LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #6   Report Post  
Old January 30th 19, 05:10 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.moderated
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Sep 2013
Posts: 62
Default [QRZ] Help me understand magloop vs. G5rv jr. noise difference(pt. II)

On 1/29/19 5:47 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Since all the books that you and I have mentioned are from the 1950's
and 60's, and well before small magnetic loop antenna became popular,
I suspect the absence of detailed models and studies are
understandable. Also, the magnetic loop antenna is rather impractical
for anything other than amateur radio use because of the need to
retune the antenna with even the slightest change in frequency. With
commercial use limited or non-existent, I wouldn't expect to see much
funded research into their characteristics.



Hello, and theory (established via experiments with repeatable results)
and applied math don't change, regardless of the decade. The point here
is that AFAIK only hams use the adjective "magnetic" to describe some
sort of property that the antennas covered in those textbooks don't
engender. I've posted before on this subject. The term "magnetic" adds
nothing to describing the geometry or operation of a loop antenna. And
it can add to the confusion if it implies there are additional types of
loops ("electric loops"?) or that a magnet is a component of the antenna.

My own take on all this is that it got started since a closed loop/coil
of wire will experience an induced current when in the presence of a
time-varying magnetic field. No problem here. This is a close-in
(non-radiating) condition such as we would have with coupled loops/coils
inside a power transformer. The RF equivalent would be a having a loop
or straight wire in the near (induction) field of a transmitting antenna.

Now assume that coil/loop is in the radiating (far) field of a
transmitter and performing as a receiving antenna. A distance of
several wavelengths or more will ensure that. In that scenario the loop
is responding to a propagating electromagnetic (EM) field. So is the
loop responding to the magnetic (H) or electric (E) field of an EM wave?
Despite what some folks believe, EM theory says you can't have a
propagating E field without an H field component or vice-versa.
Sincerely, and 73s from N4GGO,

--
J. B. Wood e-mail:

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
MagLoop vs. Magloop rickman Antenna 2 November 8th 15 04:17 AM
Software for VHF/UHF Magloop? Lee Antenna 0 November 8th 07 08:20 AM
Magloop Height? Lee Antenna 12 May 13th 06 06:16 AM
magloop antenna... Jean-Guy Antenna 4 May 30th 04 01:56 AM
Magloop woes Mike Coslo Antenna 13 November 11th 03 11:49 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:35 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 RadioBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Radio"

 

Copyright © 2017