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On 7/27/2015 5:17 PM, Dave Platt wrote:
Just today I got a question from a new ham on the pronunciation of balun.

He has been around the scientific community a lot (physicists, etc.) but not
many RF types such as engineers or hams.

He claims that he rarely has ever hear the pronunciation "bal uhn", and I've
rarely heard "bayl uhn".


I suspect it may be a regional-accent sort of thing. Some people
probably pronounce it based on its word origin ("balanced/unbalanced",
hence "bal uhn") and some based on its appearance (like "basic" or
"basted" or even "bailin' wire").




When balun is mispronounced "bayl uhn" it increases the original
insertion loss by 2.3 percent. "Bailin" causes an increase loss of 3.3
percent. These losses can be reduced substantially by removing the
"baeleen".
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On 7/27/2015 5:55 PM, FBMBoomer wrote:
On 7/27/2015 5:17 PM, Dave Platt wrote:
Just today I got a question from a new ham on the pronunciation of
balun.

He has been around the scientific community a lot (physicists, etc.)
but not
many RF types such as engineers or hams.

He claims that he rarely has ever hear the pronunciation "bal uhn",
and I've
rarely heard "bayl uhn".


I suspect it may be a regional-accent sort of thing. Some people
probably pronounce it based on its word origin ("balanced/unbalanced",
hence "bal uhn") and some based on its appearance (like "basic" or
"basted" or even "bailin' wire").




When balun is mispronounced "bayl uhn" it increases the original
insertion loss by 2.3 percent. "Bailin" causes an increase loss of 3.3
percent. These losses can be reduced substantially by removing the
"baeleen".


If it is pronounced "transformer", the insertion gain goes up 3.05 degrees.
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In message , John S
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On 7/27/2015 5:55 PM, FBMBoomer wrote:
On 7/27/2015 5:17 PM, Dave Platt wrote:
Just today I got a question from a new ham on the pronunciation of
balun.

He has been around the scientific community a lot (physicists, etc.)
but not
many RF types such as engineers or hams.

He claims that he rarely has ever hear the pronunciation "bal uhn",
and I've
rarely heard "bayl uhn".

I suspect it may be a regional-accent sort of thing. Some people
probably pronounce it based on its word origin ("balanced/unbalanced",
hence "bal uhn") and some based on its appearance (like "basic" or
"basted" or even "bailin' wire").




When balun is mispronounced "bayl uhn" it increases the original
insertion loss by 2.3 percent. "Bailin" causes an increase loss of 3.3
percent. These losses can be reduced substantially by removing the
"baeleen".


If it is pronounced "transformer", the insertion gain goes up 3.05 degrees.


F, C or K?
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In message , Jeff writes

When balun is mispronounced "bayl uhn" it increases the original
insertion loss by 2.3 percent. "Bailin" causes an increase loss of 3.3
percent. These losses can be reduced substantially by removing the
"baeleen".

If it is pronounced "transformer", the insertion gain goes up 3.05
degrees.


F, C or K?


Perhaps we should debate how to pronounce 'pronunciation' (:-))

As she is spelt - which is certainty NOT the way most of the BBC's
employees - including members of its Pronunciation Department - do!!!!
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 17:55:58 -0500, FBMBoomer
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When balun is mispronounced "bayl uhn" it increases the original
insertion loss by 2.3 percent. "Bailin" causes an increase loss of 3.3
percent. These losses can be reduced substantially by removing the
"baeleen".


If you really want inflated losses, I suggest you pronounce it
"balloon".

https://www.google.com/#q=pronounce+balun
Here's 4 ways to pronounce it. Add your own mutation:
https://www.howtopronounce.com/balun/

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On 7/27/2015 9:35 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 17:55:58 -0500, FBMBoomer
wrote:

When balun is mispronounced "bayl uhn" it increases the original
insertion loss by 2.3 percent. "Bailin" causes an increase loss of 3.3
percent. These losses can be reduced substantially by removing the
"baeleen".


If you really want inflated losses, I suggest you pronounce it
"balloon".

https://www.google.com/#q=pronounce+balun
Here's 4 ways to pronounce it. Add your own mutation:
https://www.howtopronounce.com/balun/


I saw those and listened. Two aren't even... what's the phonic
equivalent of legible? A third sounds like the speaker is dying. They
have thumbs up and down voting.

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On 7/27/2015 8:35 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 17:55:58 -0500, FBMBoomer
wrote:

When balun is mispronounced "bayl uhn" it increases the original
insertion loss by 2.3 percent. "Bailin" causes an increase loss of 3.3
percent. These losses can be reduced substantially by removing the
"baeleen".


If you really want inflated losses, I suggest you pronounce it
"balloon".

https://www.google.com/#q=pronounce+balun
Here's 4 ways to pronounce it. Add your own mutation:
https://www.howtopronounce.com/balun/

That was the topper Jeff. Good for you

:-)
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On 7/27/2015 3:45 PM, Wayne wrote:
Just today I got a question from a new ham on the pronunciation of balun.

He has been around the scientific community a lot (physicists, etc.) but
not many RF types such as engineers or hams.

He claims that he rarely has ever hear the pronunciation "bal uhn", and
I've rarely heard "bayl uhn".

Anybody want to weigh in on this, heh heh


I found this at ARRL:

https://www.arrl.org/files/file/Tech...df/7902015.pdf

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On 7/27/2015 6:03 PM, John S wrote:
On 7/27/2015 3:45 PM, Wayne wrote:
Just today I got a question from a new ham on the pronunciation of balun.

He has been around the scientific community a lot (physicists, etc.) but
not many RF types such as engineers or hams.

He claims that he rarely has ever hear the pronunciation "bal uhn", and
I've rarely heard "bayl uhn".

Anybody want to weigh in on this, heh heh


I found this at ARRL:

https://www.arrl.org/files/file/Tech...df/7902015.pdf


Sorry, I should have added: See the section "Baluns - Are They Necessary?"
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"John S" wrote in message ...

On 7/27/2015 3:45 PM, Wayne wrote:
Just today I got a question from a new ham on the pronunciation of balun.

He has been around the scientific community a lot (physicists, etc.) but
not many RF types such as engineers or hams.

He claims that he rarely has ever hear the pronunciation "bal uhn", and
I've rarely heard "bayl uhn".

Anybody want to weigh in on this, heh heh


I found this at ARRL:


https://www.arrl.org/files/file/Tech...df/7902015.pdf


Thanks, I'm going to forward this to my buddy.



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