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December 7th 15, 08:22 AM
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Follow up to Spike ;Bent dipoles?
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 01:17:34 -0000, wrote: The term is "skywave" and it is not known to happen below 500 kHz. I beg to differ. The current issue of QEX has an article on a WWVB 60 KHz frequency standard: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/QEX_Next_Issue/2015/Nov-Dec_2015/Magliacane.pdf On Pg 15 is the section on 60 KHz propagation: LF radio propagation is substantially different from that which exists at higher frequencies. Its remarkable stability and reliability have often led to the belief that 60 kHz signals propagate great distances over ground wave paths alone. In reality, a combination of surface wave and D-layer ionospheric paths are responsible for WWVB signal propagation. At night, cosmic background radiation supports a level of D-layer ionization that is sufficient for propagating LF (and lower frequency) radio signals over long distances. Greater D-layer efficiencies and increased effective height with decreased ionization levels contribute to greater signal coverage during the nighttime hours. etc... Note that nowhere in there is the term skywave used. So, here we have propagation via the ionospheric D-Layer which I believe is considered a skywave. Note that the author talks about measuring broadcast band frequencies to an accuracy 312 micro-hertz, where such things as varying path lengths are important. The wavelength of 60 KHz is about 5 km. The height of the D layer varies from 60 to 90 km or about 12 to 18 wavelengths at 60 KHz. That's too big for a waveguide structure, which suggests that the dominant mode of propagation is skywave, not ground wave. We will have to disagree here. If it were reflections from the D-layer, one would expect to see a "hole" in the signal level starting at around a few hundred miles or so extending to around a thousand miles or so where the level would come back up. Such "holes" in signal strength from skywave propagation are easily seen in the plots you can get from the pskreporter web site. There are no holes in the WWVB signal strength. Something else is at play here but I'm not sure what to call it, but I would not call it skywave. There is no frequency at which ground wave ceases and skywave takes over. There seems to be quite a bit of overlap. Yes, and it is again easily seen in the plots from pskreporter, expecially on 160 and 80 meters. Mo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_low_frequency#Propagation_characteristics Here it is refered to as "ducting". Sounds like a better term to me. -- Jim Pennino |
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