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wrote in message ups.com... Is it bad to leave a charger hooked up to the battery permanently. Mine is a 12/2 with automatic operation. Geeeeez just jump in AND DO SOMETHING!!! Get your feet wet, you going to spend the rest of your life worrying about what might happen? Take the proper precautions and get with it. Try to ENJOY the hobby!!!!! |
This is not to say that Optima or Cyclon are bad battteries. It's to say that ham radio backup is not what they're designed for. Both will make a really sweet home UPS system, and there are some obvious advantages to a sealed design, not the least being satisfying any spousal concerns over damage to "her" carpet, etc. But you'll get more bang for your buck with a battery designed to deliver more amp-hours over a longer period. Ok, so what would you reccomend for a battery that sits indoors (but in a battery box if need be) and would be on float most of the time, with deep discharge at say C/10 or C/20-ish rates? |
"Dave VanHorn" wrote in message ... This is not to say that Optima or Cyclon are bad battteries. It's to say that ham radio backup is not what they're designed for. Both will make a really sweet home UPS system, and there are some obvious advantages to a sealed design, not the least being satisfying any spousal concerns over damage to "her" carpet, etc. But you'll get more bang for your buck with a battery designed to deliver more amp-hours over a longer period. Ok, so what would you reccomend for a battery that sits indoors (but in a battery box if need be) and would be on float most of the time, with deep discharge at say C/10 or C/20-ish rates? A sealed lead acid battery. Like in airplanes. 73 H. |
"Jim Higgins" wrote "Jack Painter" wrote: "Jim Higgins" wrote I notice an earlier "expert" recommended against charging sealed cells indoors. Hogwash! That's exactly one of the reasons sealed cells like the Cyclons were developed. The other was to eliminate the high labor expense - not to mention hassle - of frequent checks and water additions. I never said I was an "expert", I only described my own safe use of a 12v deep cell marine battery indoors. But I notice your setup: I'm sitting here looking at my own setup using a standard auto starting battery - cheap non-sealed Walmart special - Does NOT include a sealed battery, many of which are just cheap junk that could easily blow up with too much charge, and giving general advice to someone not knowledgeable about batteries, would be don't charge them indoors. That stands as good advice until you can demonstrate otherwise, and accept the responsibility for accidents resulting from misuse of batteries or charging equipment. Jack Painter Virginia Beach, Virginia Jack, you basically don't know enough about what you're talking about to be giving advice - especially since you now want to play the safety card. If you're really concerned with safety, then anecdotal advice based on limited personal experience is NOT the way to go. I suggest you heed your own advice regarding accepting responsibility. OK Jim, I'll accept you were an expert in the battery field, and your advice is appreciated. How about just quoting some of your manufacturer-recommendations for safe battery charging? You know, the kind that are in large, bold print, usually in red ink, in both the battery and charger instructions? "Cautions" and "Warnings", listing various types of personal injury, or death, that can result from misuse or failure to follow instructions. Unfortunately, these warnings don't travel around with used batteries and used chargers that sit in someone's garage for decades. Jack Painter Virginia Beach, Virginia |
A sealed lead acid battery. Like in airplanes. I suspect that having the word "aircraft" on the case will cost me dearly. What would that equate to in terms of something I might find at battery masters, or the inexpensive section of batteries plus? |
"Dave VanHorn" wrote in message ... A sealed lead acid battery. Like in airplanes. I suspect that having the word "aircraft" on the case will cost me dearly. What would that equate to in terms of something I might find at battery masters, or the inexpensive section of batteries plus? I think a car stereo store But the same technology is available without FAA approval ;^) |
Dave VanHorn wrote:
A sealed lead acid battery. Like in airplanes. I suspect that having the word "aircraft" on the case will cost me dearly. What would that equate to in terms of something I might find at battery masters, or the inexpensive section of batteries plus? I would never use an aircraft battery for anything other than in an aircraft. For weight savings aircraft everything is made as light as possible consistent with safety and operation. Light weight and battery capacity are completely at odds with each other. Dave WD9BDZ |
"David G. Nagel" wrote in message ... Dave VanHorn wrote: A sealed lead acid battery. Like in airplanes. I suspect that having the word "aircraft" on the case will cost me dearly. What would that equate to in terms of something I might find at battery masters, or the inexpensive section of batteries plus? I would never use an aircraft battery for anything other than in an aircraft. For weight savings aircraft everything is made as light as possible consistent with safety and operation. Light weight and battery capacity are completely at odds with each other. Dave WD9BDZ The aircraft sealed lead acids and the ones at the car stereo store are almost identical. My point on a sealed battery has to do with hydrogen gas in a closed space. H. NQ5H (And a pilot since '67) |
"Jim Higgins" wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:22:12 -0600, in , "H. Adam Stevens, NQ5H" wrote: "David G. Nagel" wrote in message ... Dave VanHorn wrote: A sealed lead acid battery. Like in airplanes. I suspect that having the word "aircraft" on the case will cost me dearly. What would that equate to in terms of something I might find at battery masters, or the inexpensive section of batteries plus? I would never use an aircraft battery for anything other than in an aircraft. For weight savings aircraft everything is made as light as possible consistent with safety and operation. Light weight and battery capacity are completely at odds with each other. Dave WD9BDZ The aircraft sealed lead acids and the ones at the car stereo store are almost identical. My point on a sealed battery has to do with hydrogen gas in a closed space. H. NQ5H (And a pilot since '67) Sealed batteries don't produce hydrogen unless heavily overcharged, and then they produce considerably less than a flooded battery. 73 de Jim, KB3PU Precisely. If you were to store a battery array indoors you wouldn't want hydrogen venting. Or would you? ;^) (Got a match?) I went to SLA batteries in my Baron because of the greatly reduced corrosion. Aerobatic folks like 'em 'cause you can fly inverted without making a mess. 73 H. |
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