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Old January 5th 05, 04:26 AM
Bruce Wilson
 
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Hi Gang.

Sometime in the distant past (in the 50's) my property was owned by a ham.
He put in two poles, six inch pipes 50 feet high and 170 feet apart, to fly
an antenna. They once had cables for hoisting the wire to the top, much like
a flagpole, but they have weathered and fallen. There are pulleys at the
top, and stanchions (where you tie the rope off) about midway down the pole.

I need to do two things:

Get the ropes back in place, and
Lower the stanchions to a more usable level.

And I have no idea how to do the former. How do I get ropes back on those
pulleys? Are there flagpole-riggers who shimmy up the poles, or do I hire
some brave local kid to risk his neck in the attempt? I really want to get a
proper antenna up there, and don't mind paying someone who does this, I just
don't know who to call.

Bruce Wilson KD7VEM
http://wilson.dynu.net


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Old January 5th 05, 04:48 AM
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Bruce Wilson wrote:

Hi Gang.

Sometime in the distant past (in the 50's) my property was owned by a ham.
He put in two poles, six inch pipes 50 feet high and 170 feet apart, to fly
an antenna. They once had cables for hoisting the wire to the top, much like
a flagpole, but they have weathered and fallen. There are pulleys at the
top, and stanchions (where you tie the rope off) about midway down the pole.

I need to do two things:

Get the ropes back in place, and
Lower the stanchions to a more usable level.

And I have no idea how to do the former. How do I get ropes back on those
pulleys? Are there flagpole-riggers who shimmy up the poles, or do I hire
some brave local kid to risk his neck in the attempt? I really want to get a
proper antenna up there, and don't mind paying someone who does this, I just
don't know who to call.

Bruce Wilson KD7VEM
http://wilson.dynu.net


If I were going to have some kid shinny up the pole I'd have some friends
at the base with some form of guys which you cold slide up the pipe as
he climbs for stability. You might want to set one set of guys about
half way up. Assuming the poles are steel, and in good condition, you can
remove the guys as he comes back down.
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Old January 5th 05, 05:02 AM
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Hire somebody with a cherry picker? An arborist might be able to point
you in the right direction.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Bruce Wilson wrote:
. . .
And I have no idea how to do the former. How do I get ropes back on those
pulleys? Are there flagpole-riggers who shimmy up the poles, or do I hire
some brave local kid to risk his neck in the attempt? I really want to get a
proper antenna up there, and don't mind paying someone who does this, I just
don't know who to call.

Bruce Wilson KD7VEM
http://wilson.dynu.net


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Old January 5th 05, 12:15 PM
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"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message
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Hire somebody with a cherry picker? An arborist might be able to point you
in the right direction.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL


I also agree with cherry picker idea. If you are comfortable going up in
them, you can even rent one of these and do the work yourself. Of course it
is still always wise to have a safety man on the ground if you go up
yourself. One of our local hams rents one whenever he needs antenna work
done and gets one of the club members to go up in it as he is way to hefty
to do this work.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Bruce Wilson wrote:
. . .
And I have no idea how to do the former. How do I get ropes back on those
pulleys? Are there flagpole-riggers who shimmy up the poles, or do I hire
some brave local kid to risk his neck in the attempt? I really want to
get a proper antenna up there, and don't mind paying someone who does
this, I just don't know who to call.

Bruce Wilson KD7VEM
http://wilson.dynu.net


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Old January 5th 05, 02:21 PM
David G. Nagel
 
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Dee Flint wrote:

"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message
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Hire somebody with a cherry picker? An arborist might be able to point you
in the right direction.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL



I also agree with cherry picker idea. If you are comfortable going up in
them, you can even rent one of these and do the work yourself. Of course it
is still always wise to have a safety man on the ground if you go up
yourself. One of our local hams rents one whenever he needs antenna work
done and gets one of the club members to go up in it as he is way to hefty
to do this work.

Current Federal requirements are for a 3 man crew when working above
ground. Two up one down.

