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If you really must disrupt these NGs with page after page of unnecessary
and gratuitous abuse, abuse which is largely confabulated and entirely false, then please at least have the decency to acknowledge that the fault lies in your own personality for your own atrocious behaviour and your own need for attention and do not try to justify the unjustifiable by confabulating that the victim of your spleen is seeking that abuse. Amateur radio has twin traditions of gentlemanly conduct and technical motivation and you would do well to recognise that. |
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"gareth" wrote in message ... If you really must disrupt these NGs with page after page of unnecessary and gratuitous abuse, abuse which is largely confabulated and entirely false, then please at least have the decency to acknowledge that the fault lies in your own personality for your own atrocious behaviour and your own need for attention and do not try to justify the unjustifiable by confabulating that the victim of your spleen is seeking that abuse. Amateur radio has twin traditions of gentlemanly conduct and technical motivation and you would do well to recognise that. I admit it ....I wasn't beat up ... |
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On 05/12/15 12:16, Jimbo in the Borders ... wrote:
I admit it ....I wasn't beat up ... I suggest ignoring Gareth for the rest of Dec. Not crowing about shunning, or talking around him, just plain ignoring his posts. |
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"Phil Kyle" wrote in message web.com... On 05/12/15 12:16, Jimbo in the Borders ... wrote: I admit it ....I wasn't beat up ... I suggest ignoring Gareth for the rest of Dec. Not crowing about shunning, or talking around him, just plain ignoring his posts. why?... |
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"gareth" wrote in message
... If you really must disrupt these NGs with page after page of unnecessary and gratuitous abuse, abuse which is largely confabulated and entirely false, then please at least have the decency to acknowledge that the fault lies in your own personality for your own atrocious behaviour and your own need for attention and do not try to justify the unjustifiable by confabulating that the victim of your spleen is seeking that abuse. Amateur radio has twin traditions of gentlemanly conduct and technical motivation and you would do well to recognise that. Some say talking to yourself is the first sign of madness, old Bean. -- ;-) .. 73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint. .. http://turner-smith.uk |
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On 05/12/15 12:32, Jimbo in the Borders ... wrote:
"Phil Kyle" wrote in message web.com... On 05/12/15 12:16, Jimbo in the Borders ... wrote: I admit it ....I wasn't beat up ... I suggest ignoring Gareth for the rest of Dec. Not crowing about shunning, or talking around him, just plain ignoring his posts. why?... Because he's shown time and time again that he's unwilling to listen to reason, so any reply just gives him an excuse to post even more hysterical nonsense. I don't think that he's as technically inept as he like us to believe - he only posts his bizarre theories because he knows that a number of people can't resist correcting them¹ which does nothing to educate him and just gives him a reason to squeal "abuse". ¹ https://xkcd.com/386/ |
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On 05/12/15 15:07, Phil Kyle wrote:
On 05/12/15 12:32, Jimbo in the Borders ... wrote: "Phil Kyle" wrote in message web.com... On 05/12/15 12:16, Jimbo in the Borders ... wrote: I admit it ....I wasn't beat up ... I suggest ignoring Gareth for the rest of Dec. Not crowing about shunning, or talking around him, just plain ignoring his posts. why?... Because he's shown time and time again that he's unwilling to listen to reason, so any reply just gives him an excuse to post even more hysterical nonsense. I don't think that he's as technically inept as he like us to believe The evidence doesn't support that. - he only posts his bizarre theories because he knows that a number of people can't resist correcting them¹ which does nothing to educate him and just gives him a reason to squeal "abuse". ¹ https://xkcd.com/386/ He will invent abuse even if there is none. It is one of his few skills. -- Why you should not ignore animal neglect and cruelty: http://www.caar-uk.org/why.html |
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On Sat, 5 Dec 2015, Phil Kyle wrote:
On 05/12/15 12:16, Jimbo in the Borders ... wrote: I admit it ....I wasn't beat up ... I suggest ignoring Gareth for the rest of Dec. Not crowing about shunning, or talking around him, just plain ignoring his posts. YOu could just reply on topic, and then let the conversation go that way, instead of it always turning to the usual ruckus. Most threads he starts can be interpreted as on topic, and an excuse to post something on topic. If others joined in, these places would be better, but instead the usual crowd comes out and wants to "shun" him. I've never looked in the UK newsgroup, all I see is when what happens there falls out to the rec.radio.amateur.* hierarchy. Maybe there is a real grievance, maybe not, but out here, I see people more interested in attackhing him than talking about amateur radio. Michael |
