couldn't possibly comment. -- Ian |
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