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Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artículo , gareth escribió: If you had a teenage daughter, which would you prefer her to receive, sex education or sex training? You disgusting old pervert. Just shows how your mind works. Bet you'd like to do the sex training yourself, on a one-to-one basis, hm? Nah, he's recently admitted that, these days, the only lumps he gets in the trousers is at the back. |
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On 05/12/2015 15:07, Phil Kyle wrote:
On 05/12/15 12:32, Jimbo in the Borders ... wrote: "Phil Kyle" wrote in message web.com... On 05/12/15 12:16, Jimbo in the Borders ... wrote: I admit it ....I wasn't beat up ... I suggest ignoring Gareth for the rest of Dec. Not crowing about shunning, or talking around him, just plain ignoring his posts. why?... Because he's shown time and time again that he's unwilling to listen to reason, so any reply just gives him an excuse to post even more hysterical nonsense. I don't think that he's as technically inept as he like us to believe - he only posts his bizarre theories because he knows that a number of people can't resist correcting them¹ which does nothing to educate him and just gives him a reason to squeal "abuse". ¹ https://xkcd.com/386/ so you would rather have a liar like brian ? .... -- Man at Oxfam All things DIGITAL do not work No spare wheel isn't progress Class A radio hams do exist A rubber cam belt is not acceptable I never asked to join the Freemasons |
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On 05/12/2015 15:40, Michael Black wrote:
I've never looked in the UK newsgroup, all I see is when what happens there falls out to the rec.radio.amateur.* hierarchy. Maybe there is a real grievance, maybe not, but out here, I see people more interested in attacking him than talking about amateur radio. Michael very true it is shocking .... -- Man at Oxfam All things DIGITAL do not work No spare wheel isn't progress Class A radio hams do exist A rubber cam belt is not acceptable I never asked to join the Freemasons |
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In message , Brian Reay writes
Jeff, please feel free to join RSGBTech, a Yahoo group which is specifically intended for the technical amateurs and those who wish to learn. It is moderated so the likes of Evans don't get to disrupt it. If you would like an invitation, which speeds up the joining process, drop me an Email. There is a valid address on my website. There's a rumour on the Yahoo NDB list that the Yahoo groups may be numbered. Rumour may stem from :- http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ya...0TN2IC20151205 #KMJHucvR0ufqhUcL.97 Brian -- Brian Howie |
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On 12/7/2015 1:59 PM, Brian Howie wrote:
In message , Brian Reay writes Jeff, please feel free to join RSGBTech, a Yahoo group which is specifically intended for the technical amateurs and those who wish to learn. It is moderated so the likes of Evans don't get to disrupt it. If you would like an invitation, which speeds up the joining process, drop me an Email. There is a valid address on my website. There's a rumour on the Yahoo NDB list that the Yahoo groups may be numbered. Rumour may stem from :- http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ya...0TN2IC20151205 #KMJHucvR0ufqhUcL.97 If Yahoo groups are taken down what are reasonable alternatives? -- Rick |
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Brian Howie wrote:
In message , Brian Reay writes Jeff, please feel free to join RSGBTech, a Yahoo group which is specifically intended for the technical amateurs and those who wish to learn. It is moderated so the likes of Evans don't get to disrupt it. If you would like an invitation, which speeds up the joining process, drop me an Email. There is a valid address on my website. There's a rumour on the Yahoo NDB list that the Yahoo groups may be numbered. Rumour may stem from :- http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ya...0TN2IC20151205 #KMJHucvR0ufqhUcL.97 It'll be GeoCities all over again soon enough, aborted without ceremony. -- STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur |
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rickman wrote:
On 12/7/2015 1:59 PM, Brian Howie wrote: In message , Brian Reay writes Jeff, please feel free to join RSGBTech, a Yahoo group which is specifically intended for the technical amateurs and those who wish to learn. It is moderated so the likes of Evans don't get to disrupt it. If you would like an invitation, which speeds up the joining process, drop me an Email. There is a valid address on my website. There's a rumour on the Yahoo NDB list that the Yahoo groups may be numbered. Rumour may stem from :- http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ya...0TN2IC20151205 #KMJHucvR0ufqhUcL.97 If Yahoo groups are taken down what are reasonable alternatives? Usenet. -- STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur |
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In message , rickman
