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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 07:33:04 GMT, Richard Clark
wrote: .....snip Reference Data for Radio Engineers, "Mismatch and Transducer Loss," "One End Mismatched," pg. 22-12: Transducer Loss = A0 + 10 · log (Pm/P) decibels where A0 = normal attenuation of the line Pm = power that would be delivered were system matched P = power delivered to the load Of particular note is that this is one of my references as to the nature of Source Z which is often neglected in academic treatments with the presumption that the engineer has already been schooled in the nature of Real sources (this may shock some complaisant readers here). However, this citation offers that explicit lesson in figure 10 and makes use of this commonplace characteristic in illustrations of Mismatch Uncertainty. They go as far as to explicitly offer a section entitled "Generator and Load Mismatched." You may wish to review this treatment as it offers the math that would present the most loss available in a line, above and beyond the typical charts offered for line loss (which are confined to both ends being matched). Dear Richard, I'm finally ready to comment on the above - it is my great fortune to be blessed with copies of both the Fourth and Fifth Editions of the ITT Handbook. I studied over the first 13 pages of Chapter 22 and found that, just as Wes said, it's entirely the work of MacAlpine as published in 1953. I went over Equations (1) through (4) in the Mismatch section very carefully and found no heartburn with anything in that section. This is NOT to say that I LIKE it, but I do understand it and have no problem with the math model and the figures. My problems with the two mismatch topics is simply that I just don't like to call it a loss when energy that COULD have been delivered to the load does NOT get delivered to the load as a result of mismatch. For me, lost energy in a transmission line problem is energy actually lost in the transmission line, not energy that is being lost elsewhere as a result of the transmission line not being matched properly. I realize that I'm probably alone in that thinking, but I like to feel that such terms as efficiency and losses should be associated strongly with the item under evaluation, namely the transmission line, and not the ancillary equipment which feed it or terminate it. Those items get their own hearings relative to efficiency and losses and those evaluations do not require the presence of the transmission line. In fact, those items are usually evaluated as to their performance in ways that do not in any way relate to how well some transmission line is or is not working. However, this is not the nub of the problem that I was encountering - a problem which has now been partly resolved. At least I think I have a far, far better understanding of the problem now than I had a few days ago. The problem centers on the Additional Losses Due to SWR and how to model them. Since it is, perhaps, more appropriate to continue that topic under the responses from Wes, I will not go into it here. I want to thank you and Wes, both, for leading me to Chapter 22 - it is much more readable than MacAlpine's original paper. Bob, W9DMK, Dahlgren, VA http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk |
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