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On 12/5/2015 10:40 AM, Michael Black wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2015, Phil Kyle wrote: On 05/12/15 12:16, Jimbo in the Borders ... wrote: I admit it ....I wasn't beat up ... I suggest ignoring Gareth for the rest of Dec. Not crowing about shunning, or talking around him, just plain ignoring his posts. YOu could just reply on topic, and then let the conversation go that way, instead of it always turning to the usual ruckus. Most threads he starts can be interpreted as on topic, and an excuse to post something on topic. If others joined in, these places would be better, but instead the usual crowd comes out and wants to "shun" him. I've never looked in the UK newsgroup, all I see is when what happens there falls out to the rec.radio.amateur.* hierarchy. Maybe there is a real grievance, maybe not, but out here, I see people more interested in attackhing him than talking about amateur radio. Unfortunately there are some who have legitimate gripes with Gareth. Those who he has sought to harm. They feel compelled to share their trouble in no small part to warn others how dangerous he can be. They sometimes post regardless of any bans or shuns. Then there are others who just can't resist piling on because it is fun. All in all this group has a very marginal signal to noise ratio. Sometimes the group is ok, but then a brouhaha will break out and the group is possessed by demons for a week or two. Then there is the ongoing discussion of how to deal with him. It also detracts from the small, but useful technical content of the group. So many people have opinions they wish to share about how to deal with the noise level, meanwhile adding to it just as my post has done. -- Rick |
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"Michael Black" wrote in message
news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1512051037460.16706@darkstar. example.org... Most threads he starts can be interpreted as on topic, and an excuse to post something on topic. Indeed they are just that, and also a defence by a decent right-thinking individual against the infantile and anti-social effluent that comes from so many others. I've been a subscriber to uk.radio.amateur for 21 years and am increasingly concerned that a cornerstone of amateur radio in Brit is being driven down from its position as an exemplar of gentlemanly and technical discussion, and so I try to fly the flag for those traditions. As I said elsewhere, 43 years ago I completed an electronics degree, specialising in computers and communications, and am now in a position as a retired engineer to discuss those things that puzzled me and which were never explained at the time in the rush to be able to regurgitate facts in order to pass exams. I have assumed, possibly wrongly, that the spirit of enquiry and technical curiosity was what motivated all radio amateurs. I'm a great believer that education should deliver understanding as opposed to training that only delivers knowledge. If you had a teenage daughter, which would you prefer her to receive, sex education or sex training? |
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"rickman" wrote in message
... Unfortunately there are some who have legitimate gripes with Gareth. Untrue. Those who he has sought to harm. I have never sought to harm anybody. I have, however, used the Internet to assert the right of reply when that same Internet has been used to blacken my name. They feel compelled to share their trouble in no small part to warn others how dangerous he can be. I am not dangerous. I am a peace-loving pacifist. Are you making this up as you go along? Then there are others who just can't resist piling on because it is fun. We agree on one thing Then there is the ongoing discussion of how to deal with him. No-one who is decent and proper and endeavouring to promote these NGs as technical fora needs to be "dealt with". Perahps it is a discredit to you that you have sided with the gratuitously abusive children? |
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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
... You continue to prove to be the disruptive element for which you seek to blame me. I have never, in 21 years been the originator of personal abuse on Usenet, and I am confident that whatever it is that you have stalked me for to cite below will not be origination from me, and only asserting the right of reply. En el artículo , gareth escribió: Amateur radio has twin traditions of gentlemanly conduct and technical motivation and you would do well to recognise that. Both totally lacking in your case, as a cursory examination of your posting history will demonstrate. https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=...o.amateur.ante nna/CDDAgURmCgAJ -- (\_/) (='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke! (")_(") |
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On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 15:16:15 +0000, Brian Reay wrote:
On 05/12/15 15:07, Phil Kyle wrote: On 05/12/15 12:32, Jimbo in the Borders ... wrote: "Phil Kyle" wrote in message web.com... On 05/12/15 12:16, Jimbo in the Borders ... wrote: I admit it ....I wasn't beat up ... I suggest ignoring Gareth for the rest of Dec. Not crowing about shunning, or talking around him, just plain ignoring his posts. why?... Because he's shown time and time again that he's unwilling to listen to reason, so any reply just gives him an excuse to post even more hysterical nonsense. I don't think that he's as technically inept as he like us to believe The evidence doesn't support that. I'm gald to hear that you believe Gareth listens to reason, adoesn't post nonsense. Perhaps you could follow his example. - he only posts his bizarre theories because he knows that a number of people can't resist correcting them¹ which does nothing to educate him and just gives him a reason to squeal "abuse". ¹ https://xkcd.com/386/ He will invent abuse even if there is none. It is one of his few skills. Oh and of course you never make any allegations ad hominem against any-one do you? |
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On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 16:16:55 +0000, gareth wrote:
"rickman" wrote in message ... Unfortunately there are some who have legitimate gripes with Gareth. Untrue. Those who he has sought to harm. I have never sought to harm anybody. I have, however, used the Internet to assert the right of reply when that same Internet has been used to blacken my name. It's a real travesty of justice that the judge didn't agree with you, Gareth. "This email was sent with the sole intent of getting Mr Reay removed from his position because you and you alone deemed him to be unsuitable as a teacher. In that sense this was offensive to Mr Reay. " He even went as far as suggesting that you're not of "right mind" "This is childish, humorous banter that no one in their right mind would take seriously. " How are the preparations for the appeal coming along, Gareth? You haven't mentioned it in quite some time. |
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"gareth" wrote in message
... If you really must disrupt these NGs with page after page of unnecessary and gratuitous abuse, abuse which is largely confabulated and entirely false, then please at least have the decency to acknowledge that the fault lies in your own personality for your own atrocious behaviour and your own need for attention and do not try to justify the unjustifiable by confabulating that the victim of your spleen is seeking that abuse. Amateur radio has twin traditions of gentlemanly conduct and technical motivation and you would do well to recognise that. It is to be expected that the abusers would respond to the above challenge by originating further abuse, and as such, such behaviour is a condemnation of them. What is interesting, though, is that the 8 NGs that I frequent using this ID, all attract the same Mongolian Hordes of attention-seeking abusive grown-ups who, although their bodies might be wearing long trousers, their minds still seem to be wearing babies' nappies, and yet the other 9 NGs to which I subscribe with a different ID via aioe are peaceful places of discussion with absolutely no criticism of my position, and yet. unlike those who are nonces because they change their personalities with their NGs, I behave the same in all Usenet NGs. |
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On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 17:14:22 +0000, gareth wrote:
"gareth" wrote in message ... If you really must disrupt these NGs with page after page of unnecessary and gratuitous abuse, abuse which is largely confabulated and entirely false, then please at least have the decency to acknowledge that the fault lies in your own personality for your own atrocious behaviour and your own need for attention and do not try to justify the unjustifiable by confabulating that the victim of your spleen is seeking that abuse. Amateur radio has twin traditions of gentlemanly conduct and technical motivation and you would do well to recognise that. It is to be expected that the abusers would respond to the above challenge by originating further abuse, and as such, such behaviour is a condemnation of them. What is interesting, though, is that the 8 NGs that I frequent using this ID, all attract the same Mongolian Hordes of attention-seeking abusive grown-ups who, although their bodies might be wearing long trousers, their minds still seem to be wearing babies' nappies, and yet the other 9 NGs to which I subscribe with a different ID via aioe are peaceful places of discussion with absolutely no criticism of my position, and yet. unlike those who are nonces because they change their personalities with their NGs, I behave the same in all Usenet NGs. LOL How can something as dense as you be so transparent? |
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On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 17:21:21 -0000 (UTC), Anton Deque
wrote: How can something as dense as you be so transparent? look in the mirror and find out. |
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On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 17:44:20 +0000, mw/3/qro wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 17:21:21 -0000 (UTC), Anton Deque wrote: How can something as dense as you be so transparent? look in the mirror and find out. I know you're quite thick, but you do know I don't see the same thing as you do when *I* look in a mirror? |