writes On 12/7/2015 1:59 PM, Brian Howie wrote: In message , Brian Reay writes Jeff, please feel free to join RSGBTech, a Yahoo group which is specifically intended for the technical amateurs and those who wish to learn. It is moderated so the likes of Evans don't get to disrupt it. If you would like an invitation, which speeds up the joining process, drop me an Email. There is a valid address on my website. There's a rumour on the Yahoo NDB list that the Yahoo groups may be numbered. Rumour may stem from :- http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ya...0TN2IC20151205 #KMJHucvR0ufqhUcL.97 If Yahoo groups are taken down what are reasonable alternatives? Google Groups was mentioned as an alterative. I'm not subscribed to any google groups, so I don't know how they work. I use mailing lists for the yahoo groups I use rather than the web client. I don't know if google groups operate mailing lists. Brian -- Brian Howie |
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In message , Stephen Thomas Cole
writes rickman wrote: On 12/7/2015 1:59 PM, Brian Howie wrote: In message , Brian Reay writes Jeff, please feel free to join RSGBTech, a Yahoo group which is specifically intended for the technical amateurs and those who wish to learn. It is moderated so the likes of Evans don't get to disrupt it. If you would like an invitation, which speeds up the joining process, drop me an Email. There is a valid address on my website. There's a rumour on the Yahoo NDB list that the Yahoo groups may be numbered. Rumour may stem from :- http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ya...0TN2IC20151205 #KMJHucvR0ufqhUcL.97 If Yahoo groups are taken down what are reasonable alternatives? Usenet. RFD uk.radio.amateur.rsgbtechgroup.moderated ? The problem with Usenet is you can't have a repository of files . I subscribe to the LTSpice and other yahoo groups that have colossal libraries of useful stuff. Shifting that to Google Groups would be a nightmare. Brian -- Brian Howie |
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On 12/7/2015 2:54 PM, Brian Howie wrote:
In message , rickman writes On 12/7/2015 1:59 PM, Brian Howie wrote: In message , Brian Reay writes Jeff, please feel free to join RSGBTech, a Yahoo group which is specifically intended for the technical amateurs and those who wish to learn. It is moderated so the likes of Evans don't get to disrupt it. If you would like an invitation, which speeds up the joining process, drop me an Email. There is a valid address on my website. There's a rumour on the Yahoo NDB list that the Yahoo groups may be numbered. Rumour may stem from :- http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ya...0TN2IC20151205 #KMJHucvR0ufqhUcL.97 If Yahoo groups are taken down what are reasonable alternatives? Google Groups was mentioned as an alterative. I'm not subscribed to any google groups, so I don't know how they work. I use mailing lists for the yahoo groups I use rather than the web client. I don't know if google groups operate mailing lists. I don't recall if google groups will do the mailing thing or not. I know it originally didn't have any other functions like file storage. I'm not sure what it does now as I don't use it. I know it mirrors usenet stuff. -- Rick |
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En el artículo , Brian Howie
escribió: The problem with Usenet is you can't have a repository of files Yes, you can. uk.d-i-y has the DIY FAQ with loads of useful information, to which anyone can contribute. http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/ I would fully expect any similar facility for uk.ram to be thoroughly abused by Evans and his ilk in no time. If that happens, it'd have to be password protected with submissions made via a named curator. -- (\_/) (='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke! (")_(") |
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Brian Howie wrote:
In message , Stephen Thomas Cole writes rickman wrote: On 12/7/2015 1:59 PM, Brian Howie wrote: In message , Brian Reay writes Jeff, please feel free to join RSGBTech, a Yahoo group which is specifically intended for the technical amateurs and those who wish to learn. It is moderated so the likes of Evans don't get to disrupt it. If you would like an invitation, which speeds up the joining process, drop me an Email. There is a valid address on my website. There's a rumour on the Yahoo NDB list that the Yahoo groups may be numbered. Rumour may stem from :- http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ya...0TN2IC20151205 #KMJHucvR0ufqhUcL.97 If Yahoo groups are taken down what are reasonable alternatives? Usenet. RFD uk.radio.amateur.rsgbtechgroup.moderated ? Sounds like a plan, I'll get drafting. The problem with Usenet is you can't have a repository of files . I subscribe to the LTSpice and other yahoo groups that have colossal libraries of useful stuff. Shifting that to Google Groups would be a nightmare. Well, couldn't a binaries group do the job? There's NSPs out there offering 10 years or so of retention, so any files dumped into, say, uk.radio.amateur.rsgbtechgroup.binaries.moderated would be available for a good long while yet. Here's a thought; we set up the ham.* hierarchy. Groups to include; ham.technical, ham.ragchew, ham.binaries. All moderated, .ragchew exceedingly light-touch, though. Invest some energy into getting ham.* carried by the major NSPs and, bosh, we've got a fail safe for when Yahoo kills Groups. -- STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur |
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Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo , Brian Howie escribió: The problem with Usenet is you can't have a repository of files Yes, you can. uk.d-i-y has the DIY FAQ with loads of useful information, to which anyone can contribute. http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/ I would fully expect any similar facility for uk.ram to be thoroughly abused by Evans and his ilk in no time. If that happens, it'd have to be password protected with submissions made via a named curator. The problem with a web-based solution is that it's only viable as a file repository as long as the owner keeps the URL and hosting paid up. It's inherently constantly "at risk", is what I'm saying. -- STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur |
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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
... Furtheragain, out of the blue, and unrelated to any other discussion, comes a one-sided personal attack from you. Are you absolutely sure that you're not a seriously unhinged stalker? I would fully expect any similar facility for uk.ram to be thoroughly abused by Evans and his ilk in no time. If that happens, it'd have to be password protected with submissions made via a named curator. |
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En el artículo , gareth
escribió: [usual tedious repetitive effluent flushed] My post: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 20:39:06 Fat ****'s reply: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 21:34:19 What was that you were saying about stalking, hypocrite? Are you absolutely sure that you're not a seriously unhinged stalker? That's your Freudian projection at work again, OM. I must bow to your greater experience and your advanced years. After all, your malicious stalking of Brian Reay over a period spanning several years ended up with you being handed your arse on a plate, plus a criminal conviction, ordered to pay costs, and a severe tongue lashing from District Judge Simon Cooper. http://tinyurl.com/cqdfxlw You're pathetic, Evans. I pity you. Get help. -- (\_/) (='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke! (")_(") |
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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
... Yet again, out of the blue, and unrelated to any other discussion, comes a one-sided personal attack from you. Are you absolutely sure that you're not a seriously unhinged stalker? Your angry infantile response raises a few of points. Firstly that the anger demonstrates that your obsession is out of control, for you seek to dominate and you have a temper tantrum when you are unsuccessful. Secondly, you complained about what you termed as malicious crossposting by me, and yet here you are, crossposting to two other groups. Hypcoritical, or what? Thirdly, your interpretation of a random arrival time of me coming up to the office after watching TV as stalking you is a further indication of your serious mental derangement Fourthly, day after day, hour after hour even, you rain down personal attacks against me, unrelated to any other posts and topics. Is your own personal life so lacking? You would seem to be an arrant hypocrite as well as a seriously deranged stalker. Chill out, sonny. Perhaps it is you who should seek medical help? En el artículo , gareth escribió: [usual tedious repetitive effluent flushed] My post: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 20:39:06 Fat ****'s reply: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 21:34:19 What was that you were saying about stalking, hypocrite? Are you absolutely sure that you're not a seriously unhinged stalker? That's your Freudian projection at work again, OM. I must bow to your greater experience and your advanced years. After all, your malicious stalking of Brian Reay over a period spanning several years ended up with you being handed your arse on a plate, plus a criminal conviction, ordered to pay costs, and a severe tongue lashing from District Judge Simon Cooper. http://tinyurl.com/cqdfxlw You're pathetic, Evans. I pity you. Get help. -- (\_/) (='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke! (")_(") |
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In article , rickman
wrote: If Yahoo groups are taken down what are reasonable alternatives? The QRP-L mailing list uses qth.net which operates through qsl.net. Things work pretty smootlhy there. I should add that just as I read and post to rraa through a genuine news reader (MT-NewsWatcher) and not through e.g. Google Groups, i read QRP-L, the Yahoo-based KX3 gtoup, and the Yaho-based Pacific Northwest pQRP group through my regular e-mail program (Eudora) and not a web browser. In article , Brian Howie wrote: Google Groups was mentioned as an alterative. I'm not subscribed to any google groups, so I don't know how they work. I use mailing lists for the yahoo groups I use rather than the web client. I don't know if google groups operate mailing lists. Some Google groups let you elect to receive e-mail instead of using a browser. I do so with those that let me. In article , Brian Howie wrote: The problem with Usenet is you can't have a repository of files . I subscribe to the LTSpice and other yahoo groups that have colossal libraries of useful stuff. Shifting that to Google Groups would be a nightmare. Make your own file repository. Dropbox will let you have 2 GB of space free (more, if you pay for it) and you can put anything there. Most things you put there are encrypted. You can get them, presumably the Dropbox people can get them, and the CIA and the Israeli Intelligence can get anything. You can pre-encrypt before putting things into Dropbox and then