Dave WD9BDZ



Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Bruce Wilson wrote:

. . .
And I have no idea how to do the former. How do I get ropes back on those
pulleys? Are there flagpole-riggers who shimmy up the poles, or do I hire
some brave local kid to risk his neck in the attempt? I really want to
get a proper antenna up there, and don't mind paying someone who does
this, I just don't know who to call.

Bruce Wilson KD7VEM
http://wilson.dynu.net





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Old January 5th 05, 03:39 PM
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On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 08:21:03 -0600, David G. Nagel wrote:
Dee Flint wrote:
"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message
...

Hire somebody with a cherry picker? An arborist might be able to point you
in the right direction.


I also agree with cherry picker idea. If you are comfortable going up in
them, you can even rent one of these and do the work yourself. Of course it
is still always wise to have a safety man on the ground if you go up
yourself. One of our local hams rents one whenever he needs antenna work
done and gets one of the club members to go up in it as he is way to hefty
to do this work.


Current Federal requirements are for a 3 man crew when working above
ground. Two up one down.


This ain't a federal job.

rant
If it were, you'd have to file an Enviromental Imapct Statement before
ever modifying the existing 'structures, you'd have to file a Non-
Discrimination Certificate, you'd need to hire a Saftey Compliance
Office, you'd need to do Wetlands Mitigation, you'd need a review
by The Army Corps of Engineers, you'd be required to do a floodplain
study, you'd have to file I-9 forms for each member of the 3-man crew,
and for some vacuous reasoning du jour, you'd need to be strip-searched
by The Department of Homeland Hysteria, etc., u.s.w.

Thank gawd it ain't a federal job.
/rant

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Old January 5th 05, 10:17 AM
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Hi Gang.

Sometime in the distant past (in the 50's) my property was owned by a ham.
He put in two poles, six inch pipes 50 feet high and 170 feet apart, to
fly an antenna. They once had cables for hoisting the wire to the top,
much like a flagpole, but they have weathered and fallen. There are
pulleys at the top, and stanchions (where you tie the rope off) about
midway down the pole.

I need to do two things:

Get the ropes back in place, and
Lower the stanchions to a more usable level.

And I have no idea how to do the former. How do I get ropes back on those
pulleys? Are there flagpole-riggers who shimmy up the poles, or do I hire
some brave local kid to risk his neck in the attempt? I really want to get
a proper antenna up there, and don't mind paying someone who does this, I
just don't know who to call.

Bruce Wilson KD7VEM
http://wilson.dynu.net



Get a firm that cuts down trees from the top using a cherry picker. In NH we
have such firms that have
105 foot cherry pickers for taking down very large trees. 50 feet out to be
a snap.
Ed, N5EI




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Old January 5th 05, 03:53 PM
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Hi Bruce

Are you familiar with the way Pony Clamps work?

It would save a lot of time in telling you how to make a pair of metal
pole climbing dogs.

Mine are just twin steel plates with an angle iron welded under them
for added support. 1/2 way open they form what looks like a heart,
closed they form a hole shaped like an elipse.
You open them and slip them around the pole and close them, one on
each side. There is a small iron strap the toe of your shoe slips
under. As you lift your foot, you lift the dog, keeping it level.
Before you put your weight on it, it tilts downward slightly, locking
it to the pole. Once it's seated firmly you lift the other foot,
sliding that dog upward keeping it horizontal until it touches the
first then let it tilt downward slightly, locking it to the pole.
Keep repeating this process until you get to the height you want.
Coming down works the same way, lift your foot to unlock it, hold it
horizontal and move it back down the pole, locking it each step of the
way. It locks automatically and easily to the pole.

There is only one axle bolt in each unit that passes through the angle
iron. This allows the top sheet of steel to swing open and shut for
installing it on the pole. Being I'm the nervous type, I drilled two
holes on the outbound side and use a short bungee cord to make sure it
stays shut. But, once around the pole, the heart shape keeps it shut.
Mine is sized for 3-1/2 inch OD down to 2-1/2 inch OD poles.
They CANNOT be used on push-poles or thinwalled pipe needless to say.

TTUL
Gary

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