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Old September 19th 04, 10:12 PM
Ian Jackson
 
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In message Wyn1d.43162$Ka6.15258@okepread03, Jack Painter
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"see sea oh ecks at you aitch see dot comm"
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Jack Painter wrote:
We who speak the most English make the rules.


It has always been "month-day-year" in the United States of America.


Oh yes - we forgot that there are more American English speakers in
the world than English speakers.

Not!
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Chris Cox, N0UK/G4JEC NIC Handle: CC345


In fact, there are few countries, and Britain is definitely not one of them,
that teach or speak proper English. It is a language butchered in
pronounciation by all that England influenced, and was only corrected in
teaching and pronounciation in America. We speak English, not an adaptation
of it. If your understanding of this fact is lacking, there are many places
for you to correct your deficiency, but it will not be here.

73,

Jack



There ain't no word 'pronounciation' - even in American.
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Old September 19th 04, 10:15 PM
Ian Jackson
 
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In message , Peter
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:38:15 -0400, "Jack Painter"
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We speak English, not an adaptation
of it


I beg to differ!

I don't think the word "Hi" is English yet it's the ubiquitous
greeting in the US (and unfortunately over here in the UK also).
Why do Americans write "meter" for "metre", " thru" for "through",
"dove" for "dived" , "I've gotten" for " I've got", etc, etc?
Somehow I don't think the Pilgrim Fathers brought all that over from
the Old Country!

Americans speak American and we speak English ... 'nuff said!

Peter, G3PHO


'Hi' is Scandinavian.
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Old September 20th 04, 12:33 AM
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We speak English, not an adaptation
of it



I beg to differ!


Americans speak American and we speak English ... 'nuff said!

Peter, G3PHO


'Corse, IF you know MORSE (both American and Continental), you would
realize that the Ham "HI" is a contraction from the MORSE for "HEE"
..... .. from .... . . ! As is much of morse! Like e s for "and",
the origination for that was the AMERICAN MORSE sign for the symbol "&" !
And much more shorthand in it from a time that messages were charged for
by the LETTER, or WORD ! and for your info, two shortest messages were
(from a correspondant wanting to know about the sale of his book/article, )
sent the message "?" (without the quotes)! The reply (from the publisher)
was "!" (again without the quotes)!! As info, Jim NN7K
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Old September 20th 04, 01:02 AM
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:33:37 GMT, "NN7Kex(NOSPAM)k7zfg"
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two shortest messages were
(from a correspondant wanting to know about the sale of his book/article, )
sent the message "?" (without the quotes)! The reply (from the publisher)
was "!" (again without the quotes)!


Hi Jim,

Dumas.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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Old September 20th 04, 02:30 PM
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"Ian Jackson" wrote

Jack Painter writes
In fact, there are few countries, and Britain is definitely not one of

them,
that teach or speak proper English. It is a language butchered in
pronounciation by all that England influenced, and was only corrected in
teaching and pronounciation in America. We speak English, not an

adaptation
of it. If your understanding of this fact is lacking, there are many

places
for you to correct your deficiency, but it will not be here.

73,

Jack


There ain't no word 'pronounciation' - even in American.
Ian.
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A product of your country's public school system , eh?

Jack




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Old September 20th 04, 05:00 PM
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You omitted a comma.

ITYM, "However, I doubt if many
of their inmates pronounce, 'pronunciation' correctly.".

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
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However, I doubt if many
of their inmates pronounce 'pronunciation' correctly.



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Old September 20th 04, 05:49 PM
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No I didn't. Why would you want to put a comma between the verb and the
object? Absolute twaddle!
And stop top posting!
Ian.

In message , Airy R. Bean
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You omitted a comma.

ITYM, "However, I doubt if many
of their inmates pronounce, 'pronunciation' correctly.".

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
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However, I doubt if many
of their inmates pronounce 'pronunciation' correctly.




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Old September 20th 04, 06:12 PM
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:00:40 +0100, "Airy R. Bean"
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You omitted a comma.
ITYM, "However, I doubt if many of their inmates pronounce, 'pronunciation' correctly.".

This addition suffers from the misapplication of a comma as a
substitute for the pause in speech - that, or it is entirely out of
place. Either way its addition is in error. The redundant period at
the end is also in error. The comma after the ITYM is awkward at
best.

Hi OM,

The "however" is set off from the rest of the sentence because it is a
transitional adverb. Contemporary usage would allow it to stand or
not be used since the sentence is short. By adding the second comma,
you render " I doubt if many of their inmates pronounce" as a
non-restrictive clause. This means that its absence would not alter
the sense of the sentence. This is obviously not the case above.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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Old September 20th 04, 06:21 PM
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In some ways, it's a pity that english is becoming the world language.

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Old September 20th 04, 06:31 PM
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:21:37 -0500, "Dave VanHorn"
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In some ways, it's a pity that english is becoming the world language.


Hi Dave,

The greater pity will come when it is not, and a nation of English
speaking Americans are the step-and-fetchits working for the Chinese
as waiters, launderers or field slaves. Coming as soon as Nov. 2.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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