W5DXP wrote:

They say that reflected traveling waves disappear when steady-state is
reached. I say such a disappearing act would have to be magic.

Just hours earlier you were flinging insults at me for disputing your
claim that reflected traveling waves disappear in the steady state.

ac6xg

Jim Kelley wrote:

W5DXP wrote:
They say that reflected traveling waves disappear when steady-state is
reached. I say such a disappearing act would have to be magic.

Just hours earlier you were flinging insults at me for disputing your
claim that reflected traveling waves disappear in the steady state.

Such a bold-faced lie. I have argued loud and long with Peter (and
others) that reflected traveling waves are alive and well during the
steady-state. Peter will (hopefully) jump in and verify that fact.

Why do you give in to your compulsion to lie about what I have said?
Anyone following this discussion can observe what you are tring to
do. Why can't you just stick to the technical discussion without having
to lie? Because you want to win the argument at any ethical cost?

For the record: I think that the forward and reflected waves detected
by a Bird wattmeter are really there, transporting the energy and
momentum that all EM waves possess. You are the one who claims that
those reflected waves from a mismatched load transfer no energy and
possess no momentum. That is, unless they are going to encounter a
resistor in the future in which case, they are required to predict
the future better than you can. Do you realize that your waves are
smarter than you are?

OTOH, I believe Hecht when he says: "One of the most significant
properties of the electromagnetic wave is that is transports energy
and momentum."

You seem to have chosen to dispute and attempt to discredit Hecht,
Ramo & Whinnery, the Melles-Griot web page, and HP Application Notes.
Don, good luck on dueling with windmills.
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp



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W5DXP wrote:

Jim Kelley wrote:

W5DXP wrote:
They say that reflected traveling waves disappear when steady-state is
reached. I say such a disappearing act would have to be magic.

Just hours earlier you were flinging insults at me for disputing your
claim that reflected traveling waves disappear in the steady state.

Such a bold-faced lie. I have argued loud and long with Peter (and
others) that reflected traveling waves are alive and well during the
steady-state. Peter will (hopefully) jump in and verify that fact.

You're arguing with me about it right now in another thread! :-)

Don, good luck on dueling with windmills.

I'm not trying to sell something, Bill, you are. You're trying to get
publications to buy into your energy reversal theory. You'll need lots
of luck with that.

73, ac6xg

Jim Kelley wrote:

W5DXP wrote:
Such a bold-faced lie. I have argued loud and long with Peter (and
others) that reflected traveling waves are alive and well during the
steady-state. Peter will (hopefully) jump in and verify that fact.

You're arguing with me about it right now in another thread! :-)

The statement, "Reflected traveling waves disappear in the steady state",
means to me that the set of reflected traveling waves is null in the
steady-state - which is a statement that I never made.

In a system with a mismatched load, reflected traveling waves always
exist and I have NEVER said otherwise.

Semantic tricks and traps never prove anything. They just obfuscate.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp



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