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Old November 22nd 14, 10:02 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/22/2014 1:07 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/21/2014 8:56 PM,
wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/21/2014 8:19 PM,
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:

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I've also run dipoles - I got WAS on 75 meters from Iowa with an
inverted VEE running from 50' to near ground. And I had a strong signal
on the Iowa 75M SSB net.

I have lots of strong signal reports from around the country on 6M AM
running 3W into a 2 foot collapsible whip.

Of course it was at the height of sunspot cycle 19 and says NOTHING about
the effectiveness of the antenna.




Which has absolutely nothing to do with your comment about a dipole on
75 meters. But you're too stoopid to understand that.

But it has EVERYTHING to do with your comment about WAS.

But you are so enraged about being correct you can not understand that.




Nope. It has NOTHING to do with a dipole on 75 meters - which is the
subject of this thread. You're just trying to derail the conversation
so you don't have to admit you're wrong.


Strawman arguement in an attempt to deflect the arguement from your
WAS statements.


Once again you try to change the subject so that you don't have to admit
you are wrong. In case you haven't figured out - 6 meters and 80 meters
are two entirely different bands with completely different propagation
effects. Trying to tie the two together is just an attempt to deflect
the conversation.


Yet another strawman arguement; the pattern of a dipole expressed in
terms of wavelengths is the same at 3 MHz and 3 GHz.

And during sunspot peaks you get the same NVIS and skywave effects
at 6M.

And the whole point of the 6M statement was that QSL cards or WAS
awards say absolutely nothing about antenna patterns.


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On 11/22/2014 5:02 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/22/2014 1:07 PM,
wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/21/2014 8:56 PM,
wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/21/2014 8:19 PM,
wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

I've also run dipoles - I got WAS on 75 meters from Iowa with an
inverted VEE running from 50' to near ground. And I had a strong signal
on the Iowa 75M SSB net.

I have lots of strong signal reports from around the country on 6M AM
running 3W into a 2 foot collapsible whip.

Of course it was at the height of sunspot cycle 19 and says NOTHING about
the effectiveness of the antenna.




Which has absolutely nothing to do with your comment about a dipole on
75 meters. But you're too stoopid to understand that.

But it has EVERYTHING to do with your comment about WAS.

But you are so enraged about being correct you can not understand that.




Nope. It has NOTHING to do with a dipole on 75 meters - which is the
subject of this thread. You're just trying to derail the conversation
so you don't have to admit you're wrong.

Strawman arguement in an attempt to deflect the arguement from your
WAS statements.


Once again you try to change the subject so that you don't have to admit
you are wrong. In case you haven't figured out - 6 meters and 80 meters
are two entirely different bands with completely different propagation
effects. Trying to tie the two together is just an attempt to deflect
the conversation.


Yet another strawman arguement; the pattern of a dipole expressed in
terms of wavelengths is the same at 3 MHz and 3 GHz.

And during sunspot peaks you get the same NVIS and skywave effects
at 6M.

And the whole point of the 6M statement was that QSL cards or WAS
awards say absolutely nothing about antenna patterns.



Once again you try to change the subject so that you don't have to admit
you are wrong. In case you haven't figured out - 6 meters and 80 meters
are two entirely different bands with completely different propagation
effects. Trying to tie the two together is just an attempt to deflect
the conversation.

Just like the troll you are.


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Jerry Stuckle wrote:

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And the whole point of the 6M statement was that QSL cards or WAS
awards say absolutely nothing about antenna patterns.



Once again you try to change the subject so that you don't have to admit
you are wrong. In case you haven't figured out - 6 meters and 80 meters
are two entirely different bands with completely different propagation
effects. Trying to tie the two together is just an attempt to deflect
the conversation.


I'll just chalk up your total inability to read and understand what
I actually wrote to your current delusional rage.

But in case you get a glimmer of rationality, here is the essence of
my statement: "QSL cards or WAS awards say absolutely nothing about
antenna patterns".




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Old November 23rd 14, 01:39 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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On 11/22/2014 7:10 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/22/2014 6:28 PM,
wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

And the whole point of the 6M statement was that QSL cards or WAS
awards say absolutely nothing about antenna patterns.

Once again you try to change the subject so that you don't have to admit
you are wrong. In case you haven't figured out - 6 meters and 80 meters
are two entirely different bands with completely different propagation
effects. Trying to tie the two together is just an attempt to deflect
the conversation.

I'll just chalk up your total inability to read and understand what
I actually wrote to your current delusional rage.

But in case you get a glimmer of rationality, here is the essence of
my statement: "QSL cards or WAS awards say absolutely nothing about
antenna patterns".


And once again you dismiss something that disagrees with your fantasies.
Just like a troll.


Missed the whole point yet again, didn't you?

Still in a rage, aren't you?

FYI - you don't get QSL cards without a working antenna.


FYI a QSL card is not a measurement of antenna gain or pattern.



You don't get QSL cards without a working antenna.

On second thought - YOU probably do.

It is very interesting that you accept reports which agree with your
fantasies, but not those which conflict with those fantasies.

How like a troll.

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Old November 23rd 14, 02:11 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/22/2014 7:10 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/22/2014 6:28 PM,
wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

And the whole point of the 6M statement was that QSL cards or WAS
awards say absolutely nothing about antenna patterns.

Once again you try to change the subject so that you don't have to admit
you are wrong. In case you haven't figured out - 6 meters and 80 meters
are two entirely different bands with completely different propagation
effects. Trying to tie the two together is just an attempt to deflect
the conversation.

I'll just chalk up your total inability to read and understand what
I actually wrote to your current delusional rage.

But in case you get a glimmer of rationality, here is the essence of
my statement: "QSL cards or WAS awards say absolutely nothing about
antenna patterns".


And once again you dismiss something that disagrees with your fantasies.
Just like a troll.


Missed the whole point yet again, didn't you?

Still in a rage, aren't you?

FYI - you don't get QSL cards without a working antenna.


FYI a QSL card is not a measurement of antenna gain or pattern.



You don't get QSL cards without a working antenna.


A QSL card says nothing about how well an antenna works.

If QSL cards were a valid metric, all the antenna manufacturers could
do away with those useless pattern and gain numbers and rate all their
antennas by the number of QSL cards it will collect.

I can see it now; the Jerry Stuckle gold standard antenna with a
5.0 kQSL rating.


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