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Phil Kyle wrote:
On 05/12/15 12:16, Jimbo in the Borders ... wrote: I admit it ....I wasn't beat up ... I suggest ignoring Gareth for the rest of Dec. Not crowing about shunning, or talking around him, just plain ignoring his posts. Is that really Father Kylemass? |
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On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 16:12:31 -0000, "gareth"
wrote: As I said elsewhere, 43 years ago I completed an electronics degree, specialising in computers and communications, and am now in a position as a retired engineer to discuss those things that puzzled me and which were never explained ... Retired engineer with a degree? I would never have suspected that you had any level of electronic competence beyond basic dabbling, much less an engineering degree, which incidentally doesn't exist unless you obtained a general engineering degree. Which university, what degree, and in what year did you graduate (presumably 1972)? I want to verify your claims. Citing from (And that is despite that in my last 10 years of gainful employment I was designing test eqpt for mobile phone development!) 10 years designing test equipment should have given you considerable experience in radio techniques, terminology, and in particular standards. Yet, you seem to lack the relevant technical vocabulary preferring CB lingo over proper engineering terms. You've also never mentioned any testing RF testing standards. It's also odd that you claim to have worked in the industry, yet have never offered an anecdote, story, math, or calculation from your unspecified years of employment. Something is wrong here. I'm a great believer that education should deliver understanding as opposed to training that only delivers knowledge. This is not directed at you in particular, but in my never humble opinion and limited experience in edukation, the best that can be done is to overload the student with as much relevant and diverse knowledge, facts, and techniques as possible. What they do with it will be determined after they graduate and go to work. Experience is the best teacher. At the time I graduated (1971) college, teaching methods revolved around independent thinking. Collaboration was deemed cheating. Teamwork was tolerated only if there was a shortage of lab equipment. All that has fortunately changed today, but it left it's mark on me. I initially had a VERY difficult time working with other engineers and technicians simply because I had never done it in skool. If you had a teenage daughter, which would you prefer her to receive, sex education or sex training? There's not much you can tell a teenager. They already know everything. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 12:57:39 -0800, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 16:12:31 -0000, "gareth" wrote: As I said elsewhere, 43 years ago I completed an electronics degree, specialising in computers and communications, and am now in a position as a retired engineer to discuss those things that puzzled me and which were never explained ... Retired engineer with a degree? I would never have suspected that you had any level of electronic competence beyond basic dabbling, much less an engineering degree, which incidentally doesn't exist unless you obtained a general engineering degree. Which university, what degree, and in what year did you graduate (presumably 1972)? I want to verify your claims. Citing from (And that is despite that in my last 10 years of gainful employment I was designing test eqpt for mobile phone development!) 10 years designing test equipment should have given you considerable experience in radio techniques, terminology, and in particular standards. Yet, you seem to lack the relevant technical vocabulary preferring CB lingo over proper engineering terms. You've also never mentioned any testing RF testing standards. It's also odd that you claim to have worked in the industry, yet have never offered an anecdote, story, math, or calculation from your unspecified years of employment. Something is wrong here. I'm a great believer that education should deliver understanding as opposed to training that only delivers knowledge. This is not directed at you in particular, but in my never humble opinion and limited experience in edukation, the best that can be done is to overload the student with as much relevant and diverse knowledge, facts, and techniques as possible. What they do with it will be determined after they graduate and go to work. Experience is the best teacher. At the time I graduated (1971) college, teaching methods revolved around independent thinking. Collaboration was deemed cheating. Teamwork was tolerated only if there was a shortage of lab equipment. All that has fortunately changed today, but it left it's mark on me. I initially had a VERY difficult time working with other engineers and technicians simply because I had never done it in skool. If you had a teenage daughter, which would you prefer her to receive, sex education or sex training? There's not much you can tell a teenager. They already know everything. Re-posting as Gareth claims to have kill-filed you. |
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On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 21:02:33 -0000, "Jimbo in the Borders ..."