that eliminated the Dropbox people from that list. You can elect to share access to a file, or to a folder full of files, in two ways. One way (not what you'd want for file repository purposes) lets you share a file or files with a select group of people -- for example a research group with members in various locations on the planet. Files shared that way can be removed, added, or modified by any member of the select group. The other way (the way you'd want for file repository purposes) does not store things in encrypted form. You can find the California URL of whatever file or folder you wish to make available and then anyone to whom you give that URL can view the file or folder, download it, but not in any way modify the version of it that's in Dropbox. Some of my hiking friends use this method of making hike photographs available to all of our group. Unlike some other photo sharing sites, your files do not get compressed and photographs do not get made blurry. You do not need to have a Dropbox account to access files or folders shared in this way -- anyone with a web browser and the URL can go there. Of course if I put something into my Dropbox account and share it this way, and then six months from now I remove it, it will then be gone (unless you've already downloaded it). Dropbox is completely platform indifferent. Things I put there using my Mac will be visible to you on your Windows or Linux computer, and vice versa, so long as we use platform-indifferent file formats such as PDF, JPEG, etc. In article , Stephen Thomas Cole wrote: The problem with a web-based solution is that it's only viable as a file repository as long as the owner keeps the URL Change that to "leaves the files in his or her Dropbox account" and hosting paid up. It's inherently constantly "at risk", is what I'm saying. No fees, unless you need more than 2 GB of space. Stuff I've put there years ago is still there. David, VE7EZM and AF7BZ -- David Ryeburn To send e-mail, change "netz" to "net" |
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Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
Brian Howie wrote: In message , Stephen Thomas Cole writes rickman wrote: On 12/7/2015 1:59 PM, Brian Howie wrote: In message , Brian Reay writes Jeff, please feel free to join RSGBTech, a Yahoo group which is specifically intended for the technical amateurs and those who wish to learn. It is moderated so the likes of Evans don't get to disrupt it. If you would like an invitation, which speeds up the joining process, drop me an Email. There is a valid address on my website. There's a rumour on the Yahoo NDB list that the Yahoo groups may be numbered. Rumour may stem from :- http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ya...SKBN0TN2IC2015 1205 #KMJHucvR0ufqhUcL.97 If Yahoo groups are taken down what are reasonable alternatives? Usenet. RFD uk.radio.amateur.rsgbtechgroup.moderated ? Sounds like a plan, I'll get drafting. The problem with Usenet is you can't have a repository of files . I subscribe to the LTSpice and other yahoo groups that have colossal libraries of useful stuff. Shifting that to Google Groups would be a nightmare. Well, couldn't a binaries group do the job? There's NSPs out there offering 10 years or so of retention, so any files dumped into, say, uk.radio.amateur.rsgbtechgroup.binaries.moderated would be available for a good long while yet. Are you absolutely sure the 10 years isn't just text? I would have thought that a long retention binary server would be a sitting duck for copyright take-downs. But most of us don't even pay to subscribe to binary servers with a few weeks' retention, nearly all of us are using cheap or free text-only servers. And the only way to keep an archive available to the majority would be to have some people cyclically reposting the archive. But it might work on that basis. The modern way is some sort of cloud service but, for practical purposes, it would have to be advertising funded. Here's a thought; we set up the ham.* hierarchy. Groups to include; ham.technical, ham.ragchew, ham.binaries. All moderated, .ragchew exceedingly light-touch, though. Invest some energy into getting ham.* carried by the major NSPs and, bosh, we've got a fail safe for when Yahoo kills Groups. Ok, you need new binary groups for archiving, but why not use the existing groups for discussion? They don't have to be in the same hierarchy. -- Roger Hayter |
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Roger Hayter wrote:
Stephen Thomas Cole wrote: Brian Howie wrote: In message , Stephen Thomas Cole writes rickman wrote: On 12/7/2015 1:59 PM, Brian Howie wrote: In message , Brian Reay writes Jeff, please feel free to join RSGBTech, a Yahoo group which is specifically intended for the technical amateurs and those who wish to learn. It is moderated so the likes of Evans don't get to disrupt it. If you would like an invitation, which speeds up the joining process, drop me an Email. There is a valid address on my website. There's a rumour on the Yahoo NDB list that the Yahoo groups may be numbered. Rumour may stem from :- http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ya...SKBN0TN2IC2015 1205 #KMJHucvR0ufqhUcL.97 If Yahoo groups are taken down what are reasonable alternatives? Usenet. RFD uk.radio.amateur.rsgbtechgroup.moderated ? Sounds like a plan, I'll get drafting. The problem with Usenet is you can't have a repository of files . I subscribe to the LTSpice and other yahoo groups that have colossal