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Old July 15th 03, 07:40 PM
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The most simple example of a constant-resistance network is a capacitor
in
series with a resistor, both in parallel with an inductor in series with

a
resistor. When all 4 components have the same value in ohms (R) then the
input resistance is a constant resistance R from DC to infinity.
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Reg, G4FGQ


Since the reactive components change reactance with frequency, Reg's

network
may be a little hard to realize in practice. Try making the inductance

equal
to
R^2*C Reg. You might have better luck. You also might want to review
Everitt's
take on this subject, starting on page 284 of the second edition of his

book,
_Communication Engineering_. His ideas are quite enlightening.

73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

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Tom, sorry to be so disappointing. My Little formula for calculating L and
C for the constant resistance network is quite correct.

When designing constant-resistance networks it is convenient to have a
design-frequency.

It can be the frequency at which I said Xc = Xl = R ohms.

So we can now calculate both L and C without prior knowledge of either of
them. After a little arithmetic it will be quite enlightening to discover ,
as you say, that L = C*R^2, but which is a less-convenient starting point.

In addition to a design frequency there can also be a design time constant.
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Reg, G4FGQ


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Old July 15th 03, 09:36 PM
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Reg wrote,

Tom, sorry to be so disappointing. My Little formula for calculating L and
C for the constant resistance network is quite correct.


Yes, of course, but misleading because it implies that all four components
have to have the "same value in ohms (R)." In fact, the input resistance will
be the same no matter what the value of the reactive components as long as
they obey the requirement that L/C = R^2.


When designing constant-resistance networks it is convenient to have a
design-frequency.


Convenient, but not necessary to show that constant resistance networks exist.



It can be the frequency at which I said Xc = Xl = R ohms.


It can, indeed, or any other frequency for that matter.


So we can now calculate both L and C without prior knowledge of either of
them. After a little arithmetic it will be quite enlightening to discover ,
as you say, that L = C*R^2, but which is a less-convenient starting point.


Perfectly true, but what are you ultimately after?


In addition to a design frequency there can also be a design time constant.


Indeed.

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Reg, G4FGQ


Tom Donaly, KA6RUH



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Old July 15th 03, 10:34 PM
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Perfectly true, but what are you ultimately after?

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Beyond getting back to the subject matter - nothing!


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Old July 17th 03, 07:48 PM
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Jack, K9CUN wrote:
"I have referred to my various engineering texts on antennas and
transmission lines and can not find any discussion of antenna "vigor"."

I did not copy my statement. Vigor is defined in my "American College
Dictionary as: "1. active strength or force---".

A rod in free space becomes excited and accepts energy, which it must
re-radiate, when it is swept by a passing wave of its resonant
frequency. Its first resonance is near a 1/2-wavelength. At frequencies
slightly off-resonance, little current flows in the rod due to the
opposition of its reactance.

You may have seen a mechanical analogy in the vibrating reed frequency
meter.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

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Old July 18th 03, 07:42 PM
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Vigor is defined in my "American College
Dictionary as: "1. active strength or force---"

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What is the "strength" of an antenna?

What is the "force" of an antenna?

Is it the same as the "oomph"?

73 de Jack, K9CUN


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Old July 20th 03, 12:58 AM
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Units of force do not include Watts.

Units of force are such things as Newtons, dynes, poundals, pounds, etc.

Jack (who exerts a force of many pounds on this chair)

73
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Old July 17th 03, 10:08 PM
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I have referred to my various engineering texts on antennas ans transmission
lines and can not find any discussion of antenna "vigor".

Jack K9CUN



It is Viagora, it makes all antennas resonanted and transmission lines SWRless.
Add some Fractals, CFAs, EH?

Bada BUm
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Old July 21st 03, 07:26 PM
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Reg, G4FGQ wrote:
"All antenna "systems" are resonant because they present a resistive
load to the transmitter. QED."

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But...is an antenna "system" (undefined) the same as an antenna?

Methinks an antenna is just one part of an antenna "system" and that it doesn't
need to be resonant.

73 de Jack, K9CUN

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Old July 21st 03, 08:25 PM
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JDer8745 wrote:

Reg, G4FGQ wrote:
"All antenna "systems" are resonant because they present a resistive
load to the transmitter. QED."

===========================

But...is an antenna "system" (undefined) the same as an antenna?

[SNIP] NOPE!!


Methinks an antenna is just one part of an antenna "system" and that it doesn't
need to be resonant.

73 de Jack, K9CUN




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