wrote: give me my cat back ..... http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/dri...at-warmer.html That's my neighbors cat and laptop. Cats like to be where it's warm. I had just tried to move her so I could use the laptop, but she had other ideas, which explains the her expression. I settled for a bad photo and found another computer. You can't have her because she's solely responsible for clearing the neighborhood of various rodents. Last week, she chased away a much larger bobcat that was trying to attack the chicken coop. Unfortunately, she's quite old and may not be around for much longer. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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"Jimbo in the Borders ..." wrote in message ... give me my cat back ..... http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/dri...at-warmer.html https://www.photobox.co.uk/my/photo?...id=20931998436 |
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"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message ... On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 21:02:33 -0000, "Jimbo in the Borders ..." wrote: give me my cat back ..... http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/dri...at-warmer.html That's my neighbors cat and laptop. Cats like to be where it's warm. I had just tried to move her so I could use the laptop, but she had other ideas, which explains the her expression. I settled for a bad photo and found another computer. You can't have her because she's solely responsible for clearing the neighborhood of various rodents. Last week, she chased away a much larger bobcat that was trying to attack the chicken coop. Unfortunately, she's quite old and may not be around for much longer. mine is the uglyist fat cat in the world ..... |
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On 5 Dec 2015 21:04:53 GMT, NoOb wrote:
Re-posting as Gareth claims to have kill-filed you. Sigh. I wish you hadn't done that. I wanted to see if he really had kill filed me. Probably not. I can't resist the temptation, and I'm fairly certain he can't either. Even the most disagreeable people sometimes say something interesting or useful. I do have some people in my kill file list, but they're all chronic spammers. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 13:18:06 -0800, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On 5 Dec 2015 21:04:53 GMT, NoOb wrote: Re-posting as Gareth claims to have kill-filed you. Sigh. I wish you hadn't done that. I wanted to see if he really had kill filed me. Probably not. I can't resist the temptation, and I'm fairly certain he can't either. Even the most disagreeable people sometimes say something interesting or useful. I do have some people in my kill file list, but they're all chronic spammers. Oh ye of little faith. I haven't spoiled the test, only doubled it. |
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On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 12:30:27 +0000, Phil Kyle wrote:
On 05/12/15 12:16, Jimbo in the Borders ... wrote: I admit it ....I wasn't beat up ... I suggest ignoring Gareth for the rest of Dec. Not crowing about shunning, or talking around him, just plain ignoring his posts. December? When will the otherwise smart people here stop feeding Evens by letting him draw them into useless discussions designed to illicit responses? I long ago kill filed him, why don't others do the same? He clearly has nothing to contribute to rra.antenna, kill filing, or simply ignoring him will go a long way to eliminating the problem troll. Enough is enough already. Bob KB2ZGN |
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At 21:14:53 on Sat, 5 Dec 2015, Jimbo in the Borders ...
wrote in : "Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 21:02:33 -0000, "Jimbo in the Borders ..." wrote: give me my cat back ..... http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/dri...at-warmer.html That's my neighbors cat and laptop. Cats like to be where it's warm. I had just tried to move her so I could use the laptop, but she had other ideas, which explains the her expression. I settled for a bad photo and found another computer. You can't have her because she's solely responsible for clearing the neighborhood of various rodents. Last week, she chased away a much larger bobcat that was trying to attack the chicken coop. Unfortunately, she's quite old and may not be around for much longer. mine is the uglyist fat cat in the world ..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytQehQJXpow -- Molly - I don't speak for the Committee. I speak for me. Nature loves variety. Unfortunately, society hates it. (Milton Diamond Ph.D.) My Reply-To address *is* valid, though may not be so for ever. |
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"Bob" wrote in message
