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I just realized, on that website it does not say the spacing between
elements, only the length of the elements. How would I find out that?

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Old December 22nd 04, 03:06 PM
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I just realized, on that website it does not say the spacing between
elements, only the length of the elements. How would I find out that?


22/freq (in Mhz)

See: http://www.hamuniverse.com/jpole.html

Roy has pointed out that a Balun is a good idea. The above site recommends
at least 4 coils of feedline at the feedpoint as an RF choke. I used neither
and had phenomenal "luck" with a 60' feedline and later added full lightning
protection with no detectable change in the prop.

Jack Painter
Virginia Beach VA


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Old December 22nd 04, 06:57 PM
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What are those red things on the top? They look like wire twisters.

I just realized, on that website it does not say the spacing between
elements, only the length of the elements. How would I find out that?


The little red things on top are just plastic caps.

Element spacing & element size are critical.
Check the "Parts Catalog" & the "Instructions"
for element spacing. It's all there, even a photo of the bracket.

If you change the diameter of the elements, you will need to start
over with the spacing to tune the antenna.

As for Stainless Steel, don't bother, been there, done that.
Tried making some out of Stainless Steel CB Whips.
A very noticeable difference in performance.

You really want to build your own ?
Buy one from Arrow Antenna, copy it,
then send it back for a refund. Only cost you for shipping.
Got to warn you though, I have not got one back yet.

73 Al Lowe N0IMW
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N0IMW wrote:
What are those red things on the top? They look like wire twisters.


I just realized, on that website it does not say the spacing between
elements, only the length of the elements. How would I find out

that?

The little red things on top are just plastic caps.

Element spacing & element size are critical.
Check the "Parts Catalog" & the "Instructions"
for element spacing. It's all there, even a photo of the bracket.

If you change the diameter of the elements, you will need to start
over with the spacing to tune the antenna.

As for Stainless Steel, don't bother, been there, done that.
Tried making some out of Stainless Steel CB Whips.
A very noticeable difference in performance.

You really want to build your own ?
Buy one from Arrow Antenna, copy it,
then send it back for a refund. Only cost you for shipping.
Got to warn you though, I have not got one back yet.

73 Al Lowe N0IMW
A HREF="http://ArrowAntennas.com/"ArrowAntennas.com/A
Arrow Antenna



Why would stainless steel provide different performance? Can you use
regular mild steel for the angle iron bracket? Maybe paint it so it
would not rust?

If you do change the element size, how do you determine the proper
spacing?

I appreciate your help! I like the design of the antenna and its
simplicity.

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Just a suggetion -- go to a swap meet and buy your antennas for less than
the materials to build one

Or here is the scoop on yagi antenna design including a design program
http://www.hamuniverse.com/yagibasics.html

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Old December 23rd 04, 08:37 AM
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If you do change the element size, how do you determine the proper
spacing?

I appreciate your help! I like the design of the antenna and its
simplicity.


When you earlier asked this question I answered it. The specific dimensions
are ALL provided in my previous post/reply to you. Here is is again!

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I just realized, on that website it does not say the spacing between
elements, only the length of the elements. How would I find out that?


22/freq (in Mhz)

See:
http://www.hamuniverse.com/jpole.html

73,
Jack


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Old December 23rd 04, 06:41 PM
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Why would stainless steel provide different performance? Can you use
regular mild steel for the angle iron bracket? Maybe paint it so it
would not rust?

If you do change the element size, how do you determine the proper
spacing?

I appreciate your help! I like the design of the antenna and its
simplicity.


At one time I had a chance to acquire a large number of Stainless Steel CB
whips, cheaper than the cost of aluminum.
I used 8 of them to make a 4 element Yagi just like our regular 146-4S.
It works, SWR is low, but it just does not work as well as the aluminum
elements.
Used a couple to make an OSJ, because of the smaller diameter, the spacing is
closer to get it to match But like I said there was a very noticeable drop in
performance. I really wanted it to work, would have been a good market for
them for mounting on 18 wheelers.
(Don't ask, I won't sell ether of them.)

As for making the bracket out of steel, Why ? it's harder to drill, harder to
tap. The 3/16" stress aluminum angle is a lot stronger than it needs to be.

As for determining the proper spacing, if you know the exact impedance
of the 1/2 wave, there is a formula for figuring the diameter & spacing.
Easier to just adjust the spacing for lowest SWR.

Unlike other types of J-Poles the OSJ does Not need a balun or choke.
It was designed for direct connect to coax.

73 Al Lowe N0IMW
Arrow Antenna
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