libraries of useful stuff. Shifting that to Google Groups would be a nightmare. Well, couldn't a binaries group do the job? There's NSPs out there offering 10 years or so of retention, so any files dumped into, say, uk.radio.amateur.rsgbtechgroup.binaries.moderated would be available for a good long while yet. Are you absolutely sure the 10 years isn't just text? Good point, I'm not sure but I think you're likely correct. I would have thought that a long retention binary server would be a sitting duck for copyright take-downs. But most of us don't even pay to subscribe to binary servers with a few weeks' retention, nearly all of us are using cheap or free text-only servers. And the only way to keep an archive available to the majority would be to have some people cyclically reposting the archive. But it might work on that basis. I do believe the Eternal September can be persuaded to carry specific binary groups, and ham.binaries might well be a contender; moderated, small file size, limited number of files. And ES retention is a few years or so, give or take. The modern way is some sort of cloud service but, for practical purposes, it would have to be advertising funded. Dropbox was suggested, and that's a good and credible option. Again, it would be at the vagaries of Dropbox's business plan and is by no means a permanent solution, but what is? Archive.org, perhaps? Here's a thought; we set up the ham.* hierarchy. Groups to include; ham.technical, ham.ragchew, ham.binaries. All moderated, .ragchew exceedingly light-touch, though. Invest some energy into getting ham.* carried by the major NSPs and, bosh, we've got a fail safe for when Yahoo kills Groups. Ok, you need new binary groups for archiving, but why not use the existing groups for discussion? They don't have to be in the same hierarchy. Agreed, but if you're going to the trouble of setting up ham.binaries, might as well go the whole hog. Of course, we're just shooting the breeze here. -- STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur |
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In message , Stephen Thomas Cole
writes Brian Howie wrote: In message , Stephen Thomas Cole writes rickman wrote: On 12/7/2015 1:59 PM, Brian Howie wrote: In message , Brian Reay writes Jeff, please feel free to join RSGBTech, a Yahoo group which is specifically intended for the technical amateurs and those who wish to learn. It is moderated so the likes of Evans don't get to disrupt it. If you would like an invitation, which speeds up the joining process, drop me an Email. There is a valid address on my website. There's a rumour on the Yahoo NDB list that the Yahoo groups may be numbered. Rumour may stem from :- http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ya...0TN2IC20151205 #KMJHucvR0ufqhUcL.97 If Yahoo groups are taken down what are reasonable alternatives? Usenet. RFD uk.radio.amateur.rsgbtechgroup.moderated ? Sounds like a plan, I'll get drafting. The problem with Usenet is you can't have a repository of files . I subscribe to the LTSpice and other yahoo groups that have colossal libraries of useful stuff. Shifting that to Google Groups would be a nightmare. Well, couldn't a binaries group do the job? There's NSPs out there offering 10 years or so of retention, so any files dumped into, say, uk.radio.amateur.rsgbtechgroup.binaries.moderat ed would be available for a good long while yet. I've used alt.binaries.schematic.electronics in the past. It's the only binary group that Eternal September carry. I strongly suspect a uk binary group wouldn't make it past a CVF. Brian -- Brian Howie |
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Brian Howie wrote:
In message , Stephen Thomas Cole writes Brian Howie wrote: In message , Stephen Thomas Cole writes rickman wrote: On 12/7/2015 1:59 PM, Brian Howie wrote: In message , Brian Reay writes Jeff, please feel free to join RSGBTech, a Yahoo group which is specifically intended for the technical amateurs and those who wish to learn. It is moderated so the likes of Evans don't get to disrupt it. If you would like an invitation, which speeds up the joining process, drop me an Email. There is a valid address on my website. There's a rumour on the Yahoo NDB list that the Yahoo groups may be numbered. Rumour may stem from :- http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ya...0TN2IC20151205 #KMJHucvR0ufqhUcL.97 If Yahoo groups are taken down what are reasonable alternatives? Usenet. RFD uk.radio.amateur.rsgbtechgroup.moderated ? Sounds like a plan, I'll get drafting. The problem with Usenet is you can't have a repository of files . I subscribe to the LTSpice and other yahoo groups that have colossal libraries of useful stuff. Shifting that to Google Groups would be a nightmare. Well, couldn't a binaries group do the job? There's NSPs out there offering 10 years or so of retention, so any files dumped into, say, uk.radio.amateur.rsgbtechgroup.binaries.moderated would be available for a good long while yet. I've used alt.binaries.schematic.electronics in the past. It's the only binary group that Eternal September carry. I strongly suspect a uk binary group wouldn't make it past a CVF. Particularly not a moderated one, and even more particularly not a ukra related one! I was, though, just being facetious there. IIRC, the guidelines say that binary groups are near verboten in uk.*. -- STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur |
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