... On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 12:30:27 +0000, Phil Kyle wrote: On 05/12/15 12:16, Jimbo in the Borders ... wrote: I admit it ....I wasn't beat up ... I suggest ignoring Gareth for the rest of Dec. Not crowing about shunning, or talking around him, just plain ignoring his posts. December? When will the otherwise smart people here stop feeding Evens by letting him draw them into useless discussions designed to illicit responses? I long ago kill filed him, why don't others do the same? He clearly has nothing to contribute to rra.antenna, kill filing, or simply ignoring him will go a long way to eliminating the problem troll. Enough is enough already. Bob KB2ZGN ITYM "elicit", and I am sad to see that you are another who has decided to side with the gratuitous abusers. As always, there is none so blind as he who will not see. From your own gratuitous abuse above, I take it that you are a CBer-masquerading-as-a-radio-ham, and to help you to understand the difference, I append my FAQ ... -----ooooo----- Q. What is Ham Radio? A. Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who are interested in the science of radio wave propagation and who are also interested in the way that their radios function. It has a long-standing tradition of providing a source of engineers who are born naturals. Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life fascination with all things technical and gives an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in! This excitement causes a wish to share the experience with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio. Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters, the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams are qualified to design, build and then operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this with gusto, and also repair and modify their own equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort to gain, and one to be jealously guarded. The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with the latter that communication with like-minded technically motivated people takes off. The scope for technical development grows with the years and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal of excitement in the areas of computer programming to be learnt and applied. The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing, competitions and fox-hunts. -----ooooo---- However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a desirable thing to have that there are large numbers of people who wish to be thought of as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing of the kind! Usually such people are a variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their radios off the shelf and send them back to be repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how their radios work inside and have no wish to find out; they are free with rather silly personal insults. -----ooooo----- One infallible way to disambiguate the CB Radio Hobbyist from the _REAL_ Radio Ham is to solicit their view of the difference between CB Radio and Ham Radio. A Radio Ham will perceive Ham Radio to be a technical pursuit and will perceive CB Radio to be a social communications facility no different in essence to a land-line telephone or a GSM mobile in the hands of a 6-year-old. Thus a Radio Ham could also use a CB set safe in the knowledge that such use says no more about him than having a land-line telephone, whilst continuing to regard Ham Radio as a separate technical pursuit. A CB Radio hobbyist, on the other hand, sees no difference between Ham Radio and CB Radio. To him, they are sisters-under-the-skin. Wrongly, the CB Radio Hobbyist then tries to classify himself as the equal of the Radio Ham when, in fact, he is nothing of the kind. Ham Radio is not CB Radio and has no common ground with it! Ham Radio is _THE_ technical pursuit for gentlemen; CB Radio is the name for the operating hobby for those who buy their rigs and equipment off the shelf. -----ooooo----- If you are the sort of person who is motivated by a technical interest in how things work; if you took apart malfunctioning clocks, toasters and the like and put them right despite never having seen them working, then a Ham Radio licence is your traditional route! There has never been a shortage of such people, and those who gravitate towards such an interest have always been welcomed into our shacks and their interests fostered. There is not today, nor has there ever been, a need to go out and encourage and press children, children who have never expressed an interest in Ham Radio, to come into our shacks. Such an activity should cause eyebrows to be raised - what normal well-adjusted adults seek the social acquaintance of children?! -----ooooo----- Please remember that this FAQ is a _POSITIVE EXHORTATION_ to you to exert yourselves to join our fraternity! |
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On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 23:42:55 -0000, "gareth"
wrote: From your own gratuitous abuse above, I take it that you are a CBer-masquerading-as-a-radio-ham, and to help you to understand the difference, I append my FAQ ... So much for burning bridges behind you. I suggest you not set fire to the bridge that you're standing upon. I got my start in radio as a CB operator. Most of my ham radio friends in high skool were also CB operators. That's because we could afford a CB radio or the 1960's, but not ham radios of the day. I tried to build my own, but lacked the time and expertise. I settled for converting old mobile FM radios and repeaters into a workable communications system. Circa 1965: http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/Old%20Repeaters/slides/wb6eep-01.html Had it not been for CB, I would not have been able to get a start in radio of any type. More recently, some of the best volunteers for events and emergency operations came from the CB sector. When looking in the mirror, don't assume that you're seeing the entire world. Ham radio is a very big hobby, with room for contesting, DX, experimentation, EME, antennas, chatting, emergency services, public service, message passing, and whatever else you can devise within the rules and regulations. Each area comes and goes as the times change. Were ham radio limited to being only a technical hobby, it would have died long ago. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On 12/5/2015 4:33 PM, Bob wrote:
On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 12:30:27 +0000, Phil Kyle wrote: On 05/12/15 12:16, Jimbo in the Borders ... wrote: I admit it ....I wasn't beat up ... I suggest ignoring Gareth for the rest of Dec. Not crowing about shunning, or talking around him, just plain ignoring his posts. December? When will the otherwise smart people here stop feeding Evens by letting him draw them into useless discussions designed to illicit responses? I long ago kill filed him, why don't others do the same? He clearly has nothing to contribute to rra.antenna, kill filing, or simply ignoring him will go a long way to eliminating the problem troll. Enough is enough already. I've kill filed him and a few others who seem to only post abuse directed toward him. I'm on the verge of adding Jeff. I have tried the same experiment he is conducting. The difference is I saw the futility of it in a few iterations. Even though Jeff is kill filed by him Jeff continues to reply to him with posts that are exceedingly more annoying. This group has really gone to the dogs. One that was much worse was a physics group where I am pretty sure everyone posting is insane. -- Rick |
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En el artículo , Jeff
Liebermann escribió: Hopefully, Gareth will have imploded by then. Unfortunately, he keeps coming back like a bad smell once he thinks the coast is clear. He's been at this since 1997, you know. The man is quite clearly unhinged. Only a stake through the heart and burying face-down in a lead-lined coffin will suffice. -- (\_/) (='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke! (")_(") |
Disrupting Usenet NGs
En el artículo , Anton Deque
escribió: On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 17:14:22 +0000, gareth wrote: , and yet the other 9 NGs to which I subscribe with a different ID via aioe Quoth Gareth Alun Evans in Message-ID: k: "Possibly, but not as sad as those who hide behind a pseudonym." QED. -- (\_/) (='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke! (")_(") |
Disrupting Usenet NGs
"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
... It is unclear from what you post below as to whether you agree or disagree with the suggestion that you are engaged in a one-sided stalking of me? I do not see that using my school nickname is hiding? Quoth Gareth Alun Evans in Message-ID: k: "Possibly, but not as sad as those who hide behind a pseudonym." QED. |
Disrupting Usenet NGs
En el artículo , gareth
escribió: If you had a teenage daughter, which would you prefer her to receive, sex education or sex training? You disgusting old pervert. Just shows how your mind works. Bet you'd like to do the sex training yourself, on a one-to-one basis, hm? And you have the nerve to call others a danger to children in malicious poison pen emails to their employers. -- (\_/) (='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke! (")_(") |
Disrupting Usenet NGs
"gareth" wrote:
"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message ... It is unclear from what you post below as to whether you agree or disagree with the suggestion that you are engaged in a one-sided stalking of me? I do not see that using my school nickname is hiding? You're posting as "****ty Pants No Mates"? -- STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur |
Disrupting Usenet NGs
En el artículo , Mike Tomlinson
escribió: Bet you'd like to do the sex training yourself, on a one-to-one basis, hm? Always assuming you could sort out that little problem you mentioned a while back. What was it again? Ah yes. You're, um, unable to "rise to the occasion". Lol! Pervert. -- (\_/) (='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke! (")_(") |
Disrupting Usenet NGs
On Sun, 6 Dec 2015 12:57:33 +0000, Brian Reay wrote:
Jeff, please feel free to join RSGBTech, a Yahoo group which is specifically intended for the technical amateurs and those who wish to learn. It is moderated so the likes of Evans don't get to disrupt it. Thank you, but no. I'm currently subscribed to 29 Yahoo groups. Ever since Yahoo "updated" their software about 2 years ago, I've been having difficulties with indexing and searches, disappearing messages, and missing files. I'm not the only one as I sometimes receive email from various admins warning of message and file corruption. Coupled with Yahoo's persistent demands for my cell phone number, I really don't want to expand my use of Yahoo Groups. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
Disrupting Usenet NGs
"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
... En el artículo , gareth escribió: If you had a teenage daughter, which would you prefer her to receive, sex education or sex training? You disgusting old pervert. Just shows how your mind works. Bet you'd like to do the sex training yourself, on a one-to-one basis, hm? And you have the nerve to call others a danger to children in malicious poison pen emails to their employers. Maybe this is another reason why it's fortunate that Beanie has never fathered any sprogs, (as far as we Know) -- ;-) .. 73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint. .. http://turner-smith